Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 In a message dated 8/3/00 8:34:04 AM Central Daylight Time, vegans writes: << Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered mint pies..mmmm. >> Thanks for the tip! I have wondered if those were any good. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 I was just going to post also that Soy Delicious has a great chocolate mint brownie ice cream sandwich. It is so awesome. My husband has only been vegan for about six monthes so he still remembers what real dairy tastes like and he thinks the sandwiches are awesome. Tofutti has some good frozen snacks also. Natalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 In a message dated 8/3/00 6:34:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vegans writes: << Hi all, Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered mint pies..mmmm. You don't have to give up the wonderful taste of ice cream when (and if) you become vegan. Caroline >> Soy delicious is delicious! Tofutti, in my opinion, is the closest thing to *real* ice cream, it just has a lot more fat! Sara Proud to be Colin's Attached Mommy Since December 7,1999 **A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf!** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 Hi all, Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered mint pies..mmmm. You don't have to give up the wonderful taste of ice cream when (and if) you become vegan. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 > << Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) > that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish > desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered > mint pies..mmmm. >> > > Thanks for the tip! I have wondered if those were any good. > > Tracey yes, the Rice Dream Pies are wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 I do not know what to think of white sugar. I have contradicting info. I have a friend whose father is somehow involved in sugar business. He told her that they did not use bone to process the sugar. We did try to eliminate as much hidden animal products from our lives as possible but sometimes I do not know what to believe. We do what we can and every bit helps. We have drastically reduced out photo quantities and stopped buying anything tested on animals. But the next step for us would be a hard one (everyone in our family is totally addicted to Tofutti everything). natalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 True - Tofutti has some great stuff but we don't use any of their products with " sugar " as an ingredient. Which, for us, rules out 3 of their best products: Better than Cream Cheese, Better than Sour Cream, and Tofutti Cuties. The reason we don't use their products containing sugar is because when doing product research for our online store (we try to get only the strictest vegan stuff) they sent us a letter admitting they assume their sugar has been filtered through bone char. The letter said they cater to the lactose intolerant consumer - I took that to mean bone char is not an issue for them. Of course, there is no actual bone char in the final product, but some people follow strictly vegan guidelines and need to know this information. They did point out that they make many other products with different sweeteners such as corn syrup and fruit juice and we do use some of these. They recently came out with some " mozzarella " slices (no casein) which are pretty good! Now, I hope everyone is reading this as FYI - I am not trying to badmouth Tofutti or scare anyone away from their products. Just passing along some information..... Peace! Caroline natjones11 wrote: > I was just going to post also that Soy Delicious has a great chocolate mint > brownie ice cream sandwich. It is so awesome. My husband has only been > vegan for about six monthes so he still remembers what real dairy tastes like > and he thinks the sandwiches are awesome. Tofutti has some good frozen > snacks also. > > Natalie > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 Soy Delicious almond pecan is great! Lisa - <TFreyre Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:37 AM Re: who can resist ice cream? > In a message dated 8/3/00 8:34:04 AM Central Daylight Time, > vegans writes: > > << Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) > that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish > desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered > mint pies..mmmm. >> > > Thanks for the tip! I have wondered if those were any good. > > Tracey > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 For many years the sugar industry used bone char in the processing of turning natural sugar to white sugar. Many processors no longer use this process, but many still do. The problem is that you