Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 Hi, I'm new here and need some help! My son is 6 months old now. We started him on veg soup (carrot, potatoe, peas) with just a bit of pulp and rice cereal, now he takes ~120ml for lunch + any breast milk I had pumped the day before at work. I need some guidance on what/how to progress with solids now that he apparently needs protein (so the doctor said, recommending meat as the next step); beans and lentils are a source, but dried or green? Strained or pureed? Will they not upset his stomach? How often and shoud it be mixed with veg soup or alternate them? What other choices are there? We want to eventually give him dairy and eggs. And how can I do this introduction of solids so it is enough nutrients for him and at the same time it does not lower my milk supply? Thanks, suzana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 , suzana.ciur@u... wrote: > Hi, I'm new here and need some help! > My son is 6 months old now. We started him on veg soup (carrot, > potatoe, peas) with just a bit of pulp and rice cereal, now he takes > ~120ml for lunch + any breast milk I had pumped the day before at > work. Sounds like a good start to me. > I need some guidance on what/how to progress with solids now that he > apparently needs protein (so the doctor said, recommending meat as the > next step); Just to be clear, at 6 months he should still be getting the bulk of his nutrients from your breastmilk. Solids are just for fun and exploration. I would seriously consider changing doctors ... meat at 6 months? Yikes (even for a non-vegetarian baby). beans and lentils are a source, but dried or green? > Strained or pureed? Will they not upset his stomach? Lentils should be fine. There is a lovely quick lentil soup in Rose Elliot's book which both of my kids loved as babies. I can post it if you like. > How often and shoud it be mixed with veg soup or alternate them? Experiment 8-). The worst that can happen is a bit of gas and spit-up, and then you'll know. Just stay away from peanuts until he's about 2, or older if there are allergies in your family. What > other choices are there? We want to eventually give him dairy and > eggs. Just to be technical, your subject line says " starting a vegan kid " , but if you give him dairy and eggs, he won't be vegan. I'm not objecting, my family isn't vegan either, but it's just as well to be accurate in these terms. > And how can I do this introduction of solids so it is enough nutrients > for him and at the same time it does not lower my milk supply? There you've hit the nail on the head. At this age, your milk supply is paramount. I'd let the daycare play with solids, and you concentrate on nursing when you are together, at least until he starts grabbing stuff out of your plate. Then you'll know he's ready for more 8-). Don't worry about his nutrient intake as long as he's nursing well. Be well, Hadass, who is NOT a medical professional but has had some experience in feeding vegetarian babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 In a message dated 1/17/2001 10:51:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, suzana.ciur writes: Well, they say that milk in the second half of the first year becomes less nutritious and actually doesn't keep up with the baby's growing needs... Are you talking about Breastmilk???? That is so not true, breastmilk is constantly changing to meet the growing needs of the baby. A baby can survive on breastmilk alone for at least the first year. I suggest going to LaLecheLeague.org and getting some better information. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 > Just to be clear, at 6 months he should still be getting the bulk of > his nutrients from your breastmilk. Solids are just for fun and > exploration. I would seriously consider changing doctors ... meat at 6 > months? Yikes (even for a non-vegetarian baby). Well, they say that milk in the second half of the first year becomes less nutritious and actually doesn't keep up with the baby's growing needs... > Lentils should be fine. There is a lovely quick lentil soup in Rose > Elliot's book which both of my kids loved as babies. I can post it if > you like. I'd love that. I'll probably buy the book one of these days. > Just to be technical, your subject line says " starting a vegan kid " , > but if you give him dairy and eggs, he won't be vegan. I'm not > objecting, my family isn't vegan either, but it's just as well to be > accurate in these terms. > I thought vegetarian would be purely vegetables and vegan would be more " no meat " ... > 8-). Don't worry about his nutrient intake as long as he's nursing > well. This is what I feel, but signals from people around me make me worried .... My husband is pro vegetarianism for the kid which is good... thanks a lot for the answers, they are helpful and encouraging suzana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 At 04:50 PM 1/17/01 +0000, suzana wrote: >Well, they say that milk in the second half of the first year becomes >less nutritious and actually doesn't keep up with the baby's growing >needs... I'd be interested in a reference to this. From what I have read, your milk changes to fit the growing needs of the baby. That's why preemie babies that are breastfed have the perfect milk from mother. I know