Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing weight?

[Guest guest]

I am vegetarian... and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas besides

more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt job, 5

college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

[Guest guest]

20 over here. Too much pasta, rice, bread and other bad carbs.  I do beans and

tofu andother good carbs too.  vegan too, what gives?

 

 

 

 

 

rchaloune <rchaloune

 

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:30:11 PM

Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing weight?

 

 

I am vegetarian.. . and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas besides

more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt job, 5

college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Be sure your eating three times a day with no snacking only choosing

fruits vegetables and grains. This will help reset your body's

digestion. I fell into eating a lot of vegetarian junk during

transitioning into a veg. Your life seems very stressful which could

be the real root of the problem. You need to have a good early waking

schedule that you follow consistantly going to bed by 11:00. You need

to find time to take care of you. Perfect Health by Deepak Chopra was

a lifesaver for me in getting my life organized and controlling my

stress and of course Deepak recommends a vegetarian lifestyle for

optimal wellness! Have you ever had your thyroid checked:? Good luck

to you.

[Guest guest]

I have been veg for over four years, and lost a total of about 95lbs.

I'm still about 20lbs overweight for my heighth, I am 5ft. over the

past couple of week I've gained about six lbs. but i've seen a change

in my eating habits, I eat too much bread which is a convenience food

for me, and also french fries and onion rings. I know that when my

digestion is working properly I feel alot better and it is easier for

me to lose weight, so I put alot into my digestive health when I eat

right.

 

Patricia

 

 

, " rchaloune " <rchaloune

wrote:

>

> I am vegetarian... and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas besides

> more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt job,

5

> college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

 

 

 

 

I am a near vegetarian.

I have reduced my weight successfully by Calorie

Restriction with Optimal Nutrition (CRON) without exercise. My

current BMI is 19.99. My BMI once reached 31.57.

 

 

 

Healthy range of BMI should be 18.5 to 22.9 (or

23.9 or 24.9) depending on the source of information.

 

 

 

The following is my experience in D.I.Y. weight loss without exercise for your

reference only.

 

 

 

(1) Have a good electronic weighing scale (also called bathroom scale).

 

 

 

(2) Pass urine first after waking up in the morning. Immediately measure the

body weight with only inner wear and the same scale.

 

 

 

(3) Find out the

estimated calories needed for the day by visiting websites like

 

 

 

http://www.am-i-fat.com/calmaintain.html

 

 

 

http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/calories-burned.php?metric=1

 

 

 

(4) Keep a food diary daily with utmost

discipline.

 

 

 

(5) Each food item in the food diary should

include the calorie of the food and other key information like weights of

dietary fiber, protein, fat, sugar (and sodium if possible). You may use a

spreadsheet for this purpose.

 

 

 

(6) If everyday, the total calories consumed

is less than the calories needed by the body, overtime you will lose weight. For

example, if in 4 weeks, the total calories consumed minus the calories needed by

the body is 7000

kcal, a person should lose about 1 kg or 2.305 pounds without any physical

exercise.

 

 

 

Note: A kcal is a kilocalorie, which is 1000 calories.

In many food labels or nutrition information sources, a calorie is the same as

a kcal.

 

 

 

(7) Normally I will

consume at least 1200 kcal daily when I need to reduce or maintain my ideal

weight.

 

 

 

(8) Take Multi-vitamin

daily

 

 

 

(9) Take vitamin C 100mg daily

 

 

 

(10) Taking about 1.5 liters of water daily

 

 

 

(11) I hardly consume any processed food except coffee and bread

 

 

 

(12) I eat a least 1 apple and 1 orange daily and sometimes banana, raw carrot,

raw tomato.

 

 

 

(13) For practical reason, I seldom take other vegetables.

 

 

 

(14) I have at least one meal of easily prepared fat-free multigrain porridge

daily.

 

 

 

(15) My diet is mainly high fiber, low fat, low salt, low sugar, low protein

near vegetarian diet.