can rarely find out which type was used in what products. Phil Welsher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 I haven't seen anyone mention Swedish Glace - which is *almost* as good as Tofutti!!! S.G. comes in Chocolate, Strawberry and Vanilla, and is FANTASTIC... ) Sheri hoper on 08/03/2000 03:42:38 PM Please respond to cc: (bcc: Sheri Hearn/Providence/EALaw) Re: who can resist ice cream? Soy Delicious almond pecan is great! Lisa - <TFreyre Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:37 AM Re: who can resist ice cream? > In a message dated 8/3/00 8:34:04 AM Central Daylight Time, > vegans writes: > > << Just a reminder (not trying to offend anyone or change anyone's mind) > that Rice Dream and Soy Delicious make many, MANY wonderful ice-creamish > desserts in many wonderful flavors and novelties like Chocolate covered > mint pies..mmmm. >> > > Thanks for the tip! I have wondered if those were any good. > > Tracey > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 In a message dated 8/4/00 4:38:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, natjones11 writes: << But the next step for us would be a hard one (everyone in our family is totally addicted to Tofutti everything). >> Natalie, I know where you are coming from, we love Tofutti. I gave up animal products mainly for the animals and honestly, I missed stuff like sour cream and ice cream. Most of the soy replacements just can't cut it for us, but the tofutti is the closest thing to tasting like dairy without being dairy. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 In a message dated 8/4/00 10:49:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shearn writes: << I haven't seen anyone mention Swedish Glace - which is *almost* as good as Tofutti!!! S.G. comes in Chocolate, Strawberry and Vanilla, and is FANTASTIC... ) Sheri >> I have never heard of it nor have I seen it or I would try it. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2000 Report Share Posted August 7, 2000 Hi Sara and all - you can find nutrition/availability/flavor and all kinds of other info about Swedish Glace at www.swedishglace.com - It's sooooooo GOOD!!! I'd love to hear if anyone else has tried it and what your thoughts are!! And I agree with everyone about Tofutti - all their products are DELICIOUS, I especially love the french onion 'cream cheese' - mmmmmmmm!!! Also, I just got this posting from another list I'm on about some incredible vegan baked goods on-line: Message: 1 Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:43:54 -0400 Vegetarian Resource Center <vrc Organic Vegan Baked Goods Online! Hello! I am writing about a new business called Simple Treats, that sells vegan cookies online, and they are absolutely delicious! Simple Treats is a vegan baked goods business that uses all organic ingredients, whole grain flours, and no refined sugar. Check out our website at www.simpletreats.com pitasara on 08/05/2000 07:36:24 AM Please respond to cc: (bcc: Sheri Hearn/Providence/EALaw) Re: who can resist ice cream? In a message dated 8/4/00 10:49:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shearn writes: << I haven't seen anyone mention Swedish Glace - which is *almost* as good as Tofutti!!! S.G. comes in Chocolate, Strawberry and Vanilla, and is FANTASTIC... ) Sheri >> I have never heard of it nor have I seen it or I would try it. Sara For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2000 Report Share Posted August 7, 2000 I haven't ever seen Swedish Glace, either. Where do you buy it? (if in the US?) Trin Seattle, Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 Hi all - I'm in Rhode Island, and have bought it here in RI, and also in MA and NH... the website tells you how to have Swedish Glace come to your area - check it out! www.swedishglace.com ) Sheri trinanddave on 08/07/2000 06:34:02 PM Please respond to cc: (bcc: Sheri Hearn/Providence/EALaw) Re: who can resist ice cream? I haven't ever seen Swedish Glace, either. Where do you buy it? (if in the US?) Trin Seattle, Washington For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2000 Report Share Posted August 10, 2000 I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using white sugar, Tofutti uses genetically modified soy beans. My favorite is frozen bananas in the blender with nuts and carob powder. It's just like soft serve ice cream! Erika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 7:13:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, erika writes: << I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using white sugar, Tofutti uses genetically modified soy beans. My favorite is frozen bananas in the blender with nuts and carob powder. It's just like soft serve ice cream! >> That sounds great, Erika! Got to try it...! The other thing with the Tofutti