Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Chris, Some terms: Vegan: A person who eats no meat, fish, fowl, animal byproducts, eggs, AND dairy products. Lacto Vegetarian: : A person who eats no meat, fish, fowl, animal byproducts, or eggs, but does eat dairy products. Ovo Vegetarian: A person who eats no meat, fish, fowl, animal byproducts, or dairy products, but does eat eggs. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian: A person who eats no meat, fish, fowl or animal byproducts, or products containing them. An ovo-lacto vegetarian does, however, eat eggs and dairy products. I'm more of a Ovo-Lacto myself, but due to health reasons, I try to stay away from eggs and dairy if I can. But I don't kill myself in doing so. I do substitute cow milk with soy milk and cow cheese with soy cheese or tofu. In fact, I made a wonderful Greek Salad (which calls for feta) with tofu. And tofu also helps make a wonderful faux-egg salad. For more answers to how to live without dairy go to http://www.vegansociety.com/info/info23.html. There's a cool faq on it. In the end, you need to figure what type of vegetarianism suits your lifestyle. Be realistic and ask yourself why would you remove something from your diet and not another thing. No decision is wrong...its what works for you. Hope this helps. Tara SanFrancisco, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Hi all. I haven't been able to find substitutes for feta yet either. They have a veggie cream cheese, but it seems like they haven't been able to come up with a sharp vegan cheese. Feta is my favorite & I'd love to see a substitute. Crystal At 08:42 PM 4/19/01 +0000, you wrote: >Could i buy a vegan ricotta or feta? Or am I limited to the basics swiss, >jack, and cheddar? Thanks in advance for your answers. >Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 morning i have two questions. one may not be appropriate for this list; in which case, my apologies. first, my neighbor is a vegetarian zealot. " people who eat meat are just stupid. " i, too live the lifestyle, but accept that others, for whatever their reasons, may not choose the path. anyway, she also has over 40 cats (she rescues, traps, saves, neuters and vets them all) who are fed a variety of the finest canned cat food (my four have considered moving on several occasions), roasts, chickens (they roast turkeys for the brood on thanksgiving and christmas). i guess i'm trying to understand the justification and thought, since the thread has recently been relatives and friends foisting meat foods and the responses, someone may have had to address choices for pets lately and what those choices are/were. Maybe it's me, but no one really questions me any more so i don't have to have an answer at the ready. Now the other question. My neighbor (same one) recently attended an event where a delicious tofu salad was served. she didn't get the recipe, but brought me home a doggie/human bag. it was ala tuna salad with green/red peppers, celery and cilantro. that was all i could discern before i ate it all. checked through the files and googled some, but does this recipe sound at all familiar to anyone? any suggestions? thanks. kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I'm afraid I don't have answers for you. I'm a semi-vegetarian who eats fish, dairy, meat maybe six times a year. I have never tried to influence how anyone else eats. However, I will give my opinion on inhumane treatment of animals and animal testing. she also has over 40 cats (she rescues, traps, saves, neuters and vets them all) I am so grateful there are people who have that calling. I don't quite understand her philosophy though. Unless she is a vegetarian for health reasons. My three canine little people with fur get a lamb and rice formula mainly because two have a health problem that was solved by this particular brand and formula. Sorry I couldn't be more help. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Kate Groff <katework1 wrote: Kate Groff <katework1 two questions Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:10 AM morning i have two questions. one may not be appropriate for this list; in which case, my apologies. first, my neighbor is a vegetarian zealot. " people who eat meat are just stupid. " i, too live the lifestyle, but accept that others, for whatever their reasons, may not choose the path. anyway, she also has over 40 cats (she rescues, traps, saves, neuters and vets them all) who are fed a variety of the finest canned cat food (my four have considered moving on several occasions), roasts, chickens (they roast turkeys for the brood on thanksgiving and christmas). i guess i'm trying to understand the justification and thought, since the thread has recently been relatives and friends foisting meat foods and the responses, someone may have had to address choices for pets lately and what those choices are/were. Maybe it's me, but no one really questions me any more so i don't have to have an answer at the ready. Now the other question. My neighbor (same one) recently attended an event where a delicious tofu salad was served. she didn't get the recipe, but brought me home a doggie/human bag. it was ala tuna salad with green/red peppers, celery and cilantro. that was all i could discern before i ate it all. checked through the files and googled some, but does this recipe sound at all familiar to anyone? any suggestions? thanks. kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I've been wondering what the health ramifications are on animals if they are raised vegetarian. I have been wanting a dog, but have not found any " vegetarian dog food. " We don't have eggs in the house, so I don't