Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Don't know what you want the sesame seeds for, but if it is just the flavor you might try raw tahini. Your coop may carry that. As to the Chicago trip. Call them up, tell them about your dietary restrictions and see if they can accomodate you in any way. The probably serve some type of salad at this event and perhaps could just make you a big one for your meals. Another option is to bring your food with you. It is not unusual for me to bring dried fruit, nuts and/or fruit with me to these things to supplement what little I will find there to eat. You could also use this as an opportunity for a fast. -Mike --- Joyloulin wrote: > My co-op that I belonged to for 20 years is not carrying bulk sesame > seeds > because they said they get rancid and they don't sell enough. Is > there an > online place I can get them? How can I find a Organic Food supply > place about 50 > mile radius from me - is there a way to find out online? > > I want to go with a group on a boat in Chicago that tours the city at > night - > it leaves here 10:30 a.m. and they have lunch and then supper on the > yacht. > There are 3 selections to choose from all meat and cooked. Any > suggestions - > I would be getting home about 6 p.m. I have wanted to go on this > yacht for > years - now I have the oppourtunity but don't want to eat cooked > anything. > Suggestions please? > > Louise > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Thanks Mike, I don't think I am ready to fast when all about me are eating. I'm not there yet. I did do a 3 day water fast last month but I was home and my stomach was upset anyway - I gave it a rest. I have not finished my first month of raw - almost there. I want the sesame seeds for calcium. I am concerned about ther raw tahini in jars - how do they process the canning lids without heating? I wonder about that sometimes with raw honey and other products. There is heating involved in most canning. I know - I used to can everything. Louise <<1. Re: help Posted by: " Mike Elliot " mmelliot mmelliot Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:06 am (PDT) Don't know what you want the sesame seeds for, but if it is just the flavor you might try raw tahini. Your coop may carry that. As to the Chicago trip. Call them up, tell them about your dietary restrictions and see if they can accomodate you in any way. The probably serve some type of salad at this event and perhaps could just make you a big one for your meals. Another option is to bring your food with you. It is not unusual for me to bring dried fruit, nuts and/or fruit with me to these things to supplement what little I will find there to eat. You could also use this as an opportunity for a fast. -Mike>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Well, Edith, you were the one who originally said you knew of this great mail order source of TVP (28 March, message no. 5528) and offered to send the information to anyone interested. Perhaps those people whom you contacted off list about this online source you were so keen on would like to contact you and remind you of the information you gave them. As far as I can tell from these posts, the original information did NOT come from this list but from you - so perhaps you have conrfused us with another group??? Good luck!!! Best, Pat , " dusty06282000 " <dusty06282000 wrote: > > A while ago I found a mail order veggie cataqlog on here. The food > was great. I lost the newspaper catolag they sent with my order. I > need to find it again. It was called " online something " or " something > online " > They had alot of TVP products that were great. If anyone knows of > this please tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 A quick Google search (doesn't take a minute to do) comes up with The Mail Order Catalog - could that be the one? http://www.healthy-eating.com/ Piers - " dusty06282000 " <dusty06282000 Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:20 PM HELP > A while ago I found a mail order veggie catalog on here. The food > was great. I lost the newspaper catalog they sent with my order. I > need to find it again. It was called " online something " or " something > online " > They had alot of TVP products that were great. If anyone knows of > this please tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Edith, another catalog for mail order food suitable for vegetarians is Dixie Diner: http://dixiediner.com/ (800) 233-3668 info ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ from Maida Citizens for Pets in Condos www.petsincondos.org South Florida Vegetarian Events www.soflavegevents.