Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 My 15 month old's first pair of walking shoes were leather and bought by her grandparents. I could not find any quality non-leather first walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor of leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? I get most of my shoes from Payless, but I'm worried about cheapie shoes not offering the right kind of support for kids. I'm willing to spend a little more if they are high quality. Do you all know of any catalogues, brands, stores, or websites that offer quality vegan kid's shoes? Thanks, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 I usually buy my daughter (6 years old) Dr. Martens or Birkenstock both brands have a nice selection of non-leather shoes for children and adults. Both costs about $50.00 (for children shoes) which is a bit high but it is worth it because they offer excellent support for a child's growing feet. And the plus with the Birkenstock are you can have the shoe fix up just like new by getting the sole replace or the bedding of the shoe and pass them along to another child. You could also check out www.vegwares.com <http://www.vegwares.com> but I think they only caring adult shoes. Good luck! Regards, Amanda Linda [sMTP:lindamc23] Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:27 AM Non-leather children's shoes My 15 month old's first pair of walking shoes were leather and bought by her grandparents. I could not find any quality non-leather first walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor of leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? I get most of my shoes from Payless, but I'm worried about cheapie shoes not offering the right kind of support for kids. I'm willing to spend a little more if they are high quality. Do you all know of any catalogues, brands, stores, or websites that offer quality vegan kid's shoes? Thanks, Linda -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 In a message dated 10/19/00 6:45:10 AM Central Daylight Time, lindamc23 writes: << I could not find any quality non-leather first walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor of leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? >> I like plain old canvas Keds - on sale, of course. Here is a link. I haven't shopped here, though. http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/ Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Hi Linda and everyone, What age is your daughter now? I don't mean to be negative about walking shoes and maybe there's some information on the topic I'm not aware of, but I thought the " modern theory " on walking was that the shoes a child wears, if any, should be as supple as possible to allow the child's foot muscles/tendons to develop and do the " work " of walking, rather than having a stiff shoe. My two boys (now 7 and 5) rarely wore shoes until they were about 3 years old (then only because we started going on short hikes and they needed protection from rocks and thorns) and they almost always wore fleecy " slippers " or moccasin-like rubber/foam shoes that I picked up at a local chain store called Zippety Do Da. Then, I would think that wearing not-so-high-quality shoes from Payless would be OK for those few occasions where " real " shoes are needed. By the way, my boys walk (and run) just fine.... <g> Just a thought. Warmly, Emily - <TFreyre Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:22 AM Re: Non-leather children's shoes | In a message dated 10/19/00 6:45:10 AM Central Daylight Time, | lindamc23 writes: | | << I could not find any quality non-leather first | walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor of | leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? >> | | I like plain old canvas Keds - on sale, of course. Here is a link. I | haven't shopped here, though. | http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/ | | Tracey | | | | -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> | eGroups eLerts | It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! | http://click./1/9698/4/_/_/_/971977250/ | -- > | | For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Converse canvas hi-tops are good, like Keds, and available everywhere. Sperry and Cole-Haas are better quality. Bass and sometimes Sperry put little leather bits on otherwise non-leather shoes, and don't tell you. My 7 year old boy wears non-leather cowboy boots from K-mart, rubber rain boots from Walmart, and medium high hiking boots or athletic shoes from Payless. My boy has wide feet and Payless is one of the few that has them. Payless has a good online store that works in concert with local stores so you can pick up or return online orders at a local store if you want. Land's End and LL Bean also have a few canvas shoes. Local army stores or sporting/camping goods stores (like REI) sometimes have canvas boots by Wolverine, Vasque, Hi-Tek, or Isreali imports. They also have good canvas and nylon belts and wallets. I have some great Timberline canvas boots and shoes, but they stopped making them; maybe I was the only one buying them. It helps to spray canvas shoes with Scotchguard or some