Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 This is great, Pat! Thanks for all the super info! So much handier than reading a vegan cookbook. I'll definitely be looking through the recipes you mentioned to get vegan ideas. I'm excited to be in this group! -- In , " Pat " <drpatsant wrote: > > Hello there, Erin > > I have a comment on the soy topic, but first: Welcome to our group (although I see that > you have been been made welcome by Marie, one of our moderators, while I've been away > and have been chatting with other members too. Great!) I do hope you enjoy the group. > We love to chat, and to exchange recipes and food information, menu ideas, etc., and to > solve various problems connected with the vegetarian lifestyle. And sometimes we just like > to chat! LOL We're pretty informal here, and although the group is themed towards hot and > spicy vegetarian food, we welcome recipes of all kinds (as long as they're vegetarian), so > you might like to look through our Files for those! If there's anything you can't find, just > let us know and someone probably knows a recipe for it or has an idea > > Now about soy. You recently wrote: > > > I merely > > wondered if anyone else has faced health problems since adopting the > > vegetarian diet, and what people generally link about the link between > > soy and health problems. Soy is a pretty controversial food! > > Okay, first about the controversy - that's a hot one, because so much of the research that > has been done to show that soy is 'bad' for us has been funded by and popularized by the > dairy industry and others (non-veg protein producers) - therefore much of it is pretty > suspect. Otoh, some people do have a problem with soy just as some have a problem with > other foodstuffs. And most of us do better without an overload of processed food of any > kind. We are all different, and various hereditary and cultural factors get in the way of any > usefulness in exchanging information on what does and doesn't suit each one of us - not > to mention differing medical problems and physical makeup. > > If you think you may have a problem with soy, then I'd like to make a suggestion - not a > very radical one really - that you try cutting it out of your diet for a few weeks. Substitute > beans or lentils for tofu or soy faux me*t products OR use seitan (which is from gluten) > and has a great texture. (I'd add something called 'Quorn' but that isn't vegan, and you say > you are now following a vegan diet and I can't in all conscience try to steer you away from > that.) As for dairy, you could do without the soy cheez for this short time, and use rice or > almond milk (there are others too) instead of soy milk. Then see how you feel. You may > find no difference whatsoever, then you will probably have to look elsewhere for the cause > of your malaise. But you might find it does the trick. Then you will be like quite a few > vegetarians and vegans who either don't like to use soy or just don't trust it, for whatever > reason, and can keep on without it altogether. It's just an idea. > > For myself, I use soy - but not much and not often (although I do confess to pigging out > on a new brand of vegan cheez some weeks ago LOL). A package of tofu, for example, will > almost always do three or four times for my dh and myself - and we certainly don't have > anything with soy more than a couple of times a week unless the circumstances are > unusual. Some weeks go by without using it at all, unless you count a little tamari or miso > to flavour a soup or a sauce. > > Before a very dear member reminds me of the uses of the faux me*ts I will say this in their > defence: some of them are very tasty and all of them, if liked, are a very handly product > under some circumstances: veggieburgers and soydogs at a barbecue, faux deli me*ts for > a quick luncheon sandwich or picnic fare (likewise soy cheez), and the marinated chikken > cutlets as an example of something that can be smothered in a sauce of your choice and > added to a potato and salad for a quick but pleasing meal. AND, as has been discussed > before on this group, faux me*ts are a lifesaver for stuffing into casseroles, soups and > stews (as well as the above items mentioned) for people who are in transition from an > omnivore to a vegetarian diet. It lets one feel, well, 'normal' - you know? But they are > processed, have things in them that are hard to pronounce, and shouldn't be eaten in the > same quantities that omnivores eat, er, the 'real' thing. We generally stick to tofu, as > stated, tempeh (which is a fermented Indonesian invention and is delicious), and various > kinds of miso for soups and sauces, etc., and those, as I have said, not often. > > A tip: Whenever I need a boost in energy I go mad over eating greens - all kinds of greens > - in smoothies (with bananas and berries), in soups, steamed, or raw. Works like a charm! > > Okay, I've gone on too long > > Welcome, again! Write in often and enjoy the group. > > Love and hugs, Pat (Group Owner) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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