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 My advise would be not to worry about it. When I first started on raw food I lost 40lbs in less than 3 weeks (my skinny pants were real loose so I weighed) It was awesome and there was no extra skin flabbing around. It will surprise you how much our bods take care of them selves when we give them proper nutrients. graywitchrn <runestar1 wrote: Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have any usefull advice? thanks Karen Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hi, Donna and Karen, The large amount lost at first is mostly fluid. After that, it should slow somewhat but that should help with the loose skin problem, too. Our bodies need time to adapt to all the changes so don't try to take it off too quickly. I lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 pounds and I have a little loose skin on my belly but it's tightening up with time. :-) Tommie http://reallyrawfood.com/forum rawfood , Donna Chapman <donnaichapman wrote: > > My advise would be not to worry about it. When I first started on raw food I lost 40lbs in less than 3 weeks (my skinny pants were real loose so I weighed) It was awesome and there was no extra skin flabbing around. It will surprise you how much our bods take care of them selves when we give them proper nutrients. > > graywitchrn <runestar1 wrote: Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the > rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I > have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have > any usefull advice? thanks Karen > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Karen, I have been Raw for about a year now. I also let go of 120#s in the last year, yes mostly from my Raw Food experience. Letting go and changing my body was a choice NOT (emphasis for a reason), NOT because I decided to change my diet to raw foods. It is a fact that people can choose to eat raw and NOT let go of wieght and I've met people and heard stories about people who even gain wieght. I lost wieght rather rapidly, though safely and was very concerned about the loose skin issues. You might notice in many boards that I had posted a similar question to yours sometime late last summer - after about 60 pounds had left me... I didn't get any substantial answers, much support and many others expressing a similar concern. Here's what I've found through research: If we are obese, we have stretched our body and skin tightly for quite a period of time, most often for years. Skin tends to be like an elastic band - stretch it tightly for a long period of time and it stays stretched. (Don't worry yet!) Fortunately making the choice to eat raw foods, gives our stretched skin nutrients that it needs to repair itself. We are now giving it more water, more fresh air & sunshine, more movement (walking is great as is rebounding or just playing outside). Because of the healthy stuff we are now giving our bodies, the skin has more of a chance of repairing it's stretched appearance. I have been encouraged to wait 2 years, letting my body repair itself and then to evaluate what progress or stage my body is at. It may present an personal, emotional issue this summer when wearing less clothes would let more people view the changes my body is making. Though I do have some loose skin, I do not see ugly. I have some wrinkles in the looseness around my inner thighs, upper arms and belly area --- NOT nearly what I imagined NOR nearly as bad as I have seen from others who lost tremendous amounts of wieght quickly using other methods. I'm pretty happy with my body at this stage. I do think (OPINION) that stimulating the lymph glands and learning to look at and love my body by dry brushing often before bathing and learning to just massage & feel my body, I do think that this has helped both my perception as well as the physical manifestation of my body. I am very open about my process and am available online or by phone, just contact me off the group. I will share whatever I can. Encouragement and support are VERY important on this path. As is learning how to use your intuition and then following through by using it. That said - take what you need and leave the rest - Keep it Simple Sweetie - use what you already have - less is more - only keep in your homes what you consider to be beautiful or useful... (in my opinion all great quotes, from great ppl) Simply, Lesa rawfood , " graywitchrn " <runestar1 wrote: > > Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the > rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I > have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have > any usefull advice? thanks Karen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Thank you for the insight, and to the others who responded with the same reassurances. (about weight loss and hang loose skin) So I will just allow the process to take place and continue to work on getting the best raw food diet into my body, and not worry so much thanks again RuneStar, who plays with fire Embrace the Mystical and Wait for Extraordinary Things to Happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 wow I have never heard anyone losing that much weight in such a short time! Was that just from going raw? Were you exercising a lot? Donna Chapman <donnaichapman wrote: My advise would be