other sealant/protector. -- Be of good cheer. Dick Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 My daughter's first pair of walking shoes were a well-made and well-fitting pair of canvas keds. The lady at the shoe store tried to scare me into buying leather saying it was essential for developing feet. C'mon! Kids have been learning to walk with the best equipment available - their own adorable feet. My thought was that the canvas shoes were the most comfortable and closer to bare feet than the stiff leather anyway. Now at 5, she still wears canvas tennies, but has branched out to synthetic leather boots (Kmart) and plastic and cloth sandals (Walmart). And, by the way, her feet and walking skills have developed just fine! Caroline Linda wrote: > > My 15 month old's first pair of walking shoes were leather and bought > by her grandparents. I could not find any quality non-leather first > walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor of > leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? I get > most of my shoes from Payless, but I'm worried about cheapie shoes > not offering the right kind of support for kids. I'm willing to > spend a little more if they are high quality. Do you all know of any > catalogues, brands, stores, or websites that offer quality vegan > kid's shoes? > Thanks, > Linda > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 We buy our daughter where ever we can find them. We found them this year at Gymboree. I found a few more this year but last year my daughter only wore a infant size and it was really hard to find something. Sneakers were what she ended up with (those are usually pretty easy to find leather free). Natalie > " Kocur, Amanda C " <ackocur > > " ' ' " >RE: Non-leather children's shoes >Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:05:22 -0500 > >I usually buy my daughter (6 years old) Dr. Martens or Birkenstock both >brands have a nice selection of non-leather shoes for children and adults. >Both costs about $50.00 (for children shoes) which is a bit high but it is >worth it because they offer excellent support for a child's growing feet. >And the plus with the Birkenstock are you can have the shoe fix up just >like >new by getting the sole replace or the bedding of the shoe and pass them >along to another child. You could also check out www.vegwares.com ><http://www.vegwares.com> but I think they only caring adult shoes. Good >luck! > >Regards, >Amanda > > > Linda [sMTP:lindamc23] > Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:27 AM > > Non-leather children's shoes > > My 15 month old's first pair of walking shoes were leather and >bought > by her grandparents. I could not find any quality non-leather first > > walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor >of > leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? I get > most of my shoes from Payless, but I'm worried about cheapie shoes > not offering the right kind of support for kids. I'm willing to > spend a little more if they are high quality. Do you all know of >any > catalogues, brands, stores, or websites that offer quality vegan > kid's shoes? > Thanks, > Linda > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG >website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for >families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Hi! I don't mean to be critical but the philosophy of a vegen is to live a life that does not consume or use animal products and by-products in your daily lives but what about child labor and poor working conditions? Buying cheap shoes for Payless is supporting child labor, is it not? Shouldn't vegens, vegetarians and non-vegetarians be aware of where their clothing, furniture, and all other products are made? We (myself included) are worrying about buying shoes that are animal-cruelty free but what about companies that use child labor and/or have extremely poor working conditions? We shouldn't compromises on our values but we should be aware of how our shopping habits affect others. Try (which can be difficult at times) to be aware of who is making the products you buying. I will get off my soapbox now, Amanda > > Emily Goodin [sMTP:emilyg28] > Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:21 PM > > Re: Non-leather children's shoes > > Hi Linda and everyone, > > What age is your daughter now? I don't mean to be negative about > walking shoes and maybe there's some information on the topic I'm not > aware of, but I thought the " modern theory " on walking was that the > shoes a child wears, if any, should be as supple as possible to allow > the child's foot muscles/tendons to develop and do the " work " of > walking, rather than having a stiff shoe. My two boys (now 7 and 5) > rarely wore shoes until they were about 3 years old (then only because > we started going on short hikes and they needed protection from rocks > and thorns) and they almost always wore fleecy " slippers " or > moccasin-like rubber/foam shoes that I picked up at a local chain > store called Zippety Do Da. > > Then, I would think that wearing not-so-high-quality shoes from > Payless would be OK for those few occasions where " real " shoes are > needed. > > By the way, my boys walk (and run) just fine.... <g> > > Just a thought. > > Warmly, > Emily > > - > <TFreyre > > Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:22 AM > Re: Non-leather children's shoes > > > | In a message dated 10/19/00 6:45:10 AM Central Daylight Time, > | lindamc23 writes: > | > | << I could not find any quality non-leather first > | walking shoes. I promised myself that they would be her only paor > of > | leather shoes ever. Where do you all get your kid's shoes? >> > | > | I like plain old canvas Keds - on sale, of course. Here is a link. > I > | haven't shopped here, though. > | http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/ > | > | Tracey > | > | > | > | -------------------------- eGroups > Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > | eGroups eLerts > | It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > | http://click./1/9698/4/_/_/_/971977250/ > | -- > > > | > | For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG > website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for > families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > | > | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 In a message dated 10/24/00 7:16:16 AM Central Daylight Time, ackocur writes: << Try (which can be difficult at times) to be aware of who is making the products you buying. >> Thsi is really tough. It is hard to boycott everything all at once. Sometimes I don't even know what choice is the most correct one to make, KWIM? In the end, it is often better not to buy anything at all. Secondhand stuff is a good choice, too. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 My husband and I used to be just concerned with if it was non leather. Now we try to avoid companies that we know practice unhuman practices. We do not buy our shoes at Payless or Kmart or such because I know that there must be some corner they are cutting to make things so cheap (probably unfair cheap labor). We try not to shop at the Gap because of their practices. But it is really hard to not have a lot of money and try to buy ethically sound products and the more you find out the more and more places you cannot shop at. Natalie >TFreyre > > >Re: Non-leather children's shoes >Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:49:30 EDT > >In a message dated 10/24/00 7:16:16 AM Central Daylight Time, >ackocur >writes: > ><< Try (which can be difficult at times) to be aware of who is > making the products you buying. >> > >Thsi is really tough. It is hard to boycott everything all at once. >Sometimes I don't even know what choice is the most correct one to make, >KWIM? In the end, it is often better not to buy anything at all. >Secondhand >stuff is a good choice, too. > Tracey > > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at >http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to >http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi, Been reading your notes on shoes for Vegan Kids. This place in Australia makes wonderful shoes and accessories made from microfibre. Excellent quality and with the Aussie Dollar being down at around 52 cents US, they are an excellent value for money purchase. Good luck. http://www.veganwares.com/ John Toomey www.lwcpl.com TFreyre [sMTP:TFreyre] Wednesday, 25 October 2000 3:50 AM Re: Non-leather children's shoes In a message dated 10/24/00 7:16:16 AM Central Daylight Time, ackocur writes: << Try (which can be difficult at times) to be aware of who is making the products you buying. >> Thsi is really tough. It is hard to boycott everything all at once. Sometimes I don't even know what choice is the most correct one to make, KWIM? In the end, it is often better not to buy anything at all. Secondhand stuff is a good choice, too. Tracey For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 Hello, Yes, the place is called VeganWares ( if that's the one you are talking about ) and they don't stock kids shoes but they will make shoes to order. Actually the shop is about five minutes from where I work. I get my shoes from them as I don;t like smelly, cheap vinyl shoes. Deb D John Toomey [john] Wednesday, 25 October 2000 23:08 ' ' RE: Non-leather children's shoes Hi, Been reading your notes on shoes for Vegan Kids. This place in Australia makes wonderful shoes and accessories made from microfibre. Excellent quality and with the Aussie Dollar being down at around 52 cents US, they are an excellent value for money purchase. Good luck. http://www.veganwares.com/ John Toomey www.lwcpl.com TFreyre [sMTP:TFreyre] Wednesday, 25 October 2000 3:50 AM Re: Non-leather children's shoes In a message dated 10/24/00 7:16:16 AM Central Daylight Time, ackocur writes: << Try (which can be difficult at times) to be aware of who is making the products you buying. >> Thsi is really tough. It is hard to boycott everything all at once. Sometimes I don't even know what choice is the most correct one to make, KWIM? In the end, it is often better not to buy anything at all. Secondhand stuff is a good choice, too. Tracey For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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