Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi everyone, I'm Laurie. I live in Dutchess County New York. I am married to Dennis, three kids - Patrick is 19 and recently moved to buffalo (to live) making him 377 miles away from us (gulp), Erinn is 17 and a senior in high school and Rhiannon is 14 and a freshman in HS. We recently adopted a retired racing greyhound, Callie, whom we adore. I turned to vegetarian slightly over a year ago. I changed my lifestyle significantly in an attempt to lose weight. So far, I have lost 70 pounds, 5 pants sizes and 3 shirt sizes. I work out at a gym 4 mornings (4:30 am) a week and I cook every night instead of take out (except for rare occasions). My family started out humoring me and has slowly seen the light! I need some new recipes though - I am starting to repeat myself in the kitchen! Oh, I;m allergic to chocolate (for the last 14 years) and wine - but I love to bake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 On 1/31/08, ljandcallieb <ljandcallieb wrote: > > Rhiannon is 14 and a freshman in HS. You and I must have been on the same wavelength 14 years ago! I had a daughter (she is deceased) who would be about to turn 14 and gave her the middle name of Rhiannon! > I turned to vegetarian slightly over a year ago. I changed my > lifestyle significantly in an attempt to lose weight. So far, I > have lost 70 pounds, 5 pants sizes and 3 shirt sizes. Wow!! Way to go!! > I need some new recipes > though - I am starting to repeat myself in the kitchen! Well, you've come to the right place. In addition to the recipes that regularly come through the list, there are wonderful archives (go to the site and click files or click files in one of the e-mails you get from the list) that are categorized and all of them (unless otherwise noted) have been tried by a list member and found to be delicious. That is one thing I love about this list: I haven't gotten a " clunker " recipe yet! There are some that I increase the spices (because when I say spice, I mean SPICE! LOL) but all have been wonderfully tasty. As for repeating one's self in the kitchen, it's been my observation that most people (no matter what sorts of foods they eat) have something like 5 to 10 recipes that they make regularly, repeating them over and over. When you've got something that really works for you, keep making it (or set the recipe card aside for a while to take a break and then come back to it.) I love to get new recipes but I also love that I have a collection of " most-favorites " that I can return to again and again. In that spirit, what is your favorite recipe? Share it with us! Glad you joined us, Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 > You and I must have been on the same wavelength 14 years ago! I had a > daughter (she is deceased) who would be about to turn 14 and gave her > the middle name of Rhiannon! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am so sorry to read this. We love the name because in Welsh mythology Rhiannon was the most beautiful of all fairy princesses. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In that spirit, what is your favorite recipe? Share it with us! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ if I am posting a recipe that I got from a cookbook or magazine am I supposed to site the source? I usually change it up a little but the recipes are not mine completely. Thanks for the welcome Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 On 1/31/08, ljandcallieb <ljandcallieb wrote: > > We love the name because in Welsh mythology Rhiannon was the > most beautiful of all fairy princesses. Half my family is Welsh and so I chose the name Gwyneth (means " fair one " ) Rhiannon (means " the silver wheel " ) Jones. My mother laughed because all our Welsh relatives have/had names like Sarah, Anne, and Mary, but I told her those may be family names but they aren't Welsh names, they were transplanted to Wales by missionaries. > if I am posting a recipe that I got from a cookbook or magazine am I supposed to site the > source? I usually change it up a little but the recipes are not mine completely. What I usually do for that (and what I've seen others doing) is to say where I got the original recipe and mention that I've changed it. If you can't remember where you got the recipe, it's okay. I think the majority of recipes are borrowed and changed or otherwise inspired by other recipes. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 , " ljandcallieb " <ljandcallieb wrote: > > I work > out at a gym 4 mornings (4:30 am) a week and I cook every night instead of take out (except > for rare occasions). Wow, you impress me with your weight loss...and your discipline...4:30 in the morning...holy soy! that's early. As a new vegan myself, is there some plant based food or supplement that helps with focus and other AD/HD symptoms? I have heard from a therapist at the Univ of Utah that Fish Oil 8,000 mgs per day (four times per day dosing) helped with ADHD problems, which is a pretty remarkable statistic if it means an alternative to medications...but now that I am vegan, I am not sure what to do about Fish Oil supplements now. Is there a comparable substitute? Thanks, Diane My family started out humoring me and has slowly seen the light! I need some new recipes > though - I am starting to repeat myself in the kitchen! > Oh, I;m allergic to chocolate (for the last 14 years) and wine - but I love to bake! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 , " cree8 " <pagespals wrote: > Wow, you impress me with your weight loss...and your discipline...4:30 > in the morning...holy soy! that's early. As a new vegan myself, is > there some plant based food or supplement that helps with focus and > other AD/HD symptoms? > > Sorry, that was such a bad transition....I meant, I can't get up in the morning...so thats where that thought of the link between what you eat and attention problems....thats what I meant by that. I admire you being able to get up in the morning, and I have noticed that eating vegetarian has added to a sense of wholeness and wellness that has enhanced my sleeping. Goodnight, Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 On 2/1/08, cree8 <pagespals wrote: > > As a new vegan myself, is > there some plant based food or supplement that helps with focus and > other AD/HD symptoms? I have heard from a therapist at the Univ of > Utah that Fish Oil 8,000 mgs per day (four times per day dosing) helped > with ADHD problems, which is a pretty remarkable statistic if it means > an alternative to medications...but now that I am vegan, I am not sure > what to do about Fish Oil supplements now. Is there a comparable > substitute? Hi, Diane, and welcome to the group! It depends on what element of the fish oil is working on the AD/HD symptoms. If it's the omega-3 fatty acids, try flax seed oil. It comes in capsules (which are usually not vegetarian because they are made from gelatin) or bottles of oil (which you must store in the refrigerator to protect it from going rancid.) The " usual dose " of flax seed oil is one tablespoon per day. Some people like the flavor and others have to hide it in a smoothie. Hope this is helpful! If it's not the omega-3 in fish oil that is the key, let me know what is and I'll see if I can find you a replacement for that. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 > It depends on what element of the fish oil is > working on the AD/HD > symptoms. If it's the omega-3 fatty acids, try > flax seed oil. It comes > in capsules (which are usually not vegetarian > because they are made > from gelatin) or bottles of oil (which you must > store in the > refrigerator to protect it from going rancid.) > The " usual dose " of > flax seed oil is one tablespoon per day. Some > people like the flavor > and others have to hide it in a smoothie. Alternately, you can use ground flax seed (flax meal) - which also must be kept in the refrigerator. You can buy it ground or, more reasonable, grind it yourself in a coffee grinder - enough for a few days at a time. Keeps fresher this way (But return it all to the fridge nevertheless.) The 'usual dose' of that is a Tbsp a day - it can be sprinkled on or mixed into your cereal in the morning - lovely flavour. Or you can add it to your smoothie - thickens it up, though, so you may need a little more liquid! (We put ours on our morning cereal - have used it for years!) Love and hugs, Pat ---- Vegetarian Spice: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 On 2/1/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > Alternately, you can use ground flax seed (flax > meal) - which also must be kept in the > refrigerator. You can buy it ground or, more > reasonable, grind it yourself in a coffee grinder > - enough for a few days at a time. Keeps fresher > this way (But return it all to the fridge > nevertheless.) The 'usual dose' of that is a Tbsp > a day - it can be sprinkled on or mixed into your > cereal in the morning - lovely flavour. Or you > can add it to your smoothie - thickens it up, > though, so you may need a little more liquid! (We > put ours on our morning cereal - have used it for > years!) Also, a tablespoon of ground flax seed and a tablespoon of water replace one egg in baked goods! Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Welcome Laurie And wow - that's a marvellous weight loss!!! Good for you! You must have been eating a VERY healthy veggie diet for that to happen, which is of course what everyone should do Okay, so you now need new recipes. Well, first I ought to remind you that this isn't a weightloss group, so you can't expect our recipes to be low cal or low fat. Many, however, are indeed suitable for losing weight - but you'll have to be the judge of that yourself, since they're not marked that way - since several of us worry about weight and health. Browse through the Files and see what you can find, and if you don't find something you like then shout out for what it is you're looking for. > We recently adopted a retired racing