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[Guest guest]

The forwarded message from PCRM should be of interest to all vegetarians and

vegans. This is so much contra to the usual info from the fish lobby and from

most dietitians that it's worth reading. Personally, being a vegetarian as most

of us are, I find the idea of fish and fish oil unacceptable in any case, but

the supposed 'need' for it is an argument non-vegetarians, semi-vegetarians,

flexitarians and anti-vegetarians often make for vegetarians and vegans needing

to deviate from what _they_ (the non-veg friendly folk) see as an 'unhealthy'

(read fish-free) diet. Now you have some ammunition Go for it!!!

 

Best, Pat (Co-owner with Piers)

 

 

 

----- Forwarded Message ----

PCRM Breaking Medical News <c+pcrm

drpatsant

Friday, August 14, 2009 11:30:25 AM

Breaking Medical News: Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)

 

Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links fish and

omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204 adults for 14 to18

years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty acids participants

consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The risk increase was

modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22 percent increased risk for

women consuming five or more fish servings per week.

Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle cells can lead

to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes. People who eat no

animal products have less fat in their cells and much less risk of developing

diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type 2 diabetes.

Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu FB. Long-chain

omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus. Am J

Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its relationship

with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin Nutr.

2005;59:291-298.

Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green A,

Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical trial.

Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

 

 

 

For information about nutrition and health, please visit www.pcrm.org/.

Breaking Medical News is a service of the Physicians Committee for Responsible

Medicine,

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Very interesting, Pat.  Every time I read about how a few servings of fish a

week is necessary for good health, I feel like I am doing my body a disservice

by my choice of being a vegetarian.

 

I hope more studies find these results, but as of now, this is the first that

has said this.  All others sing the praises of fish oil in diabetes

prevention/control:

 

http://www.oilofpisces.com/diabetes.html

 

Of course I think a low fat vegan diet has many health benefits.  But I do need

to point out that many vegetarians and vegans don't necessarily eat low fat. 

There are some who don't seem to worry about/minimize fat.  It may not be animal

fat, but it can be trans fat stuff (like French fries), saturated fat (coconut

milk), and so on....

 

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Fw: Breaking Medical News: Fish and Fish Oil Linked

to Diabetes Risk

" vegetarian spice "

Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:16 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The forwarded message from PCRM should be of interest to all

vegetarians and vegans. This is so much contra to the usual info from the fish

lobby and from most dietitians that it's worth reading. Personally, being a

vegetarian as most of us are, I find the idea of fish and fish oil unacceptable

in any case, but the supposed 'need' for it is an argument non-vegetarians,

semi-vegetarians, flexitarians and anti-vegetarians often make for vegetarians

and vegans needing to deviate from what _they_ (the non-veg friendly folk) see

as an 'unhealthy' (read fish-free) diet. Now you have some ammunition Go for

it!!!

 

 

 

Best, Pat (Co-owner with Piers)

 

 

 

----- Forwarded Message ----

 

PCRM Breaking Medical News <c+pcrm@trusted- sender.convio. net>

 

drpatsant

 

Friday, August 14, 2009 11:30:25 AM

 

Breaking Medical News: Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

 

 

Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)

 

 

 

Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links fish and

omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204 adults for 14 to18

years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty acids participants

consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The risk increase was

modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22 percent increased risk for

women consuming five or more fish servings per week.

 

Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle cells can lead

to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes. People who eat no

animal products have less fat in their cells and much less risk of developing

diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type 2 diabetes.

 

Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu FB. Long-chain

omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus. Am J

Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

 

Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its relationship

with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin Nutr.

2005;59:291- 298.

 

Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green A,

Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical trial.

Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S- 1596S.

 

 

 

For information about nutrition and health, please visit www.pcrm.org/ .

 

Breaking Medical News is a service of the Physicians Committee for Responsible

Medicine,

 

5100 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Suite 400, Washington, DC 20016.

 

 

 

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Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)

 

 

Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

links fish and omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204

adults for 14 to18 years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty

acids participants consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The

risk increase was modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22 percent

increased risk for women consuming five or more fish servings per week.

 

Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle

cells can lead to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes.

People who eat no animal products have less fat in their cells and much less

risk of developing diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type

2 diabetes.

 

 

Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu

FB. Long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes

mellitus. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

 

Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its

relationship with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin

Nutr. 2005;59:291-298.

 

Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green

A, Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical trial.

Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

 

 

For information about nutrition and health, please visit

www.pcrm.org/.

 

Breaking Medical News is a service of the Physicians Committee for

Responsible Medicine,

5100 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Suite 400, Washington, DC 20016.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean :-( But have you seen/read Dr Neal Barnard's book on

reversing diabetes? Worth a look for any vegetarian/vegan.

 

As for unhealthy fat-laden diets of veg*ns, true enough I guess for some or even

many, especially if they feel that they have to 'make up' for the lack of

animal protein by adding in lots of cheese etc. and then, for those who go

vegan, feeling they can add more non-animal oils with impunity. Nevertheless,

there are wondrous books out there - Barnard, Fuhrman, McDougall, etc. among

many others - which show how to eat a healthy life-sustaining disease-fighting

vegan diet. We live in a glorious age!

 

Best, Pat

 

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" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

 

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Very interesting, Pat. Every time I read about how a few servings of fish a

week is necessary for good health, I feel like I am doing my body a disservice

by my choice of being a vegetarian.

 

I hope more studies find these results, but as of now, this is the first that

has said this. All others sing the praises of fish oil in diabetes

prevention/control:

 

http://www.oilofpisces.com/diabetes.html

 

Of course I think a low fat vegan diet has many health benefits. But I do need

to point out that many vegetarians and vegans don't necessarily eat low fat.

There are some who don't seem to worry about/minimize fat. It may not be animal

fat, but it can be trans fat stuff (like French fries), saturated fat (coconut

milk), and so on....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am not sure which rock this person crawled out from under...but I have read

and heard of so many other studies where it says just the opposite. Omegas are

soooooooo important whether you use CLO or an herbal one. The studies I have

read always tell you to up the Omegas not down em...

 

The cause of diabetes as I understand for most people is not fats at

all...except for those who are extremely low...then it is a real issue...low

Omegas cause some real issues. What I understand is that the pancreas has

trouble with it's insulin as in reading it...that it is there...like a plugged

pipe....even if the body is producing enough...it doesn't recognize it. The

reason that sugar and carbs are an issue...isn't because there is no insulin..it

is because the body isn't recognizing that it is sufficient....so it over

produces and burns the pancreas up. Sorry my simplified version.

 

 

But the title of the group bothers me....because I believe it is an oxymoron!!!

 

 

 

 

> Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)

>

>

> Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

>

> A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

links fish and omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204

adults for 14 to18 years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty

acids participants consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The

risk increase was modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22 percent

increased risk for women consuming five or more fish servings per week.

>

> Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle

cells can lead to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes.

People who eat no animal products have less fat in their cells and much less

risk of developing diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type

2 diabetes.

>

>

> Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu

FB. Long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes

mellitus. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

>

> Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its

relationship with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin

Nutr. 2005;59:291-298.

>

> Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L,

Green A, Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in

the treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical

trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

>

>

> For information about nutrition and health, please visit

www.pcrm.org/.

>

> Breaking Medical News is a service of the Physicians Committee for

Responsible Medicine,

> 5100 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Suite 400, Washington, DC 20016.

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

This is absolutely amazing. My husbands endocrinologist has been pushing

him to increase " fish oil. " We take a vegan DHA which is very expensive, so

we are trying other ways to increase Omega 3 - hemp seeds, walnuts, etc.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Ronnimike, I can understand you feeling shocked by their research report. It

does indeed suggest something radically different from commerically motivated

research pushing fishfishfish and oil products. Perhaps you would like to go

straight to the " horse's mouth " as it were, contact the PCRM yourself with your

concerns, ask them to explain where they are coming from. I hope you will find

it reasurring and clarifying.

 

As I understand it, the issue of Omega 3/omega 6 fatty acids is primarily about

balance. We need more 3 than 6, but trying to create that balance by simply

supplementing with omega 3s causes problems. Excess dietary fat of all types

can cause insulin resistance. When it comes to fat, it's super easy to get " too

much of a good thing " . Eating fish and purposeful supplementation with oils

clearly can have negative results.

 

It is my understanding that the safest approach is to eat a diet dominant in

omega 3 fatty acids while also being as low in overall fat as possible. This

starts by eliminating the intake of oils that are dominant in omega 6 fatty

acids (corn, sunflower, olive, soy, etc). Then, the next step is choosing a

low-fat diet of plant foods that are naturally omega 3 fatty acid dominant such

as most green and yellow veggies, berries and cherries, mangoes, papaya, orange

and green mellons, kidney beans.

