Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:53:34 AM Central Daylight Time, blackbird52 writes: << I'm still breastfeeding my 7 month old daughter, but when she's ready to be weaned should I use soy formula or soymilk if it's before she's 1 year old? >> Babies should consume breastmilk or formula until they are one year old. Soymilk is NOT a substitute for formula. I am still breastfeeding my 14 month old and we are introducing soymilk and ricemilk at meals, with cereal and in recipes. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 I breastfed my son until he was a year old and then immediately started him on enriched soymilk. We use either SILK or Westbrae - just make sure it's enriched with everything. He loves it and has had no problems at all! Good luck! Jenna Leon [blackbird52]Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: starting soymilk When did most of you start your babies on soymilk?I'm still breastfeeding my 7 month old daughter, but when she's ready to be weaned should I use soy formula or soymilk if it's before she's 1 year old?Theres so many different opinions on this, but I'd rather get the opinion of those who've "been there done that".Thanks! :)Jenna_______________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:11:31 EDT TFreyre Re: starting soymilk In a message dated 9/12/00 10:53:34 AM Central Daylight Time, blackbird52 writes: << I'm still breastfeeding my 7 month old daughter, but when she's ready to << be weaned should I use soy formula or soymilk if it's before she's 1 year old? <Babies should consume breastmilk or formula until they are one year old. <Soymilk is NOT a substitute for formula. I am still breastfeeding my 14 <month old and we are introducing soymilk and ricemilk at meals, with cereal <and in recipes. And formula is NOT a substitute for breastmilk. But a discussion of that belongs on another list. See http://www.lalecheleague.org/ for more on that issue... Including discussions about weaning. It should be a gradual thing, not cold (excuse the expression) turkey. (tofurkey?) Speaking of turkey, are we all getting excited about alternative Thanksgivings? I'd like to hear your family plans for those willing to share... Karen Chapel Hill, NC ______________________ ______________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 In a message dated 9/12/00 8:53:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, blackbird52 writes: << I'm still breastfeeding my 7 month old daughter, but when she's ready to be weaned should I use soy formula or soymilk if it's before she's 1 year old? >> My son is nine months old and I am trying to nurse him until at least two years old, I believe in child led weaning. Why replace a perfect food like breastmilk with an imperfect food like formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2000 Report Share Posted September 14, 2000 In a message dated 9/14/00 12:10:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kkmc writes: << Speaking of turkey, are we all getting excited about alternative Thanksgivings? I'd like to hear your family plans for those willing to share... >> Last year was mine and my husbands first Thanksgiving together (I was about nine months pregnant) and we had the Great Un turkey, I was not that crazy about it. I really liked the gravy though. I had the Tofukey the year before and was not too crazy about it either. Anyway, we had our own private vegan feast and then went to my grandmother's to visit the family, after they put away the dead bird. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 In a message dated 9/12/00 8:53:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, blackbird52 writes: << I'm still breastfeeding my 7 month old daughter, but when she's ready to be weaned should I use soy formula or soymilk if it's before she's 1 year old? >> LOL Jena who have you been talking to, they do not wean before 1. sweetie you will be lucky if you get your body back before 3 or so. RainingStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 You should always give formula to any child under 1 year old, I used Carnation Follow-Up Soy because it is made for older infants and is the least expensive. One other thing to think about though is that breastmilk is free, so you might want to wait until your baby is eating quite a bit of solids, or things could get real expensive. Good luck, and kudos for thinking about the best nutrition for your veggie baby. Also for Scott- with the Disneyland thing, alot of the stands inside serve Gardenburgers and such. Have Fun. Dara ____________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2000 Report Share Posted September 16, 2000 In a message dated 9/15/00 6:54:04 AM Central Daylight Time, clarkepf writes: << LOL Jena who have you been talking to, they do not wean before 1. sweetie you will be lucky if you get your body back before 3 or so. RainingStar >> So true! My son's almost two and he has a fit if I tell him he even has to wait a few minutes before nursing! And I'm 39 weeks pregnant with twins!!! Angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 In a message dated 9/18/00 5:18:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, angelasei writes: << So true! My son's almost two and he has a fit if I tell him he even has to wait a few minutes before nursing! And I'm 39 weeks pregnant with twins!!! Angela >> Oh Angela, You are Super Mother! Are those twins going to be here any day now. RainingStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 In a message dated 9/19/00 8:03:57 AM Central Daylight Time, clarkepf writes: << Oh Angela, You are Super Mother! Are those twins going to be here any day now. RainingStar >> Thanks. I'm hoping they'll be here today! My due date is in three days--can't believe we've made it this long! Angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 In a message dated 9/20/00 7:32:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, angelasei writes: << I'm hoping they'll be here today! My due date is in three days--can't