greyhound, > Callie, whom we adore. Good for you! The greyhound racing industry is a scandal, but thankfully there are many people like you who rescue these dogs when they come to the end of their racing careers. My two beagles send friendly arrroooooos to your Callie (these hounds like to make friends with other hounds, scent or sight). Enjoy the group - and post often Looking forward to 'chatting' with you! Best, Pat (Group Owner) ---- Vegetarian Spice: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Well, first I > ought to remind you that this isn't a weightloss > group, so you can't expect our recipes to be low > cal or low fat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you, Pat and everyone. Most vegetarian recipes aren't loaded with fat and that makes a world of difference. My weight was a result of a major lifestyle change - no more junk, only drink water (ok, coffee in the morning but that's more of a necessity), working out 4 days a week, etc... I have also gotten good at changing some of the higher fat containing foods to lower fat. I am really looking forward to finding some new things to serve here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Wow, you impress me with your weight loss...and your discipline...4:30 > in the morning...holy soy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL! the first few days were rough, after that it got easier. Now, I wake up about two minutes before the alarm goes off and have learned to get up as soon as my eyes open! I am going to have to look into the flax seed though - it sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I never can understand people's fish oil fascination. Except to say I suppose it is due to product advertising towards marketing, driven by having something to do with selling the rest of the fish after all of the other parts are used. So in the final stages of processing they squeeze the fish heads and whatever to get oil and the rest goes in cat food. We all know how the industry manages information and recovers potential loss of profit from a harvest. I don't say they do it to be hateful or immoral, but they just do it. The same way sugar cane has byproducts. And recovery is managed. The industry is freer with data about the processes when describing the use of byproducts for livestock. Yet somewhat withholding when the matter is concerning humans. http://www.fao.org/AG/Aga/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/DATA/556.htm http://tinyurl.com/27p243 To be certain there are other sources of non zoological lipids. Of course these producers will not have the advantage of a market as fisheries do. Of which, most of the catch is not winding up in fish oil products. I am sure the choicer parts are not sold as fish oil. Don't consider this an acrimonious rant. It is important to realize that with 90% + of the population normally using animal products, the information is presented to the public in a way to sell a product and make people feel good about spending their money on that product and protect their sense of human decency and retain decorum. However, the most pertinent fact may be that vegetable sources of all necessary nutrients have a true advantage in quality, not withstanding the debate of vegetable origin vs. animal origin. Since the argumentation eclipses the realisms, it becomes difficult for the real point to be made. We have generous and multiple benefits with the vegan approach. The problem here is that the fish are not speaking up and the vegetables are keeping quiet. Flaxseed http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Information/Herbal/Research/flax.htm http://tinyurl.com/388zmn Hempseed http://www.manitobaharvest.com/nutrition/index.asp?itemID=74 http://tinyurl.com/363w8n Thinfat http://www.fitnessmountain.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=2598 http://tinyurl.com/3y5kzk Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add that oil is a great holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). If you need to prove this, just sauté some good spicy hot peppers on the stovetop in some olive oil. When the coughing starts, the peppers and oil have been compounded and are ready to be incorporated in the recipe. I'm sure those of you who eat hot peppers know how this works. Spring isn't that far off and peppers are short-season crops. I made a few Indian chats using Black salt, or Kala Namak in late autumn and had some extra peppers which got that treatment. The chat had used raw ones. So I cooked a handful for fun. I think they get hotter in oil when they are cooked a little though. I wheezed so much I laughed till I cried. The fumes filled the whole kitchen. The rest I toss in an open container in the refrigerator and they dry well for later. I grind these in a coffee grinder for various uses. My hobby is to collect exotic spice and foods. I like to cook with things like real red yeast rice which is a salty pungent red shred which does not look or taste like rice. I buy a one pound jar for $1.99 from an