 

Then, when eating gluten free grains, adding a small amount of freshly ground

flax seed (approximately a tablespoon) can help maintain balance of fatty acids

in favour of omega 3. This approach keeps one's total fat intake as low as

possible while balancing the fatty acid profile in favour of omega 3. This

assists our our bodies in producing the DHA and EPA we need, without clogging

the system with excess fat.

 

Deborah

 

 

 

I am not sure which rock this person crawled out from under...but I have

read and heard of so many other studies where it says just the opposite. Omegas

are soooooooo important whether you use CLO or an herbal one. The studies I have

read always tell you to up the Omegas not down em...

 

The cause of diabetes as I understand for most people is not fats at

all...except for those who are extremely low...then it is a real issue...low

Omegas cause some real issues. What I understand is that the pancreas has

trouble with it's insulin as in reading it...that it is there...like a plugged

pipe....even if the body is producing enough...it doesn't recognize it. The

reason that sugar and carbs are an issue...isn't because there is no insulin..it

is because the body isn't recognizing that it is sufficient....so it over

produces and burns the pancreas up. Sorry my simplified version.

 

But the title of the group bothers me....because I believe it is an

oxymoron!!!

.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Omegas are essential, and are available from non animal sources. Hemp is a a

good source of omegas. Canola and olive oils are better than soybean and

corn oils. There is an article in the current prevention magazine about

omegas. The problem in the US is that people are getting too many omega 6's

and not enough omega 3's. Animal based products are high in omega 6s. As far

as fish goes, if your going to eat fish, wild caught is healthier than

farmed fish because farmed fish don't have enough room to swim around,

become fatter, and have more omega 6s than omega 3s.

 

We do need both 3s and 6s, however, too many 6s inhibit the absorption of

the 3s and excess omega 6s in the body leads to obesity. I can see how that

tidbit of information can be twisted into a diabetes issue. Just like corn

syrup! Moderation is key! Everybody is ready to point to foods as the cause

of disease. We, each of us, are responsible for what and how much we consume

and we are to blame for our own diseases! Even if healthy options are not

readily available, you don't have to gorge on junk!

 

This post sounds to me like fuel for vegan activist to force their views on

others. While we all know that a high meat diet can lead to many health

concerns and there is tons of information supporting this, making a claim

that omegas are responsible for diabetes is ridiculous and harmful to those

who believe it and try to avoid all omegas! Get the facts, come up with a

list of vegan sources and educate yourself (and those who want to know the

facts) and adjust your diet accordingly so that you can be healthier.

 

On a similar note, notice how obesity and diabetes are at the top of the

list of main health concerns of the US, yet all these restaurants keep

coming up with bigger and bigger death burgers? If obesity is the #1 issue,

why do we need double cheeseburgers with bacon that contain more calories

than the average person should consume in a day? You'd think these places

would come up with some healthier options besides a side salad! Seriously,

how many blood thirsty meat eaters are going to opt for a salad for lunch?

I'm not saying totally do away with meat. I know that wouldn't go over to

well! But a few more vegan options would be nice on the menus and the meat

meals could be scaled back a bit! Heart issues are the next biggy that is on

the rise! Just in the past 6 months I personally know/knew 8 men who had

either died or had major surgery because of heart attacks, clogged arteries,

etc. All in their 50's! That is scary! We really need to move away from the

pizza and burgers mentality because it's not just an issue of diabetes and

obesity, it's a matter of life and death! Companies really need to start

taking a proactive step towards making healthier options available to their

customers! I know so many people who eat junk for lunch because they are

unable to take a lunch and the option available to them is all junk! It's

ridiculous that these situations even exist!

 

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:45 AM, ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH wrote:

 

>

>

> I am not sure which rock this person crawled out from under...but I have

> read and heard of so many other studies where it says just the opposite.

> Omegas are soooooooo important whether you use CLO or an herbal one. The

> studies I have read always tell you to up the Omegas not down em...

>

> The cause of diabetes as I understand for most people is not fats at

> all...except for those who are extremely low...then it is a real issue...low

> Omegas cause some real issues. What I understand is that the pancreas has

> trouble with it's insulin as in reading it...that it is there...like a

> plugged pipe....even if the body is producing enough...it doesn't recognize

> it. The reason that sugar and carbs are an issue...isn't because there is no

> insulin..it is because the body isn't recognizing that it is

> sufficient....so it over produces and burns the pancreas up. Sorry my

> simplified version.

