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Summer ~ First I've heard of it really. Dr. Klaper's

" Pregnancy, Children and the Vegan Diet " doesn't

reference DHA supplements at all. Where did you read

that suggestion?

 

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I read about it in The New Vegetarian Baby by Sharon Yntema, and I

believe an issue of Vegetarin Times. I could be wrong about the Veg.

times one though. I can't seem to find that issue, I think I left it

at my Mom's house.

I have been going through The Vegetarian Way by Virginia and Mark

Messina. They don't mention DHA supplements at all. They say that as

for omega 3 & 6, you can get it from soybeans, soy oil, tofu, soy

milk,flax seed oil, canola oil, walnuts, and wheat germ.

 

I haven't heard anywhere else that vegans should take DHA

supplements. My Doctor has never mentioned it, I was just curious if

anyone knew anything else about it. Since most of the foods don't

list how much omega fatty acids they have, and I have no idea really

how much I should have while pregnant. I'll probably ask at my next

visit.

 

Summer

 

, Odrade <odrade7> wrote:

> Summer ~ First I've heard of it really. Dr. Klaper's

> " Pregnancy, Children and the Vegan Diet " doesn't

> reference DHA supplements at all. Where did you read

> that suggestion?

>

> =====

> Odrade ~ Mama to Aydn 5/99 and 'Bean' edd 3/01

>

> " Whatever it may bring, I will live by my own policies, I will

sleep with a clear conscience, I will sleep in peace " ~ Sinead

O'Connor

>

>

>

> Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free!

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Yes,

At the world vegetarian congress this July, Brenda Davis, RD, author of Becoming

Vegan and Becoming Vegetarian spoke extensively about this. I talked to her

afterward about it,

as I was 4 weeks pregnant at the time and obviously curious. A few studies have

shown vegan mothers to have lower blood levels of DHA, and lower levels in their

breastmilk. DHA

(docosahexaenoic acid) has been shown to be very important in optimal brain

development for the fetus and infant, and the suspicion is that the reason

formula fed infants have

been shown to perform less well on IQ tests or other intelligence tests as

compared to breast fed infants is that formula (soy or cow milk based) does not

contain DHA. I think

there is maybe one formula now on the market supplemented with it, but before

there was none. So even a vegan mother's breastmilk contains more DHA than

formula.

 

DHA is only found in animal products, like fish or eggs, or microalgae. The

precursor for it and EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) is omega-3 fatty acids. There

are good vegan

sources of o3 fatty acids (walnuts, flax, hemp, pumpkin seeds, among a few

others I can't remember) but according to Brenda, it goes deeper than that. The

more common fatty

acid, omega 6, appears to compete with o3 for enzymes in the breakdown process

which forms DHA and other important compounds. So even as a vegan if you

consume enough o3 in your

diet, if you get too much o6, you may not form enough DHA. As a nonpregnant,

nonnursing, vegan, I wouldn't worry about this issue, except that you should

insure some source of

o3 or o6 for heart and general health (good fats.) This can be achieved with a

balanced and varied vegan diet easily. However, I think it's a valid issue for

pregnant or

nursing vegans to concern themselves with. Brenda has a very good chapter on

this in her book, Becoming Vegan, and I would urge anyone who wants a more

detailed explanation of

all these things to read it.

There are a variety of reasons why o3 is less available to us in our food supply

these days, having to do with processing of foods, shelf life, etc, and reasons

why we are

getting too many o6 in our diet. The ratio of these two is what's important,

and it may be difficult to get the correct ratio. Vegans tend to consume even

more o6 relative to

o3 than vegetarians or non-vegetarians. The optimal o6 to o3 ratio is between

2:1 and 4:1. Vegans typically get 14:1 to 20:1. while lactoovo vegetarians get

10:1 to 16:1, and

non-vegetarians get 7:1 to 14:1.