 

 

 

(16) Keep reading

relevant books, surfing Internet and being a member of groups like

to improve my nutrition literacy.

 

 

 

I am not an expert in

nutrition or medicine. I hope my experience is useful to you as a reference.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

New Sun

[Guest guest]

I have been to a nutritionist and was told to eat on a regular schedule to

reduce weight and reduce the possibility of diabetes, every 3 hours as follows:

Breakfast                         6am

mid am snack                   9am

lunch                              12noon

mid afternoon snack         3pm

dinner/supper                   6pm

(additional evening snack  9pm only if you have three hours befor you hit the

sack)

 

I lost 30 lbs in 6 months, then changed jobs and have not been following the

plan and gained back 15#

 

 

 

 

 

Gall-less <punkish_one

 

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:57:23 PM

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

 

I have been veg for over four years, and lost a total of about 95lbs.

I'm still about 20lbs overweight for my heighth, I am 5ft. over the

past couple of week I've gained about six lbs. but i've seen a change

in my eating habits, I eat too much bread which is a convenience food

for me, and also french fries and onion rings. I know that when my

digestion is working properly I feel alot better and it is easier for

me to lose weight, so I put alot into my digestive health when I eat

right.

 

Patricia

 

, " rchaloune " <rchaloune@. ..>

wrote:

>

> I am vegetarian.. . and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas besides

> more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt job,

5

> college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree with " Richard's " post. I cut out bread, pasta, and rice, and

limit my diet to tofu and beans, vegetables, fruit, eggbeater

omelets, and I liberally spice my dishes with spices and curry

pastes. I've just lost 20 pounds under this regime.

Jerry

[Guest guest]

I agree about eating frequently. 

My son and I eat 3 meals a day with at least 2 snack times as well.

We are born eating roughly every 3-4 hours and it makes sense that some doctors

and

nutritionalists say this should not change as we age (society has dictated the 3

large meals).

We usually eat fruit as our snacks with other times having unsalted pretzels

with

hummus or  trail mix etc.  I don't do much brown rice or breads (my son does

like his sandwiches though :--o) since we generally eat Rice, Millet or Aramanth

cereal or oatmeal for breakfast.

 

Since becoming vegan, almost 2 years ago, I have lost 30 pounds and am at a

weight in which I should be for my height.  I have found along the way that

getting

rid of simple sugars, excessive sea salt, staying away from excess vegetable

oils (which will cause you to not be able to lose weight or gain weight) and

incorporating more needed exercise the weight just came right off.  Especially

after getting rid of extra veg oils and the simple sugars--a huge plus!  Simple

sugars causes us to eat much more than we otherwise would and it depletes our

phosphorus levels in your body and even puts you in the negative for it.

 

I have not counted calories but only counted protein intake.  PCRM says to take

your body weight and multiply by 0.36 (I found it to actually be a little less

than this percentage) and this is your protein intake to maintain your current

weight.  Add more

or less according to amount of exercise you get. 

My son who is a toddler, since he is growing, he takes in more than I do..some

days

a lot more,  :--) 

 

In regards to vitamins and herbs etc.  I realized that when I ate animal

products (even vegetarian still eating dairy) that I needed to every day take a

multi-vitamin but after becoming vegan I noticed right away that the same

vitamin and herb was way too much for me and when I cut them down (and had to

cut back significantly) I felt much better.  My body seems to operate far more

efficiently than when I ate any animal products.

 

Again, simple sugars, I must say seem to be a horrible poison to our bodies.. 

My husband is still a chicken and cheese eater and he cut out most simple sugars

and he has lost 25 pounds so far and eats much less than he did before (as well

as I)!