brand is the content of soy protein, natural flavors - sources of MSG?! And sometimes partially hydrated oils... Well, I guess, vegetarian means basically no meat and that's it...?!? I have to admit that I find most processed vegetarian foods (especially those fake meats etc) contain one or more " nasty " ingredients - but of course that's just me...:-) Check out www.truthinlabeling.org for a list of products that contain MSG, if you get a chance. Gabriela, in sunny FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 6:20:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, akilubaida writes: << > I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using white sugar, Tofutti > uses genetically modified soy beans. > > My favorite is frozen bananas in the blender with nuts and carob powder. > It's just like soft serve ice cream! > > Erika > >> If you do the same thing with a Champion Juicer (with the blank attachment inserted) it comes out like velvety soft and fluffy Dairy Queen. You might wish to check out our website for more info on resources, all some of the valuable health info under articles. gc www.all-creatures.org/cb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Erika, How did u find that out? Thanks. Akil - Erika & OfeK <erika Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:50 PM RE: who can resist ice cream? > I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using white sugar, Tofutti > uses genetically modified soy beans. > > My favorite is frozen bananas in the blender with nuts and carob powder. > It's just like soft serve ice cream! > > Erika > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 Hello everybody! My name is Irene, 42 year old Italian-Greek, living in Greece, with Egyptian husband and two children, boy 7 and girl 3. I have been a vegetarian for twelve years now, so the children are too. I have not become vegan yet, 1) because social life in Greece is hell as it is, without dairy it would be even more, and 2)because I don't approve substitutes, and I have serious information that precipitated soy products such as soy milk and tofu are dangerous to health. (Read the article " Concerns regarding soybeans " at : http://www.mercola.com , the article A New Look At The Soybean Still Great--but not a Panacea by Charles R. Attwood, M.D., F.A.A.P. at http://www.vegsource.org/attwood/ , the report IS THERE REASON TO BELIEVE TOFU MAY CAUSE BRAIN ATROPHY? by Ian Williams Goddard at http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm (Goddard is a vegetarian!) and also the more technical articles at http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html and http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lab/1580/cycle.html I also don't like the idea of over-processed, industrialized foods, and most ready-made substitutes are just that. There are many vegan recipes in our part of the world that are eaten at Lent (the 40 days before Easter). If you take out the fish recipes, all the rest fit the bill perfectly. So what I do is use such normal, natural recipes,with no substitutes, try to cut out dairy as much as possible, but leave a little so I don't have to use soy. I have also started the brainwashing of the children, especially my son, explaining why milk is bad for you. They both love it, and to tell you the truth, if I had to let myself free, I would say that cookies with milk and cocoa is a great thing that I would badly miss. Even now I miss it, because I'm on a diet, but this is another thing... My biggest problem is how to make our morning muesli with no milk and no soy milk. I have tried it with water, and put plenty of nuts and raisins inside to make it palatable, the poor kids do eat it, but objectively speaking it is pitiful. I cannot understand how the English eat porridge, which is just oats and water, and maybe some sugar (I don't use sugar or other sweeteners unless really very necessary, for health reasons). I've tried fruit juice, but it is not satisfactory either. The acidity of fruit does not marry well with the taste of the cereals. Then I tried mashed fruit pulp, from juicy, very ripe pears. It worked much much better than juice. Another great product I found was something called Millmilk. It's made of oats and water, and it has a great taste. They have a website, http://www.millmilk.com from which I'm copying the product info: Mill Milk is based on a Swedish tradition of cereal consumption that goes back hundreds of years, and combines natural ingredients from mother nature in a patented process. It combines the nutritional goodness of oats with the benefit of rapeseed oil (canola oil), into a unique and versatile dairy alternative that is heat stable, and ideal for your daily routine of cooking and baking. You can enjoy Mill Milk in your tea or coffee