Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I have found that everyone is different as to how they react to soy products. Myself and others in my family don't tolerate it at all. We suffer terrible digestive problems when we eat it. Joanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I wish I had some answers for you, Cindy. I don't. All I know is I have also read reports both pro-soy and against soy, and my personal conclusion is that soy [for me] is best in moderation. I don't drink soy milk; I don't drink any milk really, but on my cereal I prefer almond milk, oh and for dunking Newman's Oreos, too. *lol* I don't eat tofu every week either... maybe once every two weeks. I think I get enough soy from it being in other things like commercial brand veggie burgers and veggie dogs and stuff like that, so I limit my eating those as well. That's just me though and I am not a doctor or an expert on the subject. If you are thinking you are eating/drinking a lot of soy and suspect it might have something to do with your extreme exhaustion, I'd suggest you discuss it with your doctor. ~ PT ~ Don't change how you look, change how you see. ~ bumper sticker ~~~*~~~*~~~> , " Cindy " <clmarti53 wrote: > My sister then tells me that her dietitian friend says that soy has an > adverse effect on the adrenal glands and can cause exhaustion and > other bad nasty things. I know you can read studies extolling the > almost miraculous propertys of soy and other reports telling of bad > things it does. It depends a lot on who does the study. If any one has > a good idea about the effect of soy on the adrenals I would really > appreciate it. I struggle every day with extreme exhaustion but I'm > not ready to blame it on soy, unless of course it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 At 06:31 PM 6/24/2006 +0000, you wrote: >I wish I had some answers for you, Cindy. >I don't. All I know is I have also read reports >both pro-soy and against soy, and my personal >conclusion is that soy [for me] is best in >moderation. How it looks to me from the things I've seen is that yes, soy is good for you, just maybe not the total miracle food the media was touting it as before. They tend to do that with any food...hype it up way too much then backlash. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. There are health benefits I see in myself and my animals from soy consumption, but I think part of what's important is using high-quality soy. It gets a bad rap in pet food because animal-grade soy is usually very low quality and doused in pesticides that are far more harsh than what is permissible in human grade food (non-organics). Animal grade is also usually gmo while most of the soy products one buys at grocery stores indicate that they are non-gmo right on the package. So, for example, there is a big difference in the high-quality soy yogurt I feed my rats vs. the junk soy they use in lab block. I wouldn't be afraid of soy, but at the same time you don't have to put it in every meal to see benefits and as with any food, you can overdo it. Veronica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing recipes to try out! Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I have not tried it for this recipe, but you should be able to use seitan (wheat meat). You can find it in various forms or you can make it yourself. tc , " Julie " <jewiemt wrote: > > What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy > joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine > cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If > anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with > recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing > recipes to try out! > > Julie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Boca. Thye make soy crumbles. I've tried it myself on sloppy joes.www.truevegetarian " critter.haven " <critter.haven wrote: I have not tried it for this recipe, but you should be able to use seitan (wheat meat). You can find it in various forms or you can make it yourself. tc , " Julie " <jewiemt wrote: > > What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy > joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine > cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If > anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with > recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks........I am enjoying choosing > recipes to try out! > > Julie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Dear Julie, Have you tried Quorn? It's usually in the frozen foods section of the supermarket and is a protein substitute made from mushrooms. I don't have a package in front of me but I think it may be soy-free. I like the " ground meat " format, although it comes in other shapes as well. I used it for pasta sauces or anything else that calls for crumbled " meat. " Cheers, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I like quorn brand products. The small bits called " tenders " are a tad dry, but they are good additions to soups or stews. I have not used the ground quorn; for that sort of analog I prefer Yves brand. I should add that quorn is not made from mushrooms. It is really made from fungus that the company states is " mushroom-like " . It is good though. -LK , " Linda E. Laddin " <lelhk wrote: > > Dear Julie, > Have you tried Quorn? It's usually in the frozen > foods section of the supermarket and is a protein > substitute made from mushrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 You could try bulger wheat if you are after the texture/consistency. It readily absorbs flavours and looks a lot like textured vegetable protein (hey, I think that would also be an option) or Yves ground round. Paula Julie <jewiemt Friday, April 11, 2008 7:31:40 AM soy question What would be a good substitute for soy protein like for the sloppy joe recipe? I know there is big controversy, but I had a rare uterine cancer five years ago and I am just not comfortable using it. If anyone has suggestions it would give me some other options with recipes that sound wonderful. Thanks...... ..I am enjoying choosing recipes to try out! Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 > You could try bulger wheat if you are after the > texture/consistency. It readily absorbs > flavours and looks a lot like textured > vegetable protein (hey, I think that would also > be an option) or Yves ground round. The original request was for something that didn't have soy in it, I believe TVP and Yves ground round both do, but seitan (as someone has suggested) is wheat 'me*t' - no soy - plus Quorn would work fine if eggs aren't a problem - AND as you so sensibly add Bulger Wheat is great in all these kinds of dishes (works great in chili sin carne too!!!). Good idea - thanks a bunch. Love and hugs, Pat ---- http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and others listed on http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hi Christine It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first. Jo - Christine Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM Re: soy question Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Hi Christine I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat. BB Peter - jo.heartwork Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM Re: Re: soy question Hi Christine It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first. Jo - Christine Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM Re: soy question Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 nice--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Peter <metalscarab wrote:Peter <metalscarabRe: Re: soy question Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:36 AM Hi Christine I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat. BB Peter - jo.heartwork @gro ups.com Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM Re: Re: soy question Hi Christine It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first. Jo - Christine @gro ups.com Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM Re: soy question Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 the weston price foundation and mercola, along with SOS, are also HUGE anti-soy people. i keep expecting them to show up at my door with pamphlets and a bucket of raw meat. when i can think str8 this morn, i'll add my two peso's - jo.heartwork Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM Re: Re: soy question Hi Christine It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first. Jo - Christine Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM Re: soy question Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine "Hobbes: Do you think there's a God? Calvin: Well, SOMEBODY'S out to get me." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Thanks Peter. BBJo - Daddy Cash Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:56 PM Re: Re: soy question nice--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Peter <metalscarab > wrote: Peter <metalscarab >Re: Re: soy question Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:36 AM Hi Christine I'm also in a bit of a hurry, but the basic upshot of the research is that there is an enzyme in soy which has a similar look to an enzyme which has been associated with cancer. The milk marketing board has therefore twisted this to suggest thatthe two are the same (even though they are actually quite different), and therefore soy must cause cancer - however, there is absolutely no demonstrated link between soy and cancer, and the statistics show that those who eat moderate amounts of soy instead of meat less likely to get cancer than those who eat the meat. BB Peter - jo.heartwork @gro ups.com Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22 PM Re: Re: soy question Hi Christine It's very late, and I'm just on my way to bed - this is not true - research paid for by the milk and met industries. I will try to sort out some information over the next few days - but maybe someone else will help first. Jo - Christine @gro ups.com Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:37 PM Re: soy question Hello, Another question that goes along with the milk replacement question I had. I have been reading a bit on soy milk and other soy products. I read a few different opinions on soy raising the risk of cancers in some people who have had cancer in their families. My mom had breast cancer, so I am wondering if I should stay away from lots of soy products? I also read somewhere it can raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. Has anyone else heard or read about this?thanks again, christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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