many children that were nursed completely for the first year of their life with no nutritional deficiencies. My daughter was exclusively breastfed until she was 8 months old and then she got little bits and pieces from the table that we were already eating. She's never had baby food and hasn't seemed to be affected by it. Children can live for a long time on breastmilk alone. There were times when I was nursing a toddler (2 -3), and knew that she was getting most of her nutrition from me cause she didn't want to stop to eat. I found the following on the la leche league site. http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/LVAprMay98p21.html Myth 24: Nursing a baby after 12 months is of little value because the quality of breast milk begins to decline after six months. Fact: The composition of human milk changes to meet the changing needs of baby as he matures. Even when baby is able to take solids, human milk is the primary source of nutrition during the first year. It becomes a supplement to solids during the second year. In addition, it takes between two and six years for a child's immune system to fully mature. Human milk continues to complement and boost the immune system for as long as it is offered. American Academy of Pediatrics Policy Statement on Breastfeeding and the Use of Human Milk. Pediatrics 1997; 100(6):1035-39. Goldman, A. Immunologic components in human milk during the second year of lactation. Acta Paediatr Scand 1983; 72:461-62. Gulick, E. The effects of breastfeeding on toddler health. Ped Nursing1986; 12:51-54. Innocenti Declaration on the protection, promotion and support of breastfeeding. Ecology of Food and Nutrition 1991; 26:271-73. Mohrbacher, N., Stock, J. BREASTFEEDING ANSWER BOOK. Schaumburg, Illinois: LLLI, 1997; 164-68. Saarinen, U. Prolonged breastfeeding as prophylaxis for recurrent Otitis media. Acta Paediatr Scand 1982; 71:567-71. > > >I thought vegetarian would be purely vegetables and vegan would be >more " no meat " ... Vegan includes no dairy products in addition to the no meat products that a vegetarian eats. From the http://www.vegan.com FAQ: A. By definition, a vegan (most commonly pronounced VEE-gun) is a person who does not eat animal products, including meat, fish, seafood, eggs, and dairy. But veganism is more about what people choose than about what they avoid. For example, vegans demonstrate respect for all life — their own, the planet's, and the animals' — not only by eating plant-based foods, but also by choosing nonfood items (such as nonleather shoes) that are produced without animal byproducts. Many vegans also go out of their way to choose cosmetics and personal care items that do not contain animal byproducts and are not tested on animals. Susie momma to Sarah Rose (May 9, 1995), Emily (April 8, 1998) and ? (March 22, 2001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 , suzana.ciur@u... wrote: > > Just to be clear, at 6 months he should still be getting the bulk of > > his nutrients from your breastmilk. Solids are just for fun and > > exploration. I would seriously consider changing doctors ... meat at > 6 > > months? Yikes (even for a non-vegetarian baby). > > Well, they say that milk in the second half of the first year becomes > less nutritious and actually doesn't keep up with the baby's growing > needs... I suggest you visit this site: http://www.lalecheleague.org and get some information with a solid scientific basis, as opposed to what the doctor says, which is generally based on mindboggling ignorance about breastfeeding. Yes, children do need to eat solids eventually; no, a 6-month-old does not need meat. I know of plenty of children who, for various reasons (usually a history of serious allergies in the family), did not start solids until 12 months, with no harm done. > > > > Lentils should be fine. There is a lovely quick lentil soup in Rose > > Elliot's book which both of my kids loved as babies. I can post it > if > > you like. > I'd love that. I'll probably buy the book one of these days. I'll post it separately. > > > Just to be technical, your subject line says " starting a vegan kid " , > > but if you give him dairy and eggs, he won't be vegan. I'm not > > objecting, my family isn't vegan either, but it's just as well to be > > accurate in these terms. > > > I thought vegetarian would be purely vegetables and vegan would be > more " no meat " ... Vegetarian means no meat, fish or poultry. Not purely vegetables, that would not be a healthy, balanced diet. Vegan means no animal products at all, that is, no meat, fish or poultry, also no eggs or dairy, and no honey. A vegan diet can be very healthy and balanced (the only possible issue is vitamin B12, but there are ways of dealing with that). > > > > 8-). Don't worry about his nutrient intake as long as he's nursing > > well. > > This is what I feel, but signals from people around me make me worried > ... My husband is pro vegetarianism for the kid which is good... I strongly recommend you look into LLL and other sources of support. People have all sorts of ideas, it is good to have facts to counter them with. > > thanks a lot for the answers, they are helpful and encouraging Glad to be of help! Be well, Hadass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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