Asian store. Also available is fermented white rice. At the same store I get my dorian fruits, which are 99 cents per pound, which adds up with these big and strange fruits. I actually enjoy strong herbs like asafoetida herb and fresh rue. Spice and fruits were very coveted until not so long ago in time. Then speedy transportation made it possible to overlook them as common. Similar to books which were also rare as well as was literacy. Fortunately, those who value such things can easily obtain and enjoy them, although they exist without much fanfare, it is truly a marvel to the initiated. Much as is the internet for research and sharing of good things. Not only does spice taste good and provide health benefits it helps me eat less calories by making the food taste so good that I am satisfied more quickly. That is why I enjoy both the spice and slimming list. I think they have a lot in common and you do a great job Pat! Both are very positive list. I think you are a very good host and I like how you make people feel comfortable. , Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > > It depends on what element of the fish oil is > > working on the AD/HD > > symptoms. If it's the omega-3 fatty acids, try > > flax seed oil. It comes > > in capsules (which are usually not vegetarian > > because they are made > > from gelatin) or bottles of oil (which you must > > store in the > > refrigerator to protect it from going rancid.) > > The " usual dose " of > > flax seed oil is one tablespoon per day. Some > > people like the flavor > > and others have to hide it in a smoothie. > > Alternately, you can use ground flax seed (flax > meal) - which also must be kept in the > refrigerator. You can buy it ground or, more > reasonable, grind it yourself in a coffee grinder > - enough for a few days at a time. Keeps fresher > this way (But return it all to the fridge > nevertheless.) The 'usual dose' of that is a Tbsp > a day - it can be sprinkled on or mixed into your > cereal in the morning - lovely flavour. Or you > can add it to your smoothie - thickens it up, > though, so you may need a little more liquid! (We > put ours on our morning cereal - have used it for > years!) > > Love and hugs, Pat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I to can not understand why fish oil is pushed by doctors. Has any one thought about how that oil is placed in thoses capusules? Flax iol for me is the best choice not only am I not eating dead processed fish gunk, flax it is so healthly and does not give you fish burps.( my grandma takes it). Vida you have brought up a great and interesting topic. I look forward to reading more of your post. Vida Stevens <vida wrote: I never can understand people's fish oil fascination. Except to say I suppose it is due to product advertising towards marketing, driven by having something to do with selling the rest of the fish after all of the other parts are used. So in the final stages of processing they squeeze the fish heads and whatever to get oil and the rest goes in cat food. We all know how the industry manages information and recovers potential loss of profit from a harvest. I don't say they do it to be hateful or immoral, but they just do it. The same way sugar cane has byproducts. And recovery is managed. The industry is freer with data about the processes when describing the use of byproducts for livestock. Yet somewhat withholding when the matter is concerning humans. http://www.fao.org/AG/Aga/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/DATA/556.htm http://tinyurl.com/27p243 To be certain there are other sources of non zoological lipids. Of course these producers will not have the advantage of a market as fisheries do. Of which, most of the catch is not winding up in fish oil products. I am sure the choicer parts are not sold as fish oil. Don't consider this an acrimonious rant. It is important to realize that with 90% + of the population normally using animal products, the information is presented to the public in a way to sell a product and make people feel good about spending their money on that product and protect their sense of human decency and retain decorum. However, the most pertinent fact may be that vegetable sources of all necessary nutrients have a true advantage in quality, not withstanding the debate of vegetable origin vs. animal origin. Since the argumentation eclipses the realisms, it becomes difficult for the real point to be made. We have generous and multiple benefits with the vegan approach. The problem here is that the fish are not speaking up and the vegetables are keeping quiet. Flaxseed http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Information/Herbal/Research/flax.htm http://tinyurl.com/388zmn Hempseed http://www.manitobaharvest.com/nutrition/index.asp?itemID=74 http://tinyurl.com/363w8n Thinfat http://www.fitnessmountain.