and also on breakfast cereals, or you can simply enjoy it straight from the carton. Currently there are two different unflavoured versions: a Full-Fibre version sold in Europe, and a fibre-reduced version, the Original Unflavoured/Classic, sold in the USA, Europe, Singapore and Australia. Since the 1st of September 1998 there are also two flavoured versions available on the market, Vanilla and Chocolate. They are now being sold in Europe and Singapore All Mill Milk-products are made from oats, rapeseed oil (canola oil) and artesian spring water, and therefore 100% non-dairy, No lactose, Low sodium,No cholesterol . It has high amounts of proteins, and a superior amino acid balance compared with other cereals. It has high amounts of iron and magnesium. It has high amounts of vitamin E, which is good for the skin for example. You can replace dairy milk and cream with Oat Drink in both cooking and baking - but you can´t whip it like cream. If the recipe says 1 dl milk, you take 1 dl Oat Drink instead. Oat Drink is heat stable and very easy to use! This is the page for the nutrition facts: http://www.millmilk.com/frameproduct.htm and there are also some recipes which look nice. (By this time you will think my uncle runs the company!!!) By reading all your posts-and those on other lists, I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, since it is available in the U.S. Irene - Yodeldi Re: who can resist ice cream? In a message dated 8/14/00 7:13:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, erika writes: << I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using white sugar, Tofutti uses genetically modified soy beans.>> The other thing with the Tofutti brand is the content of soy protein, natural flavors - sources of MSG?! And sometimes partially hydrated oils... Well, I guess, vegetarian means basically no meat and that's it...?!? I have to admit that I find most processed vegetarian foods (especially those fake meats etc) contain one or more " nasty " ingredients - but of course that's just me...:-) Check out www.truthinlabeling.org for a list of products that contain MSG, if you get a chance. Gabriela, in sunny FL For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 Hi, welcome to the group. Have you tried rice milk? There are a couple of other varieties of " Milks " I have seen but not tried, like the one made with oats you mentioned, and one made from potatoes. Summer , " ?rene Maradei " <tancredi@o...> wrote: > Hello everybody! > My name is Irene, 42 year old Italian-Greek, living in Greece, with Egyptian > husband and two children, boy 7 and girl 3. I have been a vegetarian for > twelve years now, so the children are too. > I have not become vegan yet, > 1) because social life in Greece is hell as it is, without dairy it would be > even more, and > 2)because I don't approve substitutes, and I have serious information that > precipitated soy products such as soy milk and tofu are dangerous to health. > (Read the article " Concerns regarding soybeans " at : http://www.mercola.com > , the article A New Look At The Soybean Still Great--but not a Panacea by > Charles R. Attwood, M.D., F.A.A.P. at http://www.vegsource.org/attwood/ , > the report IS THERE REASON TO BELIEVE TOFU MAY CAUSE BRAIN ATROPHY? by Ian > Williams Goddard > at http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm (Goddard is a vegetarian!) and > also the more technical articles at > http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html and > http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lab/1580/cycle.html > > I also don't like the idea of over-processed, industrialized foods, and most > ready-made substitutes are just that. > > There are many vegan recipes in our part of the world that are eaten at Lent > (the 40 days before Easter). If you take out the fish recipes, all the rest > fit the bill perfectly. So what I do is use such normal, natural > recipes,with no substitutes, try to cut out dairy as much as possible, but > leave a > little so I don't have to use soy. I have also started the brainwashing of > the children, especially > my son, explaining why milk is bad for you. They both love it, and to tell > you the truth, if I had to let myself free, I would say that cookies with > milk and cocoa is a great thing that I would badly miss. Even now I miss it, > because I'm on a diet, but this is another thing... > > My biggest problem is how to make our morning muesli with no milk and no soy > milk. I have tried it with water, and put plenty of nuts and raisins inside > to make it palatable, the poor kids do eat it, but objectively speaking it > is pitiful. I cannot understand how the English eat porridge, which is just > oats and water, and maybe some sugar (I don't use sugar or other sweeteners > unless really very