believe we've made it this long! Angela >> This is a long time for twins is it not.I thought that they arrived early most of the time.Are you going to have your sweet babies at home or are you going out? Great Luck to you !!!! Have nursing all three! RainingStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 In a message dated 9/21/00 7:37:34 AM Central Daylight Time, clarkepf writes: << This is a long time for twins is it not.I thought that they arrived early most of the time.Are you going to have your sweet babies at home or are you going out? Great Luck to you !!!! Have nursing all three! RainingStar >> Yes, twins usually arrive a bit earlier than this! I guess it's my healthy vegetarian diet that's allowed me to last so long! I had originally planned a homebirth, but since both babies are breech, I'll be going to the hospital now. Hopefully I'll still be able to avoid a cesarean, my doctor's pretty optimistic. I'll let you know--should be any minute now.... Nursing three wil l be a challenge! Have a lovely day! Angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 In a message dated 9/21/00 7:03:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, angelasei writes: << Yes, twins usually arrive a bit earlier than this! I guess it's my healthy vegetarian diet that's allowed me to last so long! I had originally planned a homebirth, but since both babies are breech, I'll be going to the hospital now. Hopefully I'll still be able to avoid a cesarean, my doctor's pretty optimistic. I'll let you know--should be any minute now.... Nursing three wil l be a challenge! Have a lovely day! Angela >> A woman M.D. who spoke at our HEALTHY ALTERNATIVES Through Nutrition and Fitness Group is the mother of two sets of twins, one born at a hospital the second at home. The daughter of a physician whose mother was more " natural " oriented, when she became pregnant the first time she wanted the birth to be as natural as possible but as she was expecting twins she elected to go the hospital route in case of emergency. She spoke with all the doctors in the OB-GYN Group Practice and apprised them of her desire to " go natural " and all agreed. However she was unable to see one member of the group and he happened to be on call when she went into labor. He went along with her wishes until the first twin was born and then when the second one took more than an hour-and a half he started pressuring her for intervention. She held out for 11 hours and then exhausted from the labor and the tongue lashing she was getting from the hospital and nurses, submitted. The doctor forced his hand and arm up into her vagina and forcibly pulled out the second twin. To make a long story shorter, the second twin had severe emotional and physical problems for over 3 years. When she became pregnant with the second set of twins she elected to work with midwives and the difference she says was like night and day. The birth of the second twin did not arrive within an hour and half, but sometime the next day. The midwives kept a close monitor of the situation and saw no need for intervention. That set of twins have always been more content, adapable and healthy physically and emotionally, the doctor pointed out. She spoke at our class in order to alert the public that Alabama doctors were/are attempting to frighten parents into outlawing midwifery, when the fact is through the present hospital system Alabama has one of the highest infant mortality rates in the nation. Doctor Midwives are little better than going to an OB-GYN for although they perhaps give mothers more TLC in the hospital, they are still under the doctor's dominion and if there is any sign of stress, they intervene. Inserting a fetal monitor through the mother's vagina into the baby's scull to see if the fetus is under pressure, is one means to put the fetus (and the mother) under stress. Once " stress " is established, intervention (usually a " section " ) is recommended. This denies the fetus (and the mother) of the many benefits of going through the birth canal which affects future health for baby as well as mother. Doctors are taught how to deal with emergencies through medical intervention. They know little about how to care for emergencies naturally. Most midwives have had much more experience in natural as well as emergency situations so do not panic or overreact. Another friend who had two of her children in the hospital with much distress and future problems for both her and her children, opted for home birth with her 3rd and when I met her she was expecting her 4th. Because she was having a difficult pregnancy, she told me, she ESPECIALLY opted for a midwife because they were more experienced in handling emergencies, she told me. In the meantime I educated her a bit about the dangers of cow's milk, the S.A.D. diet, etc. At first she was in denial, but after reading the books I recommended she weaned her family off the 8 gallons of milk they consumed weekly, and within two weeks their constant runny noses, sore throats, coughs, etc., disappeared and she became a believer. When birthing time came the fetus had the cord wrapped around his neck and was in breach position. As the fetus began to exit the womb, the midwife held the fetus's head, carefully unwrapped the cord, pushed the fetus back into the womb and turned it around, and within an hour the infant was nursing at his mother's breast and both mother and baby were fine. That family has since added 3 more children to their household, the last two delivered easily by the father;-) The father, formerly a high tech computer expert who traveled around the nation as a trouble shooter for his company, resigned in order to stay home with his family and help his spouse run a home schooling network for several hundred families. Hope the above gives some encouragement to parents unsure about homebirthing and midwives. Gerry Coffey www.all-creatures.org/cb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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