not to worry about it. When I first started on raw food I lost 40lbs in less than 3 weeks (my skinny pants were real loose so I weighed) It was awesome and there was no extra skin flabbing around. It will surprise you how much our bods take care of them selves when we give them proper nutrients. graywitchrn <runestar1 wrote: Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have any usefull advice? thanks Karen Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'm also very new to eating raw... only about 1 week. I haven't ventured into sprouting, dehydrating, juicing, and blending (basically, most ways to prepare food!). Basically, here's what I've been doing: Breakfast: Piece of fruit Mid-Morning Snack: Piece of fruit Lunch: Piece of fruit, Salad (usually just lettuce with a dressing) Mid-Afternoon: Piece of fruit Dinner: Several salads and a small serving of meat (sorry, I know this group is vegan, but I'm not, and I have a ton of meat still in the freezer). So basically, I am 80%-90% raw, mostly by just eating fruit and salads. I have tried going to my local gourmet market, but their fruit has recently been kind of crappy. I decided to go to Price Chopper (a supermarket in the northeast) and found they have a nice variety of fruits and veggies, and it was all relatively inexpensive... and much less expensive than junkfood. Here's some simple options I have been preparing, of which all ingredients can be baught at the supermarket. The only tools I have are a knife, a mini food processor, and a mandolin. -Multi-Veggie Cole Slaw: Julienne cabbage, onions, peppers, carrots, cucumbers, etc... any fresh veggies you like that are on hand. Add mayo (I haven't tried a homemade recipe, but I will soon), vinegar, some lemon juice, salt, and pepper. This slaw is yummy, with lots of texture and is not sweet like most slaws. -Mashed " potatoes " : Puree cauliflower in a food processor. Add mayo, salt and pepper (I also added some cheese I had left over, but you could try a raw cheese substitute). It is VERY yummy. A head is enough for two huge portions, or 3 or 4 smaller servings. -Veggies salad: Add diced onion, diced tomatoes, corn, asparagus, etc. Add your favorite italian dressing. -Beet Salad: Dice beets and onions. Mix with lemon juice, salt, pepper, and some fresh herbs such as basil. The flavor is mild and sweet enough that my little sister asks for it every time she's over! -Tomatoe Salad: Add italian dressing to chopped tomatoes, onions, and cucmbers. Let marinade for at least 30 minutes. -Salad dressings: Take a tip from Rachel Ray and try making your own. You need extra virgin olive oil, seasonings or flavorings, and an acid. Try using cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar, lemon juice, orange juice, etc. for the acid. Puree fresh or dehydrated herbs, veggies, or just salt and pepper into the acid and oil. Get creative, and make a different dressing every day of the week. I figure another week or so and I'll start venturing into the world of more complex meals. Until then, I'm just experimenting with veggies. Jenn rawfood , " l_doc_223 " <irishdoc223 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > i am new to this group. i am really trying to start living a raw > food way. however, i am struggling. i bought a book and been > online, and i just need some guidance as to where i should begin. > where can you buy these foods? at a regular food store or somewhere > special? Please help me! Thanks > Lara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 wow is right! When i lost, my skin hung like an elephant. I gained again. Depressed over my flabby sag. Maybe Its genetics. --- rawfood <pablobully wrote: > wow I have never heard anyone losing that much weight in such a short time! Was that just from going raw? Were you exercising a lot? > > Donna Chapman <donnaichapman wrote: My advise would be not to worry about it. When I first started on raw food I lost 40lbs in less than 3 weeks (my skinny pants were real loose so I weighed) It was awesome and there was no extra skin flabbing around. It will surprise you how much our bods take care of them selves when we give them proper nutrients. > > graywitchrn <runestar1 wrote: Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the > rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I > have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have > any usefull advice? thanks Karen > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Terry Lynn Bakhtiari > May God bless you > Today and always. > www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Everybody's got a little light under the sun! Parliament Funkadelic! ______________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 That was the year that I had discovered the mini trampolene and also we had about 3 ft of snow and the temp got down to 40 below, freezing all our pipes except in the well house, so I was hauling water with 2 five gallon buckets for awhile and when that froze shoveling and melting snow. (do you know it takes 15 buckets of snow melted to wash one load of poopy diapers?) Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: wow I have never heard anyone losing that much weight in such a short time! Was that just from going raw? Were you exercising a lot? Donna Chapman <donnaichapman wrote: My advise would be not to worry about it. When I first started on raw food I lost 40lbs in less than 3 weeks (my skinny pants were real loose so I weighed) It was awesome and there was no extra skin flabbing around. It will surprise you how much our bods take care of them selves when we give them proper nutrients. graywitchrn <runestar1 wrote: Hi I'm new like 2 days old to rawfood, but I'm worried that with the rapid weight loss my size will shrink, but my skin will not, then I have all this loosse skin hanging off me, thats icky, does anyone have any usefull advice? thanks Karen Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Shay Butter wrote: > wow is right! When i lost, my skin hung like an > elephant. I gained again. Depressed over my flabby > sag. Maybe Its genetics. What do you all think about this theory? http://www.bodyfatguide.com/LooseSkin.htm It makes quite a bit of sense. Ariannah in Nova Scotia -- Personal Blog: http://ec.lecti.ca 43Things page: http://www.43things.com/person/knittingchick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 That is an amazing story! I lost 50 lbs and I too have sought advice re loose skin without any response. Do you have some pictures to share? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 What you substitute for eggs depends on whether they are being used as a binder or as a leavening agent. So it will vary from recipe to recipe. There are lots of bread recipes that don't use eggs. Here is a quick search: http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en & client=google-coop & cof=CX%3AFatfree%2520Veget\ arian%2520Recipes%3B & q=whole+wheat+bread+-egg & btnG=Search & cx=0161705675481403518\ 68%3A2shqxntidru Pam On 5/2/07, Lady ThunderHorse <veganmeals wrote: > > in recipes r there any subistuites for eggs ? Any one have from scratch > recipes for whole wheat bread ? LTH > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 > in recipes r there any subistuites for eggs ? Pam has a point - depends on what you want the 'eggs' to do. For leavening, I use an Egg Replacer - it is in powder form and you simply use as directed on the pack. One box lasts me forever. My brand is Kingsmill. For binding, I follow the recipe below as posted by one of our members, Maida, back in 2005 (It was in the 'Fakes' folder in the Recipes file on our homepage.). FLAX 'EGGS " For each " egg " 1 Tbs ground flax seeds 3 Tbs water 1 tsp soy lecithin Mix all ingredients in a food processor until frothy and gooey. Chilling the mixture adds to the effect. Flax eggs very nicely mimic the binding properties of eggs. Does that help? Love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Posted by: " Lady ThunderHorse " veganmeals veganmeals Wed May 2, 2007 10:33 am (PST) in recipes r there any subistuites for eggs ? Any one have from scratch recipes for whole wheat bread ? LTH ------------ --------- --------- --- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. My DH loves to bake bread. He's used this recipe several times and it's turned out marvelous (except for one time when he didn't bake it long enough and even then it wasn't so bad): http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=5707 Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I used box recipes but trying to get back with REAL HOMEMADE FROM the garden food . So whats the difference ? What does leavening mean ? Sorry almost nearly raised to luxury fast food s-tryong to get back to my ancesters . LTH Pat <drpatsant wrote: > in recipes r there any subistuites for eggs ? Pam has a point - depends on what you want the 'eggs' to do. For leavening, I use an Egg Replacer - it is in powder form and you simply use as directed on the pack. One box lasts me forever. My brand is Kingsmill. For binding, I follow the recipe below as posted by one of our members, Maida, back in 2005 (It was in the 'Fakes' folder in the Recipes file on our homepage.). FLAX 'EGGS " For each " egg " 1 Tbs ground flax seeds 3 Tbs water 1 tsp soy lecithin Mix all ingredients in a food processor until frothy and gooey. Chilling the mixture adds to the effect. Flax eggs very nicely mimic the binding properties of eggs. Does that help? Love, Pat Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Im trying to not eat meat and stuff related . Hows does one cmpletely avoid it when u crave it and like milk eggs what do u don what do u eat/drink and still get the vitiams instead ? LTH Pat <drpatsant wrote: > in recipes r there any subistuites for eggs ? Pam has a point - depends on what you want the 'eggs' to do. For leavening, I use an Egg Replacer - it is in powder form and you simply use as directed on the pack. One box lasts me forever. My brand is Kingsmill. For binding, I follow the recipe below as posted by one of our members, Maida, back in 2005 (It was in the 'Fakes' folder in the Recipes file on our homepage.). FLAX 'EGGS " For each " egg " 1 Tbs ground flax seeds 3 Tbs water 1 tsp soy lecithin Mix all ingredients in a food processor until frothy and gooey. Chilling the mixture adds to the effect. Flax eggs very nicely mimic the binding properties of eggs. Does that help? Love, Pat Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I used the recipe for falafel that's in Vegan With a Vengeance today and the patties totally disintegrated into the oil. Does anyone know what I did wrong? The dough is the consistency of thick hummus. Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Hi Patricia I have made falafels from about three different recipes, with the same problem. I have also made other types of burger/pate, which disintegrate when I fry them. I have found the best thing to do is put them on a baking tray, brush with oil, and cook in the oven. Jo , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote: > > I used the recipe for falafel that's in Vegan With a Vengeance today and the patties totally disintegrated into the oil. Does anyone know what I did wrong? The dough is the consistency of thick hummus. > > Patricia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:54:43 -0800 (PST) Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote: > I used the recipe for falafel that's in Vegan With a > Vengeance today and the patties totally disintegrated > into the oil. Does anyone know what I did wrong? The > dough is the consistency of thick hummus. Most of the time that something like that happens to me when attempting to fry any kind of breading, it's because the oil isn't hot enough. The worst thing I've seen, not exactly on-topic here, is salmon and tuna patties. Unless the oil is quite hot, they fall completely apart in the oil and all you end up with is very lumpy and gritty cooking oil. I think that anything mealy will tend to do that. More moisture to make it less mealy might help. Most people I know use peanut oil for such things so they can bring it to a higher temperature. I try to avoid peanut oil because I'm allergic to peanuts even though I know that highly processed commercial peanut oils are usually safe for most people with peanut allergies. In comparison, something that isn't mealy doesn't seem to fall apart much, if at all. For example, one of my favorites is to cut okra (when I have some fresh okra) into 1/4 inch slices, and mix with a batter made with flour, water, and baking soda, about the thickness or a bit thicker than a good pancake batter. Drop the okra and batter in about 1/4 to 1/3 cup amounts into hot oil and cook. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Will they be crisp on the outside if i do that?Patricia--- On Wed, 3/3/10, heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:heartwerk <jo.heartwork Re: Help Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 11:48 PMHi PatriciaI have made falafels from about three different recipes, with the same problem. I have also made other types of burger/pate, which disintegrate when I fry them. I have found the best thing to do is put them on a baking tray, brush with oil, and cook in the oven.Jo , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote:>> I used the recipe for falafel that's in Vegan With a Vengeance today and the patties totally disintegrated into the oil. Does anyone know what I did wrong? The dough is the consistency of thick hummus.> > Patricia>---To send an email to -! Groups Links<*> /<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: /join ( ID required)<*> To change settings via email: -digest -fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 They haven't been when I have done them, although I guess you could cook them longer. At least they are in one piece! Jo , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote: > > Will they be crisp on the outside if i do that? > > Patricia > > --- On Wed, 3/3/10, heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork > Re: Help > > Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 11:48 PM > > Hi Patricia > > I have made falafels from about three different recipes, with the same problem. I have also made other types of burger/pate, which disintegrate when I fry them. I have found the best thing to do is put them on a baking tray, brush with oil, and cook in the oven. > > Jo > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote: > > > > I used the recipe for falafel that's in Vegan With a Vengeance today and the patties totally disintegrated into the oil. Does anyone know what I did wrong? The dough is the consistency of thick hummus. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > --- > > To send an email to -! Groups Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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