Guest guest Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 Hi all, I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just needs to learn to respect your authority. BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. Warmly, Emily - " Ruth " <rraadmin Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM RE: New member | Dear Hadass | | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son (three years | old) and a pregnancy of six months. | | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky eater, | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! | | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a playplace " ...and all | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is not | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't hurt or | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas on how | to broach the subject? | | Regards | | Veg Mom...Ruth | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Thanks for the advice. YOu are right in saying that he can't articulate the burgers as being animals, BUT all his peers are meat eaters. He does respect me but throws the occasional tantrum (which I think is quite normal)...he loves soya polony and soya " hotdogs " but I think he gets confused because they look similar...Thanx for the advice. Ruth Emily Goodin [emilyg28] Sunday, November 19, 2000 3:46 AM Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) Hi all, I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just needs to learn to respect your authority. BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. Warmly, Emily - " Ruth " <rraadmin Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM RE: New member | Dear Hadass | | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son (three years | old) and a pregnancy of six months. | | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky eater, | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! | | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a playplace " ...and all | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is not | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't hurt or | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas on how | to broach the subject? | | Regards | | Veg Mom...Ruth | For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 When he has to go there (It is never our choice of restaurants) -my 9 year old orders garden salad and fries, he gets strange looks for that too -- The people behind the counter have a hard time believing a kid would choose salad over a burger(if you can even call it that). What they really wouldn't understand is that it is HIS decision. We support him 100% even though we are not vegetarians ourselves. Good luck, Deb - Emily Goodin <emilyg28 Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > Hi all, > > I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a > " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just > say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat > that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at > least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just > needs to learn to respect your authority. > > BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and > without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old > won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. > > Warmly, > Emily > > - > " Ruth " <rraadmin > > Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM > RE: New member > > > | Dear Hadass > | > | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son > (three years > | old) and a pregnancy of six months. > | > | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky > eater, > | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! > | > | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a > playplace " ...and all > | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is > not > | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't > hurt or > | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas > on how > | to broach the subject? > | > | Regards > | > | Veg Mom...Ruth > | > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 That is awesome to hear! Sounds like you've got a special little guy there. One little word of warning, McDonalds pre-cooks it's fries in beef lard to add flavor to them. (I know, I know- I was disappointed to learn it too ----Original Message Follows---- " Deb Arsenault " <deb415611 Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:45:36 -0500 When he has to go there (It is never our choice of restaurants) -my 9 year old orders garden salad and fries, he gets strange looks for that too -- The people behind the counter have a hard time believing a kid would choose salad over a burger(if you can even call it that). What they really wouldn't understand is that it is HIS decision. We support him 100% even though we are not vegetarians ourselves. Good luck, Deb - Emily Goodin <emilyg28 Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > Hi all, > > I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a > " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just > say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat > that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at > least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just > needs to learn to respect your authority. > > BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and > without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old > won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. > > Warmly, > Emily > > - > " Ruth " <rraadmin > > Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM > RE: New member > > > | Dear Hadass > | > | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son > (three years > | old) and a pregnancy of six months. > | > | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky > eater, > | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! > | > | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a > playplace " ...and all > | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is > not > | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't > hurt or > | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas > on how > | to broach the subject? > | > | Regards > | > | Veg Mom...Ruth > | > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 Thanks - I was under the impression that they only fried in veg. oil but never thought about precooking. He will be outraged to learn that they do something like that; he has trouble with grey areas, it should either be a vegetable or not be a vegetable. He is a special little guy - We were at a resort in S.C. a month ago and in a line for a buffet - as we were leaving the meat carving station (that's where the rolls were), he says to me loudly(on purpose) " Isn't really too bad what they do to those animals " As we were walking away I could hear the man at the carving station talking to the other people