You can also read online just how simple sugars cause this effect of making you

hungry all the time. (seems like a lot of the food industry knows about it and

uses it against us to make them bigger profits)

 

best wishes,

Louanne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Richard <travler800 wrote:

Richard <travler800

Re: Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:25 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been to a nutritionist and was told to eat on a regular

schedule to reduce weight and reduce the possibility of diabetes, every 3 hours

as follows:

 

Breakfast                         6am

 

mid am snack                   9am

 

lunch                              12noon

 

mid afternoon snack         3pm

 

dinner/supper                   6pm

 

(additional evening snack  9pm only if you have three hours befor you hit the

sack)

 

 

 

I lost 30 lbs in 6 months, then changed jobs and have not been following the

plan and gained back 15#

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gall-less <punkish_one@ >

 

 

 

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:57:23 PM

 

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

 

 

I have been veg for over four years, and lost a total of about 95lbs.

 

I'm still about 20lbs overweight for my heighth, I am 5ft. over the

 

past couple of week I've gained about six lbs. but i've seen a change

 

in my eating habits, I eat too much bread which is a convenience food

 

for me, and also french fries and onion rings. I know that when my

 

digestion is working properly I feel alot better and it is easier for

 

me to lose weight, so I put alot into my digestive health when I eat

 

right.

 

 

 

Patricia

 

 

 

, " rchaloune " <rchaloune@. ..>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> I am vegetarian.. . and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas besides

 

> more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt job,

 

5

 

> college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

 

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have weeks where I follow a strict veg diet. The cheese gets to me

though, I have to at least taste it when it's around. And YOU KNOW

tasting leads to EATING A BUNCH. I'm lactose intolerant, and should

learn my lesson, when I eat dairy, I get bloated and " backed up " . I

drink a glass of not from concentrate prune juice a night, partly for

digestion partly to disturb my hubby. =)

 

Patricia

 

, Richard <travler800

wrote:

>

> 20 over here. Too much pasta, rice, bread and other bad carbs.  I

do beans and tofu andother good carbs too.  vegan too, what gives?

>  

>

>

>

>

> rchaloune <rchaloune

>

> Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:30:11 PM

> Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or

losing weight?

>

>

> I am vegetarian.. . and I am 15 pounds over weight. Any ideas

besides

> more excerise. I honestly do not have time I work 1 ft job 1 pt

job, 5

> college classes and a Dh and 3 kids. Am I all alone in this matter

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the support and tricks everyone. I have had my thyroid checked. I

started gaining 2 yrs ago with my new desk job. I bought a pedometer and I only

get about 5000 steps in a average day.I eat fruit for breakfast with one cup of

coffee. I drink 3-4 bottles of water. Ice tea is my downfall I drink one huge

glass ( 220 cal) everyday. I eat a Amy's veggie meal for lunch or a salad.

Dinner I just have vegetables if anything at all . In between a bannana or

apple. I snack on nuts or a soy yoguart.

 

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kaye <kayebillie_stain929 wrote:

 

Kaye <kayebillie_stain929

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:56 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Be sure your eating three times a day with no snacking only choosing

fruits vegetables and grains. This will help reset your body's

digestion. I fell into eating a lot of vegetarian junk during

transitioning into a veg. Your life seems very stressful which could

be the real root of the problem. You need to have a good early waking

schedule that you follow consistantly going to bed by 11:00. You need

to find time to take care of you. Perfect Health by Deepak Chopra was

a lifesaver for me in getting my life organized and controlling my

stress and of course Deepak recommends a vegetarian lifestyle for

optimal wellness! Have you ever had your thyroid checked:? Good luck

to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi

I live in Israel and posted on a local that I was

looking for likeminded women who needed to lose weight but just

couldn't do it alone.

I got 27 replies and start a really nice group.

 

My group has been running for a year now and 10 of the original

members still come and some have left and others joined.

I run this free of charge and expect a committment to take losing

weight seriously and to come regularly to meetings and it really

works.

 

It really helps to have others in the same boat to diet with and we

help each other by knowing we have to account to someone in the week.

Everyone choses one person to email for the day and say what we are

eating.