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=2598 http://tinyurl.com/3y5kzk Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add that oil is a great holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). If you need to prove this, just sauté some good spicy hot peppers on the stovetop in some olive oil. When the coughing starts, the peppers and oil have been compounded and are ready to be incorporated in the recipe. I'm sure those of you who eat hot peppers know how this works. Spring isn't that far off and peppers are short-season crops. I made a few Indian chats using Black salt, or Kala Namak in late autumn and had some extra peppers which got that treatment. The chat had used raw ones. So I cooked a handful for fun. I think they get hotter in oil when they are cooked a little though. I wheezed so much I laughed till I cried. The fumes filled the whole kitchen. The rest I toss in an open container in the refrigerator and they dry well for later. I grind these in a coffee grinder for various uses. My hobby is to collect exotic spice and foods. I like to cook with things like real red yeast rice which is a salty pungent red shred which does not look or taste like rice. I buy a one pound jar for $1.99 from an Asian store. Also available is fermented white rice. At the same store I get my dorian fruits, which are 99 cents per pound, which adds up with these big and strange fruits. I actually enjoy strong herbs like asafoetida herb and fresh rue. Spice and fruits were very coveted until not so long ago in time. Then speedy transportation made it possible to overlook them as common. Similar to books which were also rare as well as was literacy. Fortunately, those who value such things can easily obtain and enjoy them, although they exist without much fanfare, it is truly a marvel to the initiated. Much as is the internet for research and sharing of good things. Not only does spice taste good and provide health benefits it helps me eat less calories by making the food taste so good that I am satisfied more quickly. That is why I enjoy both the spice and slimming list. I think they have a lot in common and you do a great job Pat! Both are very positive list. I think you are a very good host and I like how you make people feel comfortable. , Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > > It depends on what element of the fish oil is > > working on the AD/HD > > symptoms. If it's the omega-3 fatty acids, try > > flax seed oil. It comes > > in capsules (which are usually not vegetarian > > because they are made > > from gelatin) or bottles of oil (which you must > > store in the > > refrigerator to protect it from going rancid.) > > The " usual dose " of > > flax seed oil is one tablespoon per day. Some > > people like the flavor > > and others have to hide it in a smoothie. > > Alternately, you can use ground flax seed (flax > meal) - which also must be kept in the > refrigerator. You can buy it ground or, more > reasonable, grind it yourself in a coffee grinder > - enough for a few days at a time. Keeps fresher > this way (But return it all to the fridge > nevertheless.) The 'usual dose' of that is a Tbsp > a day - it can be sprinkled on or mixed into your > cereal in the morning - lovely flavour. Or you > can add it to your smoothie - thickens it up, > though, so you may need a little more liquid! (We > put ours on our morning cereal - have used it for > years!) > > Love and hugs, Pat > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 , " Vida Stevens " <vida wrote: > >> Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add that oil is a great > holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). I appreciate your indulgence in helping a new vegan figure these things out (about the fish oil and substitutions)and your gentle reminder to me to get on topic! It can all be overwhelming at first, and cooking with different oils and spices is a new concept for me. I can't get over all the different flavors that are opening up to me now that I have made this transition. Your information re: plant vs animal oils/lipids was very well thought out and articulated. Its amazing how the marketing machine can literally imbed itself in the minds of an entire culture to where hype is considered fact, and no one questions what is omitted...like the vegetation's voice...Thank you for your comments. Regarding spices, sesame seed - What are the benefits of buying whole unhulled seed vs hulled seed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 On 2/2/08, Robin Chaloune <rchaloune wrote: > > I to can not understand why fish oil is pushed by doctors. When my doctor told me to take fish oil, I asked if I could substitute flax oil. She said that was fine and that she automatically tells people fish oil because more people are already aware that it exists so she doesn't get resistance from patients over " strange " food and that fish oil capsules were cheaper than flax oil capsules (I got my flax oil in a sale so it was 1/4 the cost of fish oil) and she was trying to save patients some money. > Has any one thought about how that oil is placed in thoses capusules? The capsules themselves are not good for you and also not vegetarian (with some minor exceptions which are noted on the bottle.) By the way, for those of you who are lacto-vegetarians, I just learned yesterday that many commercial ice creams are not vegetarian. They have cow parts in them. If you eat ice cream, you might want to look into the finer details of the ingredients and choose a brand that doesn't put cow intestines in. Just a little " heads up. " > Flax iol for me is the best choice not only am I not eating dead > processed fish gunk, flax it is so healthly and does not give you > fish burps.