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We're just going to have to agree to disagree about this. I *have* read many

many many papers, reports, books and articles on both sides of the issue and

have decided that the

risks involved with getting injected full of poisons is definitely not something

that I am willing to take with my child(ren).

 

The only cases of polio in the US had come directly from getting the oral polio

vaccine (which, yes, some doctors who have a supply are *still* using up) or

from coming into

contact with a child who has recently gotten the OPV.

 

Measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, whooping cough, etc....there are countless

ways to remedy these illnesses in this day and age in the United States. Last

week my friend's

son was exposed to a girl who developed chicken pox after getting the vaccine.

My friends and I all got together hoping to get our kids exposed too so they can

get CP and get it

over with.

 

Tetanus does not live in rust or nails - it lives in the soil where there is

manure around (horses, cows, etc.) so unless you're barefoot in the paddock

you're really not at risk

of being exposed to tetanus.

 

I could go on and on. I understand that you study immunology, however have you

thought that perhaps you are getting your education from a institution that is

blatantly one-sided

on this issue? I, for one, do not place my faith in the medical establishment

at large nor the education facilities that are run by them and/or sponsored by

drug companies. I

used to work for a drug company as a rep years ago and know all too well the

bonuses and perks doctors and hospitals are given to push this crap.

 

I am not ignorant nor setting a poor example. I personally know a few women in

real life who have lost their children due to vaccinations....try telling *them*

that they're

setting a bad example by not getting their other kids vaccinated.

 

In what context do you mean that " an unvaccinated child is 35 times more likely

than an

vaccinated child to get ill " ? I don't buy into that theory. A healthy diet,

sunshine, exercise and general well-being go a long long way in preventing your

body from being

susceptible to illnesses in the first place. My son is vegan, still breastfed

at naps and night, and doesn't get pop, candy and colored junk foods - he's only

gotten a cold or

two; whereas my vaccinated niece who is fed a bunch of junk has been sick with

colds, the flu and various intestinal illnesses more times that I can count in

this year alone.

 

~Odrade~

 

 

wrote:

 

> odrade and others, I wrote that unvaccinated children are a risk for

> all because it is a poor example and it seems to be catching on.

> When there was a decline in the measles vaccinations in 1980's 120

> died and 210,000 were hospitalized. In 1998, the rate rose and only

> 89 were hospitalizes and none died. Still think the risk is too

> high? people take their children on planes, cars,etc. and these have

> a higher risk of death than vaccines. I study immunology and this

> discussion makes me work harder to cure disease and prevent it. On

> person stated that they don't need statistics, just a story of a

> child's ordeal. Why don't you read stories from the mother's who

> lost their children to a preventable disease because people scared

> her with losing her child. When ignorance reigns, life is lost.

> This is my final word, I just had to respond to people not worried

> about their kids getting sick. I work first hand with disease and

> know it's capabilities. Please read, what every parent should know

> about vaccines by paul offit, md. He discusses both sides. I have

> seen the other web sites and find it ironic that there are web pages

> dedicated to children who died from vaccines, yet, none for those who

> have died from the lack of vaccines. I see that as a real bias. I

> do not use scare tactics, just reality when I stated to go to the aap

> site. An unvaccinated child is 35 times more likely than an

> vaccinated child to get ill, why take that chance? Again, it's your

> choice, but it's also your child's life, not yours a risk.....

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In a message dated 8/31/00 8:30:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

odrade writes:

 

<< The only cases of polio in the US had come directly from getting the oral

polio vaccine (which, yes, some doctors who have a supply are *still* using

up) or from coming into

contact with a child who has recently gotten the OPV.

>>

 

To add to that, according to the WHO, there have not been any cases of Polio

in the US in over six years. I also learned that only 1% of all cases of

Polio are paralytic, so even if by a freak chance an unvaccinated child is

exposed to Polio the chances are extremely low that it would even cause any

harm.

 

Sara

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