By just writing it down you realise how many extra calories you

consume by just tasting here and there when cooking and by finishing

off the kids food so you don't waste etc.

 

We meet once a week at my home and I weigh everyone and then we go

around in a circle and talk about our week.

Those who lost say what they did different that helped them and

others get good tips.

Those who were weak and didn't stick to a plan and put on say what

they did wrong and everyone encourages them with better ideas and

usually by the next week that person is back on track again.

 

If you have the support of a friend even and no one at home to

sabotage your good intentions that is a good start too.

 

So far we have all lost more than 10 kilos ( 22 lbs) by just

watching that we don't overeat and take smaller portions.

Some of the women have even lost 50 lbs in just under a year.

 

The thing is one has to do it as a way of eating sensibly and slowly

and that way you aren't hungry and you keep it off.

If you go on one of these mad fad diets you lose it but it comes

back on again and even more so.

 

One needs to cut out all white starches like white potatoes and

replace them with say red sweet potatoes.

Use brown rice and brown pasta.

Only eat whole grain bread and keep the starchy carb down to minimum

and replace them with lots of veggies instead.

 

We all stopped eating stuff with sugar in it and make our own shakes

with fresh fruit to replace unhealthy bought stuff.

Another good tip is not to drink diet sodas.. the carbs in them just

make one more hungry to have something sweet afterwards.

Just drink a lot of water you see how much you enjoy it when you get

used to it instead of stuff with sugar in it.

If you drink a glass before a meal you wont be as hungry and wont

feel the need to eat as much.

 

It is important to burn off more than your intake so it is essential

to walk as much as possible if you don't get to go the gym or do

other exercise.

 

Put your food on a smaller plate so it looks like more

 

Always sit down and eat your meal at a table and never eat standing

up because you will eat less if you see the food on your plate.

If you eat out the pot or pan you will eat more than a normal

portion.

 

Ask for your salad dressing on the side in a restaurant so you can

see how much you are putting on.

When you add dressing at home measure it in a spoon instead of just

pouring it over .. you will be surprised how many wasted calories

you consume from a heavy hand.

 

Don't eat the bread with your meals in a restaurant again just

wasted calories

 

Don't go shopping when you are hungry

 

Don't keep temptation at home so you wont have something to binge on

if you are looking to comfort eat

 

If you feel hungry wait 20 minutes before you allow yourself to eat

and more than likely you find your stomach got used to the feeling

and you can do without the extra helping.

 

Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels

 

I hope that helps

Joan

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan,

 

Such good advice - and I'll bet a lot of our members are wishing they lived near

you so they could join in your group! As it is, they will have to make do with

what's near them - not always as sensible or as supportive - or go online, eg.

vegetarianslimming - which I co-host with member Cindi - it's

been running since just after New Year 2003, and I was one of the first members,

lucky me, because it supported me through my own weight loss and now

maintenance. As it is, Vegetarian Spice is not itself a weight-loss group, even

though many people do lose weight by becoming vegetarian or vegan. But I digress

LOL

 

I love your final line:

" Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. "

I think we should all paste that to the doors of our refrigerators!!!!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

 

 

---

The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.(Oscar Wilde)

 

 

 

 

Joan M <woany

 

Friday, September 12, 2008 6:22:08 AM

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Hi

I live in Israel and posted on a local that I was

looking for likeminded women who needed to lose weight but just

couldn't do it alone.

I got 27 replies and start a really nice group.

 

My group has been running for a year now and 10 of the original

members still come and some have left and others joined.

I run this free of charge and expect a committment to take losing

weight seriously and to come regularly to meetings and it really

works.

 

It really helps to have others in the same boat to diet with and we

help each other by knowing we have to account to someone in the week.

Everyone choses one person to email for the day and say what we are

eating.

By just writing it down you realise how many extra calories you

consume by just tasting here and there when cooking and by finishing

off the kids food so you don't waste etc.