necessary, for health reasons). I've tried fruit juice, > but it is not satisfactory either. The acidity of fruit does not marry well > with the taste of the cereals. Then I tried mashed fruit pulp, from juicy, > very ripe pears. It worked much much better than juice. > > Another great product I found was something called Millmilk. It's made of > oats and water, and it has a great taste. They have a website, > http://www.millmilk.com from > which I'm copying the product info: > > Mill Milk is based on a Swedish tradition of cereal consumption that goes > back hundreds of years, and combines natural ingredients from mother nature > in a patented process. It combines the nutritional goodness of oats with the > benefit of rapeseed oil (canola oil), into a unique and versatile dairy > alternative that is heat stable, and ideal for your daily routine of cooking > and baking. You can enjoy Mill Milk in your tea or coffee and also on > breakfast cereals, or you can simply enjoy it straight from the carton. > Currently there are two different unflavoured versions: a Full- Fibre version > sold in Europe, and a fibre-reduced version, the Original > Unflavoured/Classic, sold in the USA, Europe, Singapore and Australia. Since > the 1st of September 1998 there are also two flavoured versions available on > the market, Vanilla and Chocolate. They are now being sold in Europe and > Singapore All Mill Milk-products are made from oats, rapeseed oil (canola > oil) and artesian spring water, and therefore 100% non-dairy, No lactose, > Low sodium,No cholesterol . It has high amounts of proteins, and a superior > amino acid balance compared with other cereals. It has high amounts of iron > and magnesium. It has high amounts of vitamin E, which is good for the skin > for example. You can replace dairy milk and cream with Oat Drink in both > cooking and baking - but you can´t whip it like cream. If the recipe says 1 > dl milk, you take 1 dl Oat Drink instead. Oat Drink is heat stable and very > easy to use! > This is the page for the nutrition facts: > http://www.millmilk.com/frameproduct.htm and there are also some recipes > which look nice. > (By this time you will think my uncle runs the company!!!) By reading all > your posts-and those on other lists, I was wondering why nobody mentioned > it, since it is available in the U.S. > > > > Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Irene, you can also make your own almond milk, or a richer version, cashew milk... I don't recall the quantities, but it's just nuts, finely ground, then mixed in a blender with water. Delicious and rich. I keep quantities of raw nuts in the freezer for this. I know this is a vegetarian list, but I am so thankful to see others who are also making the effort to eat more naturally, not just avoid meat & dairy. We eat no sugar or white flour, and avoid processed foods, and sometimes I feel very alone! Karen > > ?rene Maradei [tancredi] > Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:15 AM > > Re: who can resist ice cream? > > > Hello everybody! > My name is Irene, 42 year old Italian-Greek, living in > Greece, with Egyptian > husband and two children, boy 7 and girl 3. I have been a > vegetarian for > twelve years now, so the children are too. > I have not become vegan yet, > 1) because social life in Greece is hell as it is, without > dairy it would be > even more, and > 2)because I don't approve substitutes, and I have serious > information that > precipitated soy products such as soy milk and tofu are > dangerous to health. > (Read the article " Concerns regarding soybeans " at : > http://www.mercola.com > , the article A New Look At The Soybean Still Great--but not > a Panacea by > Charles R. Attwood, M.D., F.A.A.P. at > http://www.vegsource.org/attwood/ , > the report IS THERE REASON TO BELIEVE TOFU MAY CAUSE BRAIN > ATROPHY? by Ian > Williams Goddard > at http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm (Goddard is a > vegetarian!) and > also the more technical articles at > http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html and > http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lab/1580/cycle.html > > I also don't like the idea of over-processed, industrialized > foods, and most > ready-made substitutes are just that. > > There are many vegan recipes in our part of the world that > are eaten at Lent > (the 40 days before Easter). If you take out the fish > recipes, all the rest > fit the bill perfectly. So what I do is use such normal, natural > recipes,with no substitutes, try to cut out dairy as much as > possible, but > leave a > little so I don't have to use soy. I have also started the > brainwashing of > the children, especially > my son, explaining why milk is bad for you. They both love > it, and to tell > you the truth, if