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I have found that everyone is different as to how they react to soy products.

Myself and others in my family don't tolerate it at all. We suffer terrible

digestive problems when we eat it.

 

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I wish I had some answers for you, Cindy.

I don't. All I know is I have also read reports

both pro-soy and against soy, and my personal

conclusion is that soy [for me] is best in

moderation.

I don't drink soy milk; I don't drink any milk

really, but on my cereal I prefer almond milk,

oh and for dunking Newman's Oreos, too. *lol*

I don't eat tofu every week either... maybe once

every two weeks. I think I get enough soy from it

being in other things like commercial brand veggie

burgers and veggie dogs and stuff like that, so

I limit my eating those as well. That's just me though

and I am not a doctor or an expert on the subject.

If you are thinking you are eating/drinking a

lot of soy and suspect it might have something

to do with your extreme exhaustion, I'd suggest

you discuss it with your doctor. :)

 

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, " Cindy " <clmarti53 wrote:

 

> My sister then tells me that her dietitian friend says that soy has an

> adverse effect on the adrenal glands and can cause exhaustion and

> other bad nasty things. I know you can read studies extolling the

> almost miraculous propertys of soy and other reports telling of bad

> things it does. It depends a lot on who does the study. If any one has

> a good idea about the effect of soy on the adrenals I would really

> appreciate it. I struggle every day with extreme exhaustion but I'm

> not ready to blame it on soy, unless of course it's true.

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At 06:31 PM 6/24/2006 +0000, you wrote:

 

>I wish I had some answers for you, Cindy.

>I don't. All I know is I have also read reports

>both pro-soy and against soy, and my personal

>conclusion is that soy [for me] is best in

>moderation.

 

How it looks to me from the things I've seen is that yes, soy is good for

you, just maybe not the total miracle food the media was touting it as

before. They tend to do that with any food...hype it up way too much then

backlash. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. :) There are health

benefits I see in myself and my animals from soy consumption, but I think

part of what's important is using high-quality soy. It gets a bad rap in

pet food because animal-grade soy is usually very low quality and doused in

pesticides that are far more harsh than what is permissible in human grade

food (non-organics). Animal grade is also usually gmo while most of the soy

products one buys at grocery stores indicate that they are non-gmo right on

the package. So, for example, there is a big difference in the high-quality

soy yogurt I feed my rats vs. the junk soy they use in lab block.

I wouldn't be afraid of soy, but at the same time you don't have

to put it in every meal to see benefits and as with any food, you can

overdo it.

 

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What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy

joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine

cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If

anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with

recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing

recipes to try out!

 

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I have not tried it for this recipe, but you should be able to use

seitan (wheat meat). You can find it in various forms or you can make

it yourself.

 

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, " Julie " <jewiemt wrote:

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> What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy

> joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine

> cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If

> anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with

> recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing

> recipes to try out!

>

> Julie

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Boca. Thye make soy crumbles. I've tried it myself on sloppy

joes.www.truevegetarian

 

" critter.haven " <critter.haven wrote: I have not tried it

for this recipe, but you should be able to use

seitan (wheat meat). You can find it in various forms or you can make

it yourself.

 

tc

 

, " Julie " <jewiemt wrote:

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> What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy

> joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine

> cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If

> anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with

> recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing

> recipes to try out!

>

> Julie

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Julie,

Have you tried Quorn? It's usually in the frozen

foods section of the supermarket and is a protein

substitute made from mushrooms. I don't have a package

in front of me but I think it may be soy-free. I like

the " ground meat " format, although it comes in other

shapes as well. I used it for pasta sauces or

anything else that calls for crumbled " meat. "

Cheers,

Linda

 

 

 

 

 

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I like quorn brand products. The small bits called " tenders " are a tad dry, but

they are

good additions to soups or stews. I have not used the ground quorn; for that

sort of

analog I prefer Yves brand.

I should add that quorn is not made from mushrooms. It is really made from

fungus that

the company states is " mushroom-like " . It is good though.

-LK

 

, " Linda E. Laddin " <lelhk wrote:

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> Dear Julie,

> Have you tried Quorn? It's usually in the frozen

> foods section of the supermarket and is a protein

> substitute made from mushrooms.

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You could try bulger wheat if you are after the texture/consistency. It readily

absorbs flavours and looks a lot like textured vegetable protein (hey, I think

that would also be an option) or Yves ground round.

 

Paula

 

 

 

Julie <jewiemt

 

Friday, April 11, 2008 7:31:40 AM

soy question

 

What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy

joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine

cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If

anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with

recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks...... ..I am enjoying choosing

recipes to try out!

 

Julie

 

 

 

 

 

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> You could try bulger wheat if you are after the

> texture/consistency. It readily absorbs

> flavours and looks a lot like textured

> vegetable protein (hey, I think that would also

> be an option) or Yves ground round.

 

The original request was for something that

didn't have soy in it, I believe :) TVP and Yves

ground round both do, but seitan (as someone has

suggested) is wheat 'me*t' - no soy - plus Quorn

would work fine if eggs aren't a problem - AND as

you so sensibly add Bulger Wheat is great in all

these kinds of dishes (works great in chili sin

carne too!!!). Good idea - thanks a bunch.

 

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Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

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Hi Christine

 

It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first.

 

Jo

 

 

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Christine

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM

Re: soy question

 

 

 

Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

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Hi Christine

 

I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat.

 

BB

Peter

 

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jo.heartwork

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM

Re: Re: soy question

 

Hi Christine

 

It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first.

 

Jo

 

 

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Christine

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM

Re: soy question

 

 

 

Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

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nice--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Peter <metalscarab wrote:Peter <metalscarabRe: Re: soy question Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:36 AM

 

 

Hi Christine

 

I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat.

 

BB

Peter

 

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jo.heartwork

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM

Re: Re: soy question

 

Hi Christine

 

It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first.

 

Jo

 

 

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Christine

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM

Re: soy question

 

 

 

Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

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the weston price foundation and mercola, along with SOS, are also HUGE anti-soy people.

i keep expecting them to show up at my door with pamphlets and a bucket of raw meat.

when i can think str8 this morn, i'll add my two peso's

 

 

 

 

 

 

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jo.heartwork

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM

Re: Re: soy question

 

Hi Christine

 

It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first.

 

Jo

 

 

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Christine

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM

Re: soy question

 

 

 

Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Peter.

 

BBJo

 

 

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Daddy Cash

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:56 PM

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nice--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Peter <metalscarab > wrote:

Peter <metalscarab >Re: Re: soy question Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:36 AM

 

 

 

Hi Christine

 

I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat.

 

BB

Peter

 

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jo.heartwork

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM

Re: Re: soy question

 

Hi Christine

 

It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first.

 

Jo

 

 

-

Christine

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM

Re: soy question

 

 

 

Hello,

Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had.

I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men.

Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again,

christine

 

 

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