( my grandma takes it). I've had flax burps. They are icky, but couldn't possibly be as icky as fish burps. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 > I never can understand people's fish oil > fascination. Except to say I > suppose it is due to product advertising > towards marketing, driven by > having something to do with selling the rest of > the fish after all of > the other parts are used. I think you have probably put your finger on it, and your parallel example with the sugar cane byproducts is apposite - and startling. (Learn something every day, I do!) > vegetable sources of all > necessary nutrients have a true advantage in > quality . . .We have generous and > multiple benefits with > the vegan approach. Indeed. So why do people resist it? Just advertising? Even vegetarians and vegans will take/use animal-derived vitamins and minerals and OTC drugs if a medical 'necessity' arises - even though similar or better benefits can be obtained by using plant-based products - or none at all (as is so often the case). > The problem here is that > the fish are not > speaking up and the vegetables are keeping > quiet. Lovely! Mind you, the fish are 'speaking up' - so to speak (hmmm) - by their increased silence as their numbers dwindle. You'd think we'd all catch on that not only are fish products and fish oil unnecessary for humans but are also, in a selfish way of thinking, dangerous to continued human life on this planet - and right now we have no other to which to migrate and destroy with our greed. Thanks for your links on the various oils! Good info. > Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add > that oil is a great > holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). Yup, it is. I don't use it as a rule, but I have to admit it all tastes better if you use a smidgin of oil > My hobby is to collect exotic spice and foods. Lovely! And I like what you say here: > Not only does spice taste good and provide > health benefits it helps > me eat less calories by making the food taste > so good that I am > satisfied more quickly. That's true. Also, loving spices in a multitude of cuisines gives a variety to our food that it might not normally have. For those who like to eat bland food, well, that's up to them. But my joy in spicy foods is two-fold: the flavour and variety (as stated) added to almost any dish; the opportunity to experiment with other cuisines, many of which have a very long tradition of vegetarianism and/or veganism. > That is why I enjoy both the spice and slimming > list. I think they > have a lot in common and you do a great job > Pat! Both are very > positive list. I think you are a very good host > and I like how you > make people feel comfortable. *blush* Awwww! *hug* Nice to have satisfied customers! Now please please please, after such a long and informative post as this last one, please please please don't fade away. Okay? Love and hugs, Pat ---- Vegetarian Spice: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Just sharing... Here in the Philippines, we have " extra virgin coconut oil " that is already available in the market. Since coconuts are one of the abundant trees here, we were able to use its beneficial properties. There are those that come in capsule and in bottled packaging. It is has been proven already by scientists and doctors here in the Philippines that it can even stop the continuous spread of cancer in the body and good slimming effects of the body. The oil is now being developed for different uses for different needs. I personally use it in many ways, I add it to my morning coffee, as flavoring in many of my salad dressings, for aesthetic purposes and even use it for cooking. A good alternative for health conscious people. I just don't know if they are available in your supermarkets though? Carlo On Feb 3, 2008 10:16 PM, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > I never can understand people's fish oil > > fascination. Except to say I > > suppose it is due to product advertising > > towards marketing, driven by > > having something to do with selling the rest of > > the fish after all of > > the other parts are used. > > I think you have probably put your finger on it, > and your parallel example with the sugar cane > byproducts is apposite - and startling. (Learn > something every day, I do!) > > > > vegetable sources of all > > necessary nutrients have a true advantage in > > quality . . .We have generous and > > multiple