 

We meet once a week at my home and I weigh everyone and then we go

around in a circle and talk about our week.

Those who lost say what they did different that helped them and

others get good tips.

Those who were weak and didn't stick to a plan and put on say what

they did wrong and everyone encourages them with better ideas and

usually by the next week that person is back on track again.

 

If you have the support of a friend even and no one at home to

sabotage your good intentions that is a good start too.

 

So far we have all lost more than 10 kilos ( 22 lbs) by just

watching that we don't overeat and take smaller portions.

Some of the women have even lost 50 lbs in just under a year.

 

The thing is one has to do it as a way of eating sensibly and slowly

and that way you aren't hungry and you keep it off.

If you go on one of these mad fad diets you lose it but it comes

back on again and even more so.

 

One needs to cut out all white starches like white potatoes and

replace them with say red sweet potatoes.

Use brown rice and brown pasta.

Only eat whole grain bread and keep the starchy carb down to minimum

and replace them with lots of veggies instead.

 

We all stopped eating stuff with sugar in it and make our own shakes

with fresh fruit to replace unhealthy bought stuff.

Another good tip is not to drink diet sodas.. the carbs in them just

make one more hungry to have something sweet afterwards.

Just drink a lot of water you see how much you enjoy it when you get

used to it instead of stuff with sugar in it.

If you drink a glass before a meal you wont be as hungry and wont

feel the need to eat as much.

 

It is important to burn off more than your intake so it is essential

to walk as much as possible if you don't get to go the gym or do

other exercise.

 

Put your food on a smaller plate so it looks like more

 

Always sit down and eat your meal at a table and never eat standing

up because you will eat less if you see the food on your plate.

If you eat out the pot or pan you will eat more than a normal

portion.

 

Ask for your salad dressing on the side in a restaurant so you can

see how much you are putting on.

When you add dressing at home measure it in a spoon instead of just

pouring it over .. you will be surprised how many wasted calories

you consume from a heavy hand.

 

Don't eat the bread with your meals in a restaurant again just

wasted calories

 

Don't go shopping when you are hungry

 

Don't keep temptation at home so you wont have something to binge on

if you are looking to comfort eat

 

If you feel hungry wait 20 minutes before you allow yourself to eat

and more than likely you find your stomach got used to the feeling

and you can do without the extra helping.

 

Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels

 

I hope that helps

Joan

 

 

---

 

 

[Guest guest]

hello,

I am not using it as a weight loss group. I am veggie. I just had  one question

that does pertain to our life style

 

--- On Fri, 9/12/08, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Friday, September 12, 2008, 9:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Joan,

 

Such good advice - and I'll bet a lot of our members are wishing they lived near

you so they could join in your group! As it is, they will have to make do with

what's near them - not always as sensible or as supportive - or go online, eg.

vegetarianslimming - which I co-host with member Cindi - it's

been running since just after New Year 2003, and I was one of the first members,

lucky me, because it supported me through my own weight loss and now

maintenance. As it is, Vegetarian Spice is not itself a weight-loss group, even

though many people do lose weight by becoming vegetarian or vegan. But I digress

LOL

 

I love your final line:

" Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. "

I think we should all paste that to the doors of our refrigerators! !!!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

---

The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.(Oscar Wilde)

 

 

Joan M <woany (AT) netvision (DOT) net.il>

 

Friday, September 12, 2008 6:22:08 AM

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Hi

I live in Israel and posted on a local that I was

looking for likeminded women who needed to lose weight but just

couldn't do it alone.

I got 27 replies and start a really nice group.

 

My group has been running for a year now and 10 of the original

members still come and some have left and others joined.

I run this free of charge and expect a committment to take losing

weight seriously and to come regularly to meetings and it really

works.

 

It really helps to have others in the same boat to diet with and we

help each other by knowing we have to account to someone in the week.

Everyone choses one person to email for the day and say what we are

eating.

