Guest guest Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I don't know if this group can help me or if I'm allowed to ask this.... I am insulin dependant diabetic and not totally vegetarian (yet) I have been diagnosed with a high potassium level. The potassium reduced diet takes away a LOT from my diabetic diet. On one you eat lots of veggies and the other (potassium) the vegetables are very limited. Has anybody else run into this problem and what did you eat that kept you satisfied? Thanks for allowing me to post this letter. Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:51 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) " Gabbi Sweet " <aligabbi wrote: > I am insulin dependant diabetic and not totally vegetarian > (yet) > > I have been diagnosed with a high potassium level. > > The potassium reduced diet takes away a LOT from my diabetic > diet. On one you eat lots of veggies and the other > (potassium) the vegetables are very limited. > > Has anybody else run into this problem and what did you eat > that kept you satisfied? Not being familiar with a diet to reduce a high potassium level, I found this with Google. http://www.stronghealth.com/services/primarycare/pdf/potasiumrestrict.pdf Is this similar to your diet? I can see how this could present a problem. For me, the beans and nuts restrictions would make me miserable -- two of my favorite foods/ingredients. How about grains? There are many you can do with the large variety of whole grains available if grains don't have much impact on the diet. I wonder if it is possible to grow vegetables in such a way as to limit the amounts of potassium. Would hydrophically grown vegetables have the same levels of potassium as vegetables grown in soil? Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:14:36 -0500 Eric <local_maxima wrote: > I wonder if it is possible to grow vegetables in such a way as > to limit the amounts of potassium. Would hydrophically grown > vegetables have the same levels of potassium as vegetables > grown in soil? Oops. That should have been " hydroponically " , not " hydrophically " . I don't even know if " hydrophically " is even a word. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:14:36 -0500 Eric <local_maxima wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:51 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) > " Gabbi Sweet " <aligabbi wrote: > > > I have been diagnosed with a high potassium level. > > > > The potassium reduced diet takes away a LOT from my diabetic > > diet. On one you eat lots of veggies and the other > > (potassium) the vegetables are very limited. > > > > Has anybody else run into this problem and what did you eat > > that kept you satisfied? > > I wonder if it is possible to grow vegetables in such a way as > to limit the amounts of potassium. Would [hydroponically] > grown vegetables have the same levels of potassium as > vegetables grown in soil? Out of curiousity about whether or not it is possible to grow a low potassium vegetable in a hydroponic garden, I did some searching on the web this morning and found this https://id209.chi.us.securedata.net/~greenacreshydro/hydroponics-garden-nutrient\ s.php Potassium (K) provides general enhancement of cell production. A potassium deficiency will occur in older leaves first with yellow blotches and in severe cases, dead spots will occur. Branches and stems will weaken and eventually becomes brittle. Flowering and fruiting is diminished and yields are low and in poor quality. So you would need at least a certain level of potassium in the water. It might be possible (which means I have no idea) that if you reduce the amount of potassium, the density of potassium might not change much since the yields themselves will be diminished. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hi, you don't say how strict your low potassium diet is, but the link Eric posted (as below) http://www.stronghealth.com/services/primarycare/pdf/potasiumrestrict.pdf makes eating vegetarian look pretty restrictive - unless your diet is less severe? Let's see: Four half-cup servings of fruit and (presumably cooked) veg a day, chosen from what's left after ruling out the no-nos on the list, is pretty tough for a vegetarian, but perhaps it can be done. Low glycemic (because of your diabetes) grains are possible with those, and you can do some pretty awesome things with freshly ground spices (heh heh) to ring the changes on those dishes. I see brown rice paella as one way of having those veggies. You can make a veg pilaf out of a number of grains. And of course there's the veg curry or stew on grain, wholegrain toast, or pasta. You could perhaps put the half cup of milk a day to excellent use as yoghurt to make some of those dishes or their sauces a little more creamy. Brown rice or whole wheat pasta - or quinoa pasta or any number of other interesting grains that are used these days to make noodles would be good too - tossed with half a cup of vegetables and the right herbs - yum. And I don't see eggs on the list, so perhaps you could include those? (Apologies to my fellow vegans, but this IS a veggie group.) Think of the lovely omelettes, quiches (with or without a crust) you can make. Oh hey, I think I see a whole new world opening up for you here So let us know what you _can_ eat and we'll try to come up with some ideas for you, okay? All the very best of luck with this. You can do it! Pat (Co-owner with Piers) > > I am insulin dependant diabetic and not totally vegetarian > > (yet) > > > > I have been diagnosed with a high potassium level. > > > > The potassium reduced diet takes away a LOT from my diabetic > > diet. On one you eat lots of veggies and the other > > (potassium) the vegetables are very limited. > > > > Has anybody else run into this problem and what did you eat > > that kept you satisfied? > > Not being familiar with a diet to reduce a high potassium > level, I found this with Google. > > http://www.stronghealth.com/services/primarycare/pdf/potasiumrestrict.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hi Pat I must have replied directly to Eric...sorry it didn't go thru the group. The link Eric sent for a low potassium diet is exactly what my doctor gave to me. I prefer fresh veggies over frozen and I feel I'm going to the store every couple of days. Being diabetic, I am supposed to fill half my plate with veggies, and limit fruit. I was told by the doctor to avoid natural grains in bread and to eat the starched white stuff. Yuck. Loss of grains also limits me. I (close your eyes here) do eat some meat and eggs. Tonight I had a pork chop the size of a small bar of soap. Tasted like it too! High potassium leads to heart flutters and weakness and my blood pressure is perfect but my heart is running well over 100 and shouldn't be above 60. I crave salt and that is also on my no-no list. The doctor has ordered me to go on water pills to see if that helps lower the potassium as well. I'll be staying all weekend. LOL! I'm going to go and check out the food files again. This may be a good opportunity to try out some new recipes. I love spicy food and could live in an East Indian restaurant! Two veggies I really love are eggplant and cauliflower and they are not on the list. Thanks for the ideas! Alice ---- Pat 5/6/2010 3:12:04 PM Re: Looking for more info Hi, you don't say how strict your low potassium diet is, but the link Eric posted (as below) http://www.stronghealth.com/services/primarycare/pdf/potasiumrestrict.pdf makes eating vegetarian look pretty restrictive - unless your diet is less severe? Let's see: Four half-cup servings of fruit and (presumably cooked) veg a day chosen from what's left after ruling out the no-nos on the list, is pretty tough for a vegetarian, but perhaps it can be done. Low glycemic (because of your diabetes) grains are possible with those, and you can do some pretty awesome things with freshly ground spices (heh heh) to ring the changes on those dishes. I see brown rice paella as one way of having those veggies. You can make a veg pilaf out of a number of grains. And of course there's the veg curry or stew on grain, wholegrain toast, or pasta. You could perhaps put the half cup of milk a day to excellent use as yoghurt to make some of those dishes or their sauces a little more creamy. Brown rice or whole wheat pasta - or quinoa pasta or any number of other interesting grains that are used these days to make noodles would be good too - tossed with half a cup of vegetables and the right herbs - yum. And I don't see eggs on the list, so perhaps you could include those? (Apologies to my fellow vegans, but this IS a veggie group.) Think of the lovely omelettes, quiches (with or without a crust) you can make. Oh hey, I think I see a whole new world opening up for you here So let us know what you _can_ eat and we'll try to come up with some ideas for you, okay? All the very best of luck with this. You can do it! Pat (Co-owner with Piers) > > I am insulin dependant diabetic and not totally vegetarian > > (yet) > > > > I have been diagnosed with a high potassium level. > > > > The potassium reduced diet takes away a LOT from my diabetic > > diet. On one you eat lots of veggies and the other > > (potassium) the vegetables are very limited. > > > > Has anybody else run into this problem and what did you eat > > that kept you satisfied? > > Not being familiar with a diet to reduce a high potassium > level, I found this with Google. > > http://www.stronghealth.com/services/primarycare/pdf/potasiumrestrict.pdf --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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