benefits with > > the vegan approach. > > Indeed. So why do people resist it? Just > advertising? Even vegetarians and vegans will > take/use animal-derived vitamins and minerals and > OTC drugs if a medical 'necessity' arises - even > though similar or better benefits can be obtained > by using plant-based products - or none at all > (as is so often the case). > > > The problem here is that > > the fish are not > > speaking up and the vegetables are keeping > > quiet. > > Lovely! Mind you, the fish are 'speaking up' - so > to speak (hmmm) - by their increased silence as > their numbers dwindle. You'd think we'd all catch > on that not only are fish products and fish oil > unnecessary for humans but are also, in a selfish > way of thinking, dangerous to continued human > life on this planet - and right now we have no > other to which to migrate and destroy with our > greed. > > Thanks for your links on the various oils! Good > info. > > > Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add > > that oil is a great > > holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). > > Yup, it is. I don't use it as a rule, but I have > to admit it all tastes better if you use a > smidgin of oil > > > My hobby is to collect exotic spice and foods. > > Lovely! And I like what you say here: > > > Not only does spice taste good and provide > > health benefits it helps > > me eat less calories by making the food taste > > so good that I am > > satisfied more quickly. > > That's true. Also, loving spices in a multitude > of cuisines gives a variety to our food that it > might not normally have. For those who like to > eat bland food, well, that's up to them. But my > joy in spicy foods is two-fold: the flavour and > variety (as stated) added to almost any dish; the > opportunity to experiment with other cuisines, > many of which have a very long tradition of > vegetarianism and/or veganism. > > > That is why I enjoy both the spice and slimming > > list. I think they > > have a lot in common and you do a great job > > Pat! Both are very > > positive list. I think you are a very good host > > and I like how you > > make people feel comfortable. > > *blush* Awwww! *hug* Nice to have satisfied > customers! Now please please please, after such a > long and informative post as this last one, > please please please don't fade away. Okay? > > Love and hugs, Pat > > ---- > Vegetarian Spice: > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com > Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld > Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming > Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and > are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) > > ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > -- " work hard, party har! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 On 2/4/08, Carlo Oliveros <oliveros.carlo wrote: > > Here in the Philippines, we have " extra virgin coconut oil " that is already > available in the market. Since coconuts are one of the abundant trees here, > we were able to use its beneficial properties. There are those that come in > capsule and in bottled packaging. It is has been proven already by > scientists and doctors here in the Philippines that it can even stop the > continuous spread of cancer in the body and good slimming effects of the > body. Hi, Carlo! Here in the States, coconut oil is controversial. Some people swear by it, saying the things you say about its great health benefits, while others say it is as dangerous to eat as meat (because it is high in saturated fat.) I have not seen coconut oil products in supermarkets, but I have seen them available online for mailorder. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes it is in Middle Eastern Stores and I do use it. Brand name, Parachute coconut oil. It is a very good brand with good processing. It is I think a virgin oil even though they don't say that and the best thing is that the price is low. Around six dollars for a litre. The reason is that they are an old company producing oil prior to the hype. Plus where I buy it the prices on everything are lower than health food stores. http://www.maricoindia.com/parachute.htm Same thing with my authentic food source red yeast rice. It is amazing for food use. It was not for any purpose like the medical use today. It may work better for that than the pills because it is real unprocessed red yeast rice, I don't know. It is in a plastic jar, from China, nothing taste like it. I use it for soups or baked tofu. Stir fry's. It is a bright color red, pungent and salty. At that same Asian store I also buy a fermented rice product which is white and has a sweetly spirituous flavor. Great to cook with also. They say it can be eaten without cooking from the jar. I will have to try that sometime on a salad when I have just opened the jar. I also use Mimi Red Palm oil bought from the Middle Eastern store. Both are the so-called behemoth saturated fats of misfortune. But, neither have any relation to animal fat