By just writing it down you realise how many extra calories you

consume by just tasting here and there when cooking and by finishing

off the kids food so you don't waste etc.

 

We meet once a week at my home and I weigh everyone and then we go

around in a circle and talk about our week.

Those who lost say what they did different that helped them and

others get good tips.

Those who were weak and didn't stick to a plan and put on say what

they did wrong and everyone encourages them with better ideas and

usually by the next week that person is back on track again.

 

If you have the support of a friend even and no one at home to

sabotage your good intentions that is a good start too.

 

So far we have all lost more than 10 kilos ( 22 lbs) by just

watching that we don't overeat and take smaller portions.

Some of the women have even lost 50 lbs in just under a year.

 

The thing is one has to do it as a way of eating sensibly and slowly

and that way you aren't hungry and you keep it off.

If you go on one of these mad fad diets you lose it but it comes

back on again and even more so.

 

One needs to cut out all white starches like white potatoes and

replace them with say red sweet potatoes.

Use brown rice and brown pasta.

Only eat whole grain bread and keep the starchy carb down to minimum

and replace them with lots of veggies instead.

 

We all stopped eating stuff with sugar in it and make our own shakes

with fresh fruit to replace unhealthy bought stuff.

Another good tip is not to drink diet sodas.. the carbs in them just

make one more hungry to have something sweet afterwards.

Just drink a lot of water you see how much you enjoy it when you get

used to it instead of stuff with sugar in it.

If you drink a glass before a meal you wont be as hungry and wont

feel the need to eat as much.

 

It is important to burn off more than your intake so it is essential

to walk as much as possible if you don't get to go the gym or do

other exercise.

 

Put your food on a smaller plate so it looks like more

 

Always sit down and eat your meal at a table and never eat standing

up because you will eat less if you see the food on your plate.

If you eat out the pot or pan you will eat more than a normal

portion.

 

Ask for your salad dressing on the side in a restaurant so you can

see how much you are putting on.

When you add dressing at home measure it in a spoon instead of just

pouring it over .. you will be surprised how many wasted calories

you consume from a heavy hand.

 

Don't eat the bread with your meals in a restaurant again just

wasted calories

 

Don't go shopping when you are hungry

 

Don't keep temptation at home so you wont have something to binge on

if you are looking to comfort eat

 

If you feel hungry wait 20 minutes before you allow yourself to eat

and more than likely you find your stomach got used to the feeling

and you can do without the extra helping.

 

Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels

 

I hope that helps

Joan

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin!

 

Of _course_ you were simply asking a question - and perfectly proper it was too

and so are the responses to it! These days everyone has to be concerned about

their weight, and being vegetarian doesn't mean that one can forget about it

(ask me! I gained weight as a vegetarian years ago and it's really really

easy to do!!). We can talk about this some more, of course. And of course the

post, although responding to a thread you started, was directed to the group as

a whole and especially to the member I addressed - see below.

 

I was just really explaining/apologizing to Joan, who had sent in some sensible

weight-loss guidelines, and to others that it's not that kind of group. Also,

some newbies to the group do join because they are making the transition to

vegetarian to lose weight. (True - we moderators read the reasons they give on

joining.) That's fine, we're happy to have them, but our recipes here are often

the last thing you'd want to eat to lose weight, although most I think are

healthy and many could easily be adapted.

 

On this topic, have you - or has anyone else reading this - had a look at the

book _Skinny Bitch_. It's a provocative title, I know, but I got the book out of

the library some months ago when it was mentioned on another group. I think it's

pretty good! (One of the author's also has a regular column in VegNews magazine

btw.)

 

Good to hear your sensible voice on this issue. I wish I could figure out what

you're doing to gain that weight - you seem to be eating very well and very

healthily indeed. It's a mystery, but one that needs to be solved - right?