see meat dog food being acceptable. Any thoughts, opinions, articles, studies that people can pass on to me? I know of dogs in households in India that raise their dogs to be veg, but I don't know what to do here. -parag The two rules for success are: 1. Never tell them everything you know On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:31, Lady Jexie <jexiebee wrote: > I'm afraid I don't have answers for you. I'm a semi-vegetarian who eats > fish, dairy, meat maybe six times a year. I have never tried to influence > how anyone else eats. However, I will give my opinion on inhumane treatment > of animals and animal testing. > > she also has over 40 cats (she rescues, traps, saves, neuters and vets them > all) > > I am so grateful there are people who have that calling. I don't quite > understand her philosophy though. Unless she is a vegetarian for health > reasons. > > My three canine little people with fur get a lamb and rice formula mainly > because two have a health problem that was solved by this particular brand > and formula. > > Sorry I couldn't be more help. > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > - Benjamin Franklin > > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Kate Groff <katework1<katework1%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > Kate Groff <katework1 <katework1%40gmail.com>> > two questions > <%40> > Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:10 AM > > morning > > i have two questions. one may not be appropriate for this list; in > > which case, my apologies. > > first, my neighbor is a vegetarian zealot. " people who eat meat are > > just stupid. " i, too live the lifestyle, but accept that others, for > > whatever their reasons, may not choose the path. anyway, she also has > > over 40 cats (she rescues, traps, saves, neuters and vets them all) > > who are fed a variety of the finest canned cat food (my four have > > considered moving on several occasions), roasts, chickens (they roast > > turkeys for the brood on thanksgiving and christmas). i guess i'm > > trying to understand the justification and thought, since the thread > > has recently been relatives and friends foisting meat foods and the > > responses, someone may have had to address choices for pets lately > > and what those choices are/were. Maybe it's me, but no one really > > questions me any more so i don't have to have an answer at the ready. > > Now the other question. My neighbor (same one) recently attended an > > event where a delicious tofu salad was served. she didn't get the > > recipe, but brought me home a doggie/human bag. it was ala tuna salad > > with green/red peppers, celery and cilantro. that was all i could > > discern before i ate it all. checked through the files and googled > > some, but does this recipe sound at all familiar to anyone? any > > suggestions? > > thanks. > > kate > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 On your neighbor/cat question...I have been vegetarian for over 13 years now and have a dog and a cat. It's my understanding from the research I've done that these animals are supposed to be carnivorous. I would not subject my animals to my lifestyle just because I thought it was right, however, I do feed them the best food possible (although meat based). My husband takes care of giving them treats like turkey, etc (he's not veg). On to the " tuna " salad....2 recipes for you... " Dolphin-Friendly Mock Tuna Salad " 1 15-oz can garbanzo beans 1 stalk celery, finely chopped 1 carrot, grated (optional) 1 green onion, finely chopped 2 tsp. mayonnaise or mustard 1 tbsp sweet pickle relish 1/4 tsp. salt (optional) Mash the garbanzo beans with a fork or potato masher. Leave some chunks. Add the sliced celery, grated carrot, chopped onion, mayonnaise and relish. Add salt to taste. Serve on whole wheat bread or in pita bread with lettuce and sliced tomatoes. Makes 4 sandwiches. Chickpea Mock Tuna Salad A vegetarian " tuna " salad made with chickpeas, almonds, and seeds. Tuna fish was the very last meat that I gave up, and while this doesn't take exactly like tuna salad, it's close enough that I don't miss the real thing any more. Yield 4 servings Time 45 minutes + overnight soaking Tools sieve large bowl food processor rubber spatula plastic wrap or lid for bowl Ingredients ½ c almonds ½ c sunflower seeds ¼ c sesame seeds several c water 1 c soaked + cooked or canned chickpeas, drained and rinsed 2 T lemon juice 1 T water (can be from chickpea cooking water) 1 T soy sauce 2 t flaxseed or olive oil 1-2 t kelp powder ½ c mayonnaise 1 stalk celery, minced 1/3 c red onion, minced 2 T fresh parsley, minced Directions Rinse the almonds and seeds (a sieve or fine-holed colander is needed for the sesame seeds), place in bowl, cover with water, and let soak overnight. Rinse and drain. Place the almonds, seeds, chickpeas, lemon juice, T water, soy sauce, oil, and kelp powder in food processor. Blend until well mixed but not quite smooth, 1-2 minutes. Combine the mayonnaise, celery, onion, and parsley in the bowl, then add chickpea mixture. Cover and refrigerate for at least 30 minutes. Notes This mock tuna salad will last 2-3 days in the refrigerator. Try using this recipe for a mock tuna crêpe or a mock tuna melt. Lorraine Bryda /// Art Director Hatch Studios /// http://hatch-studios.com lbryda telephone: 682/622-9057 efax: 810/821-7760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dogs can be vegetarian just as long as they get their essential vitamins and fats. Cats are beholden to fish and or meat. check out a holistic pet guide --- On Fri, 8/15/08, lorraine bryda <lbryda wrote: > lorraine bryda <lbryda > Re:two questions > > Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:28 AM > On your neighbor/cat question...I have been vegetarian for > over 13 > years now and have a dog and a cat. It's my > understanding from the > research I've done that these animals are supposed to > be carnivorous. > I would not subject my animals to my lifestyle just because > I thought > it was right, however, I do feed them the best food > possible (although > meat based). My husband takes care of giving them treats > like turkey, > etc (he's not veg). > > On to the " tuna " salad....2 recipes for you... > > " Dolphin-Friendly Mock Tuna Salad " > > 1 15-oz can garbanzo beans > 1 stalk celery, finely chopped > 1 carrot, grated (optional) > 1 green onion, finely chopped > 2 tsp. mayonnaise or mustard > 1 tbsp sweet pickle relish > 1/4 tsp. salt (optional) > Mash the garbanzo beans with a fork or potato masher. > Leave some chunks. > Add the sliced celery, grated carrot, chopped onion, > mayonnaise and > relish. > Add salt to taste. > Serve on whole wheat bread or in pita bread with lettuce > and sliced > tomatoes. > > Makes 4 sandwiches. > > > Chickpea Mock Tuna Salad > > A vegetarian " tuna " salad made with chickpeas, > almonds, and seeds. > Tuna fish was the very last meat that I gave up, and while > this > doesn't take exactly like tuna salad, it's close > enough that I don't > miss the real thing any more. > > Yield 4 servings > Time 45 minutes + overnight soaking > Tools sieve > large bowl > food processor > rubber spatula > plastic wrap or lid for bowl > > Ingredients ½ c almonds > ½ c sunflower seeds > ¼ c sesame seeds > several c water > 1 c soaked + cooked or canned chickpeas, drained and rinsed > 2 T lemon juice > 1 T water (can be from chickpea cooking water) > 1 T soy sauce > 2 t flaxseed or olive oil > 1-2 t kelp powder > ½ c mayonnaise > 1 stalk celery, minced > 1/3 c red onion, minced > 2 T fresh parsley, minced > > Directions Rinse the almonds and seeds (a sieve or > fine-holed colander > is needed for the sesame seeds), place in bowl, cover with > water, and > let soak overnight. Rinse and drain. > Place the almonds, seeds, chickpeas, lemon juice, T water, > soy sauce, > oil, and kelp powder in food processor. Blend until well > mixed but not > quite smooth, 1-2 minutes. > > Combine the mayonnaise, celery, onion, and parsley in the > bowl, then > add chickpea mixture. Cover and refrigerate for at least 30 > minutes. > > Notes This mock tuna salad will last 2-3 days in the > refrigerator. > Try using this recipe for a mock tuna crêpe or a mock tuna > melt. > > > > Lorraine Bryda /// Art Director > Hatch Studios /// http://hatch-studios.com > > lbryda > telephone: 682/622-9057 > efax: 810/821-7760 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Thank you for sharing these recipes. I'm going to try them. Jan Click on the " Fund Food for Animals " button at The Animal Rescue Site and give food to an animal living in a shelter or sanctuary -- at no cost to you. http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/tpc/ERA_091907_ARS lorraine bryda <lbryda Friday, August 15, 2008 10:28:41 AM Re:two questions On your neighbor/cat question...I have been vegetarian for over 13 years now and have a dog and a cat. It's my understanding from the research I've done that these animals are supposed to be carnivorous. I would not subject my animals to my lifestyle just because I thought it was right, however, I do feed them the best food possible (although meat based). My husband takes care of giving them treats like turkey, etc (he's not veg). On to the " tuna " salad....2 recipes for you... " Dolphin-Friendly Mock Tuna Salad " 1 15-oz can garbanzo beans 1 stalk celery, finely chopped 1 carrot, grated (optional) 1 green onion, finely chopped 2 tsp. mayonnaise or mustard 1 tbsp sweet pickle relish 1/4 tsp. salt (optional) Mash the garbanzo beans with a fork or potato masher. Leave some chunks. Add the sliced celery, grated carrot, chopped onion, mayonnaise and relish. Add salt to taste. Serve on whole wheat bread or in pita bread with lettuce and sliced tomatoes. Makes 4 sandwiches. Chickpea Mock Tuna Salad A vegetarian " tuna " salad made with chickpeas, almonds, and seeds. Tuna fish was the very last meat that I gave up, and while this doesn't take exactly like tuna salad, it's close enough that I don't miss the real thing any more. Yield 4 servings Time 45 minutes + overnight soaking Tools sieve large bowl food processor rubber spatula plastic wrap or lid for bowl Ingredients ½ c almonds ½ c sunflower seeds ¼ c sesame seeds several c water 1 c soaked + cooked or canned chickpeas, drained and rinsed 2 T lemon juice 1 T water (can be from chickpea cooking water) 1 T soy sauce 2 t flaxseed or olive oil 1-2 t kelp powder ½ c mayonnaise 1 stalk celery, minced 1/3 c red onion, minced 2 T fresh parsley, minced Directions Rinse the almonds and seeds (a sieve or fine-holed colander is needed for the sesame seeds), place in bowl, cover with water, and let soak overnight. Rinse and drain. Place the almonds, seeds, chickpeas, lemon juice, T water, soy sauce, oil, and kelp powder in food processor. Blend until well mixed but not quite smooth, 1-2 minutes. Combine the mayonnaise, celery, onion, and parsley in the bowl, then add chickpea mixture. Cover and refrigerate for at least 30 minutes. Notes This mock tuna salad will last 2-3 days in the refrigerator. Try using this recipe for a mock tuna crêpe or a mock tuna melt. Lorraine Bryda /// Art Director Hatch Studios /// http://hatch- studios.com lbryda@hatch- studios.com telephone: 682/622-9057 efax: 810/821-7760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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