which is to my knowledge, never been a differential in study or research. But there is a difference. This is not the brand that I buy but it is a good site for info. http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/natural_palm_oil.htm? gclid=CKW76vrGrZECFQT-lgoduieqfw http://tinyurl.com/2babds Both of these oils will stay at room temperature for a long time and not change state (because they have no double bonds and have all the hydrogen that they can hold onto). Whatever that " really " means. I'm not a Linus Carl Pauling (Einstein joke). But they have done very well in my hot kitchen where there is no A/C during the summer time. They don't turn rancid or spoil for many months or more. During the cold months, like now they get hard and I have to make them liquid. I keep some red palm oil mixed with olive oil so it will not get hard. , " Carlo Oliveros " <oliveros.carlo wrote: > > Just sharing... > > Here in the Philippines, we have " extra virgin coconut oil " that is already > available in the market. Since coconuts are one of the abundant trees here, > we were able to use its beneficial properties. There are those that come in > capsule and in bottled packaging. It is has been proven already by > scientists and doctors here in the Philippines that it can even stop the > continuous spread of cancer in the body and good slimming effects of the > body. The oil is now being developed for different uses for different needs. > I personally use it in many ways, I add it to my morning coffee, as > flavoring in many of my salad dressings, for aesthetic purposes and even use > it for cooking. A good alternative for health conscious people. I just don't > know if they are available in your supermarkets though? > > Carlo > > On Feb 3, 2008 10:16 PM, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > > > > I never can understand people's fish oil > > > fascination. Except to say I > > > suppose it is due to product advertising > > > towards marketing, driven by > > > having something to do with selling the rest of > > > the fish after all of > > > the other parts are used. > > > > I think you have probably put your finger on it, > > and your parallel example with the sugar cane > > byproducts is apposite - and startling. (Learn > > something every day, I do!) > > > > > > > vegetable sources of all > > > necessary nutrients have a true advantage in > > > quality . . .We have generous and > > > multiple benefits with > > > the vegan approach. > > > > Indeed. So why do people resist it? Just > > advertising? Even vegetarians and vegans will > > take/use animal-derived vitamins and minerals and > > OTC drugs if a medical 'necessity' arises - even > > though similar or better benefits can be obtained > > by using plant-based products - or none at all > > (as is so often the case). > > > > > The problem here is that > > > the fish are not > > > speaking up and the vegetables are keeping > > > quiet. > > > > Lovely! Mind you, the fish are 'speaking up' - so > > to speak (hmmm) - by their increased silence as > > their numbers dwindle. You'd think we'd all catch > > on that not only are fish products and fish oil > > unnecessary for humans but are also, in a selfish > > way of thinking, dangerous to continued human > > life on this planet - and right now we have no > > other to which to migrate and destroy with our > > greed. > > > > Thanks for your links on the various oils! Good > > info. > > > > > Because this is vegetarian spice! I might add > > > that oil is a great > > > holder and carrier of spice (back on topic). > > > > Yup, it is. I don't use it as a rule, but I have > > to admit it all tastes better if you use a > > smidgin of oil > > > > > My hobby is to collect exotic spice and foods. > > > > Lovely! And I like what you say here: > > > > > Not only does spice taste good and provide > > > health benefits it helps > > > me eat less calories by making the food taste > > > so good that I am > > > satisfied more quickly. > > > > That's true. Also, loving spices in a multitude > > of cuisines gives a variety to our food that it > > might not normally have. For those who like to > > eat bland food, well, that's up to them. But my > > joy in spicy foods is two-fold: the flavour and > > variety (as stated) added to almost any dish; the > > opportunity to experiment with other cuisines, > > many of which have a very long tradition of > > vegetarianism and/or veganism. > > > > > That is why I enjoy both the spice and slimming > > > list. I think they > > > have a lot in common and you do a great job > > > Pat! Both are very > > > positive list. I think you are a very good host > > > and I like how you > > > make people feel comfortable. > > > > *blush* Awwww! *hug* Nice to have satisfied > > customers! Now please please please, after such a > > long and informative post as this last one, > > please please please don't fade away. Okay? > > > > Love and hugs, Pat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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