Now, if you do choose to supplement, as of a few months ago, here are your

options, according to Brenda. Two companies, OmegaTech and Martek sell cultured

microalgae, rich in

DHA, but low in EPA. However, it's sold in gelatin caps. You can squeeze it

out of the caps and put it in your food as a liquid supplement, and thus not

ingest any gelatin, but

of course, you'd still be buying gelatin caps. Currently, there is no dried

version, which could be packed in vegan packaging, but OmegaTech is working on

this and should

hopefully have one soon. Seaweed could be a good source as well, but generally

only in places where people consume large amounts of it (some parts of Japan and

Asia.)

Otherwise, you're not really going to get much DHA from it, though you will get

more EPA from seaweed.

There is a lot more detail to go into here, but let me also say this. I know

many vegan mothers, with grown vegan children, who never even heard of DHA or

omega 3 fatty acids,

and thus did not do anything other than have a balanced diverse variety filled

vegan diet. Their children are healthy, intelligent, and doing fine. However,

as is often the

case in questions of nutrition, we're talking about OPTIMAL

diet/nutrition/conditions. If you choose not to supplement, you're not doing

anything irresponsible (as opposed to

not insuring a good source of, say, B12 for your child), but it's just a

question of what will provide the BEST possible nutrition for my infant. I

would read Brenda's chapter

and other information on it, and then decide. If the supplement were totally

vegan, I think there'd be no real harm in taking one - that amount of DHA is

certainly not going to

hurt. But because there isn't a totally vegan one available, I think it's up to

each mother.

This is a very very new area of research, not one your obstetrician is going to

know much about, so I think you have to do the reading, talk to experts in vegan

nutrition (not to

your average dietitician/doctor who is ignorant about nutrition and looking for

any opportunity to blindly put down veganism), and then make a decision that

works for you.

I hope that helps!

Leena

 

tasroe wrote:

 

> Hello,

>

> Some of the books I have been reading have mentioned pregnant vegans

> taking a DHA supplement. Does anyone have any information about this?

>

> Summer

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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Does the brochure list how much of those foods you should consume

daily?

 

Summer

 

, davida@v... wrote:

> This is from our new brochure on Vegan Nutrition in Pregnancy and

> Childhood by Reed Mangels, Ph.D., R.D. and Katie Kavanagh-

Prochaska,

> Dietetic Intern:

>

> " DHA

> DHA is a fatty acid which appears to be important for eye and brain

> development. It is found primarily in animal derived foods.

However,

> babies can make DHA from another fatty acid called linolenic acid

> which is found in breast milk if the mother's diet includes good

> sources of linolenic acid (flaxseed oil, ground flaxseed, canola

oil,

> soy oil). "

>

> The brochure is available for a SASE. Mail to PO Box 1463,

Baltimore,

> MD 21203.

>

> Davida

> List Moderator

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In a message dated 10/11/00 11:55:53 AM Central Daylight Time,

tasroe writes:

 

<< I am trying to find out as much as I can about DHAs, our diet has

omega 3 & 6 >>

Where do you get omega 3 & 6 in your diet? I have been taking flaxseed oil,

but I would like some variety. TIA

 

Tracey

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Thanks for the info, I will try to find the book you mentioned. I am

actually 6 months pregnant, and both my regular Doctor and OBGYN are

great about my being vegan. So they aren't trying to get me to eat

cheese/milk or anything(ewww).

I am trying to find out as much as I can about DHAs, our diet has

omega 3 & 6 so I am not too concerned about it from that angle, I am

just always trying to learn more about new things when I hear about

them.

 

Thanks, Summer

 

, leena@r... wrote:

As a nonpregnant, nonnursing, vegan, I wouldn't worry about this

issue, except that you should insure some source of

> o3 or o6 for heart and general health (good fats.)

 

> your average dietitician/doctor who is ignorant about nutrition and

looking for any opportunity to blindly put down veganism), and then

make a decision that works for you.

> I hope that helps!

> Leena

 

 

>

> tasroe@h... wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > Some of the books I have been reading have mentioned pregnant

vegans

> > taking a DHA supplement. Does anyone have any information about

this?

> >

> > Summer

> >

> > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG

website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for

families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.

> >

> >

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