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Hi all,

 

I have a recipe that I love, which is cabbage casserole or, in my

mind, lazyman's cabbage rolls.

The only thing I can think of to use instead of meat is grated carrots.

I don't want to use processed foods (isn't that what commercial meat

substitutes are? or ...?).

Do you have any other ideas?

 

The recipe also calls for rice, tomato soup, onions, and of course

cabbage. Cheese on top. Just delicious, so I haven't given it up yet.

Now if I can just make something similar using only vegetables or

even dairy ... yeah!

 

Kate

 

 

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What about using carrots and..

 

Temph is healthy or

 Organic Brown Rice

 

 

 

 

 

Robin Chaloune

 

--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Kate Johnson <monkeyshines wrote:

 

 

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Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:03 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

I have a recipe that I love, which is cabbage casserole or, in my

mind, lazyman's cabbage rolls.

The only thing I can think of to use instead of meat is grated carrots.

I don't want to use processed foods (isn't that what commercial meat

substitutes are? or ...?).

Do you have any other ideas?

 

The recipe also calls for rice, tomato soup, onions, and of course

cabbage. Cheese on top. Just delicious, so I haven't given it up yet.

Now if I can just make something similar using only vegetables or

even dairy ... yeah!

 

Kate

 

http://stubblejumpe rscafe.pnn. com/6853- the-front- page

today, aunt alma goes to the yukon

 

 

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Well, it looks to me as if you are doing well to overlook processed foods, but

be careful I'd say. You can very rarely use an old recipe you love and convert

it to vegetarian and/or vegan and still have it taste or even look like the

original IF you aren't willing to use some substitutes. The tomato soup is

certainly processed, as is cheese - for example.

 

You could think about adding in something like bulgar wheat (great texture!) in

place of the animal flesh (or even, heaven forfend, if you were willing to go a

tiny bit towards processed food, crumbled extra firm tofu, or for greater health

crumbled tempeh), using your own homemade substitute for the tomato soup (pureed

tomatoes with appropriate seasonings? Something like that.) and using a homemade

substitute for dairy cheese (most have some nutritional yeast flakes and some

have crushed nuts in there too). Worth considering.

 

Best, Pat

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Hadn't seen this when I responded. Good ideas!

 

Best, Pat

 

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Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:40:38 PM

Re: substitutes for beef

 

What about using carrots and..

 

Temph is healthy or

Organic Brown Rice

 

 

 

 

 

Robin Chaloune

 

--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Kate Johnson <monkeyshines wrote:

 

 

Kate Johnson <monkeyshines

substitutes for beef

 

Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:03 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

I have a recipe that I love, which is cabbage casserole or, in my

mind, lazyman's cabbage rolls.

The only thing I can think of to use instead of meat is grated carrots.

I don't want to use processed foods (isn't that what commercial meat

substitutes are? or ...?).

Do you have any other ideas?

 

The recipe also calls for rice, tomato soup, onions, and of course

cabbage. Cheese on top. Just delicious, so I haven't given it up yet.

Now if I can just make something similar using only vegetables or

even dairy ... yeah!

 

Kate

 

http://stubblejumpe rscafe.pnn. com/6853- the-front- page

today, aunt alma goes to the yukon

 

 

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Kate and all,

 

speaking of tomato soup, I have a great recipe for same but as it is not

spicey I did not post it here. I will be happy to post it if people want it.

 

regards,

Chris

 

 

 

 

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You might consider using portobello mushrooms as meat substitute. The

large-capped portobello mushroom will give you big, chewy chunks, which

may be what some people want from meat.

 

jrfm

 

 

Kate Johnson wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have a recipe that I love, which is cabbage casserole or, in my

> mind, lazyman's cabbage rolls.

> The only thing I can think of to use instead of meat is grated carrots.

> I don't want to use processed foods (isn't that what commercial meat

> substitutes are? or ...?).

> Do you have any other ideas?

>

> The recipe also calls for rice, tomato soup, onions, and of course

> cabbage. Cheese on top. Just delicious, so I haven't given it up yet.

> Now if I can just make something similar using only vegetables or

> even dairy ... yeah!

>

> Kate

>

> http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page

> <http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page>

> today, aunt alma goes to the yukon

>

>

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Thanks everyone for your ideas. I hadn't thought of mushrooms ...

 

I don't mean to give anyone the idea that I don't use any processed

foods in my cooking.

Just that if there's something else available, I'll use it first

because I avoid processed foods where I can, or where I know how to.

By some standards, even flour is a processed food, isn't it?

I'm not an extremist foodie in any way. I eat the odd chocolate bar,

love potato chips, and often drink a pop on the weekend while

nibbling and watching a movie. But moderation in all things, I say.

 

My husband usually makes and freezes containers of his homemade

tomato soup every fall. Beats the storebought crap all to hell.

 

Other problems we have out here are regular access to foods like

tempeh. It has to be purchased when we go to the city and are already

overwhelmed with all the running around we have to do in the one or

two days we are there. I'm going to add it to my list for next time

and give it a try. I imagine it's quite expensive for a small amount,

but assume it can be frozen for later use.

 

Kate

 

 

 

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