>

> But the title of the group bothers me....because I believe it is an

> oxymoron!!!

>

> > Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)

> >

> >

> > Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

> >

> > A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links

> fish and omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204

> adults for 14 to18 years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3

> fatty acids participants consumed, the higher their risk of developing

> diabetes. The risk increase was modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose

> to a 22 percent increased risk for women consuming five or more fish

> servings per week.

> >

> > Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle cells

> can lead to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes.

> People who eat no animal products have less fat in their cells and much less

> risk of developing diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve

> type 2 diabetes.

> >

> >

> > Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu FB.

> Long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes

> mellitus. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

> >

> > Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its

> relationship with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin

> Nutr. 2005;59:291-298.

> >

> > Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green A,

> Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

> treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical

> trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

> >

> >

> > For information about nutrition and health, please visit www.pcrm.org/.

> >

> > Breaking Medical News is a service of the Physicians Committee for

> Responsible Medicine,

> > 5100 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Suite 400, Washington, DC 20016.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Also look up Salba.

Marilee

 

 

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" Maida Genser " <maidawg

 

Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:59 AM

Re:Fw: Breaking Medical News: Fish and Fish Oil

Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

 

> This is absolutely amazing. My husbands endocrinologist has been pushing

> him to increase " fish oil. " We take a vegan DHA which is very expensive,

> so

> we are trying other ways to increase Omega 3 - hemp seeds, walnuts, etc.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

About ten years ago, my natural-foods/herb/supplement-type oriented physician

prescribed a vegetarian omega-3 oil--cannot recall what it was, but I needed

several tablespoons per day. I remember, the oil had to be refrigerated and

needed to used without cooking with it. I mostly made salad dressings and

mayonnaise with it.

 

I was able to do that until I developed a chronic gall bladder infection. I

was unable to tolerate that much fat [i was limited to less than 20 grams of fat

per day] and had to switch to fish oil [1 tsp per day]. I was able to tolerate

the fish oil dosage. I am not from a diabetic-type family so that has never

been an issue.

 

I found out later, when I developed lyme disease, that the chronic gall bladder

disease was caused by bartonella [commonly called cat-scratch disease]. The

gall bladder infection and stomach ulcer went away when I was treated with

medication [levaquin, a later, rifampin] for bartonella. The biggest problem I

had with fats were and continue to be hydrogenated fats.

 

Kathleen

 

 

My husbands endocrinologist has been pushing him to increase " fish oil. " We

take a vegan DHA which is very expensive, so we are trying other ways to

increase Omega 3 - hemp seeds, walnuts, etc.

[Guest guest]

Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)Out of concern for those who

seemed to think this post was anti-vegan, I am re-posting it, so we can take

another look at it, carefully. The title says it all: fish and fish oil is the

target problem.

 

Please also note the final statement in the report: " People who eat no animal

products have less fat in their cells and much less risk of developing diabetes.

A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type 2 diabetes. " Surely, that's

as pro-vegan as one could want, isn't it?

 

Have the objections risen from the idea that a qualified vegan diet is a good

idea? ie., a LOW-FAT vegan diet?

 

Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links fish and

omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204 adults for 14 to18

years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty acids participants

consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The risk increase was

modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22 percent increased risk for

women consuming five or more fish servings per week.

 

Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle cells can lead

to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes. People who eat no

animal products have less fat in their cells and much less risk of developing

diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type 2 diabetes.

 

 

Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu FB. Long-chain

omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus. Am J

Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

 

Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its relationship

with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin Nutr.

2005;59:291-298.

 

Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green A,

Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical trial.

Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

 

 

For information about nutrition and health, please visit www.pcrm.org/.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think it is because the study states that it links " fish and omega-3

oil consumption to type 2 diabetes " . Not just fish and fish oil. But

omega 3 oil. I was not able to determine from reading the study

summaries whether one of the study groups used a non-fish omega 3 oil

or not.

 

Pam

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Deborah Pageau<dpageau wrote:

>

>

> Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)Out of concern for those

> who seemed to think this post was anti-vegan, I am re-posting it, so we can

> take another look at it, carefully. The title says it all: fish and fish oil

> is the target problem.

>

> Please also note the final statement in the report: " People who eat no

> animal products have less fat in their cells and much less risk of

> developing diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type 2

> diabetes. " Surely, that's as pro-vegan as one could want, isn't it?