I had to let myself free, I would say that > cookies with > milk and cocoa is a great thing that I would badly miss. Even > now I miss it, > because I'm on a diet, but this is another thing... > > My biggest problem is how to make our morning muesli with no > milk and no soy > milk. I have tried it with water, and put plenty of nuts and > raisins inside > to make it palatable, the poor kids do eat it, but > objectively speaking it > is pitiful. I cannot understand how the English eat porridge, > which is just > oats and water, and maybe some sugar (I don't use sugar or > other sweeteners > unless really very necessary, for health reasons). I've tried > fruit juice, > but it is not satisfactory either. The acidity of fruit does > not marry well > with the taste of the cereals. Then I tried mashed fruit > pulp, from juicy, > very ripe pears. It worked much much better than juice. > > Another great product I found was something called Millmilk. > It's made of > oats and water, and it has a great taste. They have a website, > http://www.millmilk.com from > which I'm copying the product info: > > Mill Milk is based on a Swedish tradition of cereal > consumption that goes > back hundreds of years, and combines natural ingredients from > mother nature > in a patented process. It combines the nutritional goodness > of oats with the > benefit of rapeseed oil (canola oil), into a unique and > versatile dairy > alternative that is heat stable, and ideal for your daily > routine of cooking > and baking. You can enjoy Mill Milk in your tea or coffee and also on > breakfast cereals, or you can simply enjoy it straight from > the carton. > Currently there are two different unflavoured versions: a > Full-Fibre version > sold in Europe, and a fibre-reduced version, the Original > Unflavoured/Classic, sold in the USA, Europe, Singapore and > Australia. Since > the 1st of September 1998 there are also two flavoured > versions available on > the market, Vanilla and Chocolate. They are now being sold in > Europe and > Singapore All Mill Milk-products are made from oats, rapeseed > oil (canola > oil) and artesian spring water, and therefore 100% non-dairy, > No lactose, > Low sodium,No cholesterol . It has high amounts of proteins, > and a superior > amino acid balance compared with other cereals. It has high > amounts of iron > and magnesium. It has high amounts of vitamin E, which is > good for the skin > for example. You can replace dairy milk and cream with Oat > Drink in both > cooking and baking - but you can´t whip it like cream. If the > recipe says 1 > dl milk, you take 1 dl Oat Drink instead. Oat Drink is heat > stable and very > easy to use! > This is the page for the nutrition facts: > http://www.millmilk.com/frameproduct.htm and there are also > some recipes > which look nice. > (By this time you will think my uncle runs the company!!!) By > reading all > your posts-and those on other lists, I was wondering why > nobody mentioned > it, since it is available in the U.S. > > > > Irene > - > Yodeldi > > Re: who can resist ice cream? > > > In a message dated 8/14/00 7:13:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > erika > writes: > > << I'm suprised no one has pointed out that, besides using > white sugar, > Tofutti uses genetically modified soy beans.>> > > The other thing with the Tofutti brand is the content of soy protein, > natural flavors - sources of MSG?! And sometimes partially > hydrated oils... > Well, I guess, vegetarian means basically no meat and that's > it...?!? I have > to admit that I find most > processed vegetarian foods (especially those fake meats etc) > contain one or > more " nasty " ingredients - but of course that's just me...:-) > Check out www.truthinlabeling.org for a list of products that > contain MSG, > if > you get a chance. > > Gabriela, in sunny FL > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the > VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for > families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'm going to start looking for alternatives. Akil - <tasroe Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:52 AM Re: who can resist ice cream? Hi, welcome to the group. Have you tried rice milk? There are a couple of other varieties of " Milks " I have seen but not tried, like the one made with oats you mentioned, and one made from potatoes. Summer , " ?rene Maradei " <tancredi@o...