 

Love, Pat

 

 

I am not using it as a weight loss group. I am veggie. I just had one question

that does pertain to our life style

 

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drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Friday, September 12, 2008, 9:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Joan,

 

Such good advice - and I'll bet a lot of our members are wishing they lived near

you so they could join in your group! As it is, they will have to make do with

what's near them - not always as sensible or as supportive - or go online, eg.

vegetarianslimming - which I co-host with member Cindi - it's

been running since just after New Year 2003, and I was one of the first members,

lucky me, because it supported me through my own weight loss and now

maintenance. As it is, Vegetarian Spice is not itself a weight-loss group, even

though many people do lose weight by becoming vegetarian or vegan. But I digress

LOL

 

I love your final line:

" Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. "

I think we should all paste that to the doors of our refrigerators! !!!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

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The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.(Oscar Wilde)

 

 

Joan M <woany (AT) netvision (DOT) net.il>

 

Friday, September 12, 2008 6:22:08 AM

Re: Ok Anyone having trouble maintaing or losing

weight?

 

Hi

I live in Israel and posted on a local that I was

looking for likeminded women who needed to lose weight but just

couldn't do it alone.

I got 27 replies and start a really nice group.

 

My group has been running for a year now and 10 of the original

members still come and some have left and others joined.

I run this free of charge and expect a committment to take losing

weight seriously and to come regularly to meetings and it really

works.

 

It really helps to have others in the same boat to diet with and we

help each other by knowing we have to account to someone in the week.

Everyone choses one person to email for the day and say what we are

eating.

By just writing it down you realise how many extra calories you

consume by just tasting here and there when cooking and by finishing

off the kids food so you don't waste etc.

 

We meet once a week at my home and I weigh everyone and then we go

around in a circle and talk about our week.

Those who lost say what they did different that helped them and

others get good tips.

Those who were weak and didn't stick to a plan and put on say what

they did wrong and everyone encourages them with better ideas and

usually by the next week that person is back on track again.

 

If you have the support of a friend even and no one at home to

sabotage your good intentions that is a good start too.

 

So far we have all lost more than 10 kilos ( 22 lbs) by just

watching that we don't overeat and take smaller portions.

Some of the women have even lost 50 lbs in just under a year.

 

The thing is one has to do it as a way of eating sensibly and slowly

and that way you aren't hungry and you keep it off.

If you go on one of these mad fad diets you lose it but it comes

back on again and even more so.

 

One needs to cut out all white starches like white potatoes and

replace them with say red sweet potatoes.

Use brown rice and brown pasta.

Only eat whole grain bread and keep the starchy carb down to minimum

and replace them with lots of veggies instead.

 

We all stopped eating stuff with sugar in it and make our own shakes

with fresh fruit to replace unhealthy bought stuff.

Another good tip is not to drink diet sodas.. the carbs in them just

make one more hungry to have something sweet afterwards.

Just drink a lot of water you see how much you enjoy it when you get

used to it instead of stuff with sugar in it.

If you drink a glass before a meal you wont be as hungry and wont

feel the need to eat as much.

 

It is important to burn off more than your intake so it is essential

to walk as much as possible if you don't get to go the gym or do

other exercise.

 

Put your food on a smaller plate so it looks like more

 

Always sit down and eat your meal at a table and never eat standing

up because you will eat less if you see the food on your plate.

If you eat out the pot or pan you will eat more than a normal

portion.

 

Ask for your salad dressing on the side in a restaurant so you can

see how much you are putting on.

When you add dressing at home measure it in a spoon instead of just

pouring it over .. you will be surprised how many wasted calories

you consume from a heavy hand.

 

Don't eat the bread with your meals in a restaurant again just

wasted calories

 

Don't go shopping when you are hungry

 

Don't keep temptation at home so you wont have something to binge on

if you are looking to comfort eat

 

If you feel hungry wait 20 minutes before you allow yourself to eat

and more than likely you find your stomach got used to the feeling

and you can do without the extra helping.

 

Remember that nothing tastes as good as thin feels

 

I hope that helps

Joan

 

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