in line - I think he was kind of surprised but impressed. Kevin got his point across. He's a 9 year old who so far has pretty much resisted peer pressure(what he's had so far) and is his own person. Makes us proud. - David Levin <delevin1 Tuesday, November 21, 2000 6:13 PM Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > That is awesome to hear! Sounds like you've got a special little guy there. > One little word of warning, McDonalds pre-cooks it's fries in beef lard to > add flavor to them. (I know, I know- I was disappointed to learn it too > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " Deb Arsenault " <deb415611 > > > Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:45:36 -0500 > > When he has to go there (It is never our choice of restaurants) -my 9 year > old orders garden salad and fries, he gets strange looks for that too -- > The people behind the counter have a hard time believing a kid would choose > salad over a burger(if you can even call it that). What they really > wouldn't understand is that it is HIS decision. > We support him 100% even though we are not vegetarians ourselves. > Good luck, > Deb > > - > Emily Goodin <emilyg28 > > Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM > Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > > > > Hi all, > > > > I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a > > " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just > > say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat > > that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at > > least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just > > needs to learn to respect your authority. > > > > BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and > > without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old > > won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. > > > > Warmly, > > Emily > > > > - > > " Ruth " <rraadmin > > > > Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM > > RE: New member > > > > > > | Dear Hadass > > | > > | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son > > (three years > > | old) and a pregnancy of six months. > > | > > | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky > > eater, > > | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! > > | > > | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a > > playplace " ...and all > > | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is > > not > > | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't > > hurt or > > | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas > > on how > > | to broach the subject? > > | > > | Regards > > | > > | Veg Mom...Ruth > > | > > > > > > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 Kevin sounds like a great little guy! What an amazing boy ) Happy Compassionate Thanksgiving to all! ) Sheri/RI deb415611 on 11/22/2000 04:06:55 PM Please respond to cc: (bcc: Sheri Hearn/Providence/EALaw) Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) Thanks - I was under the impression that they only fried in veg. oil but never thought about precooking. He will be outraged to learn that they do something like that; he has trouble with grey areas, it should either be a vegetable or not be a vegetable. He is a special little guy - We were at a resort in S.C. a month ago and in a line for a buffet - as we were leaving the meat carving station (that's where the rolls were), he says to me loudly(on purpose) " Isn't really too bad what they do to those animals " As we were walking away I could hear the man at the carving station talking to the other people in line - I think he was kind of surprised but impressed. Kevin got his point across. He's a 9 year old who so far has pretty much resisted peer pressure(what he's had so far) and is his own person. Makes us proud. - David Levin <delevin1 Tuesday, November 21, 2000 6:13 PM Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > That is awesome to hear! Sounds like you've got a special little guy there. > One little word of warning, McDonalds pre-cooks it's fries in beef lard to > add flavor to them. (I know, I know- I was disappointed to learn it too > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " Deb Arsenault " <deb415611 > > > Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:45:36 -0500 > > When he has to go there (It is never our choice of restaurants) -my 9 year > old orders garden salad and fries, he gets strange looks for that too -- > The people behind the counter have a hard time believing a kid would choose > salad over a burger(if you can even call it that). What they really > wouldn't understand is that it is HIS decision. > We support him 100% even though we are not vegetarians ourselves. > Good luck, > Deb > > - > Emily Goodin <emilyg28 > > Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM > Re: eating at McDonalds (was " new member " ) > > > > Hi all, > > > > I think most 3-year-olds aren't necessarily ready to understand that a > > " burger " or a " nugget " is a dead animal, and I think you should " just > > say no " to his requests. Just say it's a dead animal and we don't eat > > that. Period. More explaining won't make it clear, until he's at > > least 5 or so. (I'm generalizing of course....) For now, he just > > needs to learn to respect your authority. > > > > BTW, my 8-year-old gets hamburger happy meals without pickle and > > without meat (I kinda like the weird looks I get!) but my 5-year-old > > won't eat anything there except for breakfast foods and apple pies. > > > > Warmly, > > Emily > > > > - > > " Ruth " <rraadmin > > > > Friday, November 17, 2000 2:23 AM > > RE: New member > > > > > > | Dear Hadass > > | > > | In our family, we are all vegetarian (FAMILY: Husband, Me, Son > > (three years > > | old) and a pregnancy of six months. > > | > > | Although my son is very very big for his age, he too is a picky > > eater, > > | preferring Macaroni Cheese and nothing else! > > | > > | Oh and the McDonalds' ongoing saga because " They have a > > playplace " ...and all > > | his cousins go there. My over-bearing and ever inquisitive Son is > > not > > | prepared to accept my answer...although he accepts that " we don't > > hurt or > > | eat animals " a burger does not look like a cow or a lamb...Any ideas > > on how > > | to broach the subject? > > | > > | Regards > > | > > | Veg Mom...Ruth > > | > > > > > > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2000 Report Share Posted November 23, 2000 In a message dated 11/22/00 1:08:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, deb415611 writes: We support him 100% even though we are not vegetarians ourselves. > Good luck, that is is so great!! What a special guy you have there. And you two are superb parents. When I was younger, I was forced to eat meat. Almost every meal would end with me crying. Kudos to you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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