> wrote: > Hello everybody! > My name is Irene, 42 year old Italian-Greek, living in Greece, with Egyptian > husband and two children, boy 7 and girl 3. I have been a vegetarian for > twelve years now, so the children are too. > I have not become vegan yet, > 1) because social life in Greece is hell as it is, without dairy it would be > even more, and > 2)because I don't approve substitutes, and I have serious information that > precipitated soy products such as soy milk and tofu are dangerous to health. > (Read the article " Concerns regarding soybeans " at : http://www.mercola.com > , the article A New Look At The Soybean Still Great--but not a Panacea by > Charles R. Attwood, M.D., F.A.A.P. at http://www.vegsource.org/attwood/ , > the report IS THERE REASON TO BELIEVE TOFU MAY CAUSE BRAIN ATROPHY? by Ian > Williams Goddard > at http://users.erols.com/igoddard/soy.htm (Goddard is a vegetarian!) and > also the more technical articles at > http://starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html and > http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lab/1580/cycle.html > > I also don't like the idea of over-processed, industrialized foods, and most > ready-made substitutes are just that. > > There are many vegan recipes in our part of the world that are eaten at Lent > (the 40 days before Easter). If you take out the fish recipes, all the rest > fit the bill perfectly. So what I do is use such normal, natural > recipes,with no substitutes, try to cut out dairy as much as possible, but > leave a > little so I don't have to use soy. I have also started the brainwashing of > the children, especially > my son, explaining why milk is bad for you. They both love it, and to tell > you the truth, if I had to let myself free, I would say that cookies with > milk and cocoa is a great thing that I would badly miss. Even now I miss it, > because I'm on a diet, but this is another thing... > > My biggest problem is how to make our morning muesli with no milk and no soy > milk. I have tried it with water, and put plenty of nuts and raisins inside > to make it palatable, the poor kids do eat it, but objectively speaking it > is pitiful. I cannot understand how the English eat porridge, which is just > oats and water, and maybe some sugar (I don't use sugar or other sweeteners > unless really very necessary, for health reasons). I've tried fruit juice, > but it is not satisfactory either. The acidity of fruit does not marry well > with the taste of the cereals. Then I tried mashed fruit pulp, from juicy, > very ripe pears. It worked much much better than juice. > > Another great product I found was something called Millmilk. It's made of > oats and water, and it has a great taste. They have a website, > http://www.millmilk.com from > which I'm copying the product info: > > Mill Milk is based on a Swedish tradition of cereal consumption that goes > back hundreds of years, and combines natural ingredients from mother nature > in a patented process. It combines the nutritional goodness of oats with the > benefit of rapeseed oil (canola oil), into a unique and versatile dairy > alternative that is heat stable, and ideal for your daily routine of cooking > and baking. You can enjoy Mill Milk in your tea or coffee and also on > breakfast cereals, or you can simply enjoy it straight from the carton. > Currently there are two different unflavoured versions: a Full- Fibre version > sold in Europe, and a fibre-reduced version, the Original > Unflavoured/Classic, sold in the USA, Europe, Singapore and Australia. Since > the 1st of September 1998 there are also two flavoured versions available on > the market, Vanilla and Chocolate. They are now being sold in Europe and > Singapore All Mill Milk-products are made from oats, rapeseed oil (canola > oil) and artesian spring water, and therefore 100% non-dairy, No lactose, > Low sodium,No cholesterol . It has high amounts of proteins, and a superior > amino acid balance compared with other cereals. It has high amounts of iron > and magnesium. It has high amounts of vitamin E, which is good for the skin > for example. You can replace dairy milk and cream with Oat Drink in both > cooking and baking - but you can´t whip it like cream. If the recipe says 1 > dl milk, you take 1 dl Oat Drink instead. Oat Drink is heat stable and very > easy to use! > This is the page for the nutrition facts: > http://www.millmilk.com/frameproduct.htm and there are also some recipes > which look nice. > (By this time you will think my uncle runs the company!!!) By reading all > your posts-and those on other lists, I was wondering why nobody mentioned > it, since it is available in the U.S. > > > > Irene For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 I know of a really good almond milk recipe. I think it's 1 c. almonds that have been soaked overnight (important!), 4 dates (I'm not a big fan of dates, but they really make this drink good), and a quart of distilled water. Blend for, I think, 2 minutes, that sounds about right. Then strain it into a container (this takes awhile). Chill and I hope you enjoy ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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