>

> Have the objections risen from the idea that a qualified vegan diet is a

> good idea? ie., a LOW-FAT vegan diet?

>

> Fish and Fish Oil Linked to Diabetes Risk

>

> A new Harvard study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links fish

> and omega-3 oil consumption to type 2 diabetes. Following 195,204 adults for

> 14 to18 years, researchers found that the more fish or omega-3 fatty acids

> participants consumed, the higher their risk of developing diabetes. The

> risk increase was modest for occasional fish eaters, but rose to a 22

> percent increased risk for women consuming five or more fish servings per

> week.

>

> Prior studies have suggested that fat accumulation within muscle cells can

> lead to insulin resistance which, in turn, contributes to diabetes. People

> who eat no animal products have less fat in their cells and much less risk

> of developing diabetes. A low-fat vegan diet has been shown to improve type

> 2 diabetes.

>

> Kaushik M, Mozaffarian D, Spiegelman D, Manson JE, Willett WC, Hu FB.

> Long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, fish intake, and the risk of type 2 diabetes

> mellitus. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009 Jul 22. [Epub ahead of print]

>

> Goff LM, Bell JD, So PW, Dornhorst A, Frost GS. Veganism and its

> relationship with insulin resistance and intramyocellular lipid. Eur J Clin

> Nutr. 2005;59:291-298.

>

> Barnard ND, Cohen J, Jenkins DJ, Turner-McGrievy G, Gloede L, Green A,

> Ferdowsian H. A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the

> treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-week clinical

> trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009;89:1588S-1596S.

>

> For information about nutrition and health, please visit www.pcrm.org/.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I see what Jae and Pam are wondering.

 

The conclusion that the more " ...omega-3 fatty acids participants consumed, the

higher their risk of developing diabetes. " seems to imply that completely

avoiding all omega 3 fatty acid is best. While I see how one might deduce that

from the wording, in reality, that isn't even possible when eating a varied,

completely vegan diet of whole plant foods. All whole plant foods contain some

omega 3 fatty acids, there is no way to completely avoid them. They are only

trying to say that working at getting enough by supplementing only increases

health problems.

 

Please note: their recommendation is for a LOW-fat vegan diet, not a NO-fat

vegan diet. There is plenty of fat even in low-fat plant foods. Getting enough

is NOT the problem; getting too much, is. They have proved many times, over many

years, that a low-fat vegan diet cures diabetes with their very successful

program. It's all on their website.

 

All they are really saying is what Dr. John McDougall has been telling us since

1985: eat a varied vegan diet of whole, low-fat foods. Pressed oils are not

" whole " , they are concentrated fat, even so called " good " oils. If this all

seems a bit weird or too radical, please go onto their websites and check out

the many articles on this and other topics on promoting health with low-fat

vegan diet.

 

Does this resolve the issue?

 

Deborah

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think you were taking flaxseed oil.

 

Patricia

 

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Kathleen Pelley <kmpelley wrote:

 

Kathleen Pelley <kmpelley

Re:Fw: Breaking Medical News: Fish and Fish Oil

Linked to Diabetes Risk

 

Saturday, August 15, 2009, 4:04 PM

 

About ten years ago, my natural-foods/herb/supplement-type oriented physician

prescribed a vegetarian omega-3 oil--cannot recall what it was, but I needed

several tablespoons per day.  I remember, the oil had to be refrigerated and

needed to used without cooking with it.  I mostly made salad dressings and

mayonnaise with it. 

 

I was able to do that until I developed a chronic gall bladder infection.    I

was unable to tolerate that much fat [i was limited to less than 20 grams of fat

per day] and had to switch to fish oil [1 tsp per day].  I was able to tolerate

the fish oil dosage.  I am not from a diabetic-type family so that has never

been an issue.

 

I found out later, when I developed lyme disease, that the chronic gall bladder

disease was caused by bartonella [commonly called cat-scratch disease].  The

gall bladder infection and stomach ulcer went away when I was treated with

medication [levaquin, a later, rifampin] for bartonella.  The biggest problem I

had with fats were and continue to be hydrogenated fats.

 

Kathleen

 

 

My husbands endocrinologist has been pushing him to increase " fish oil. "   We

take a vegan DHA which is very expensive, so we are trying other ways to

increase Omega 3 - hemp seeds, walnuts, etc.

 

 

 

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