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Hi there, veg*n families!

 

My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had

his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on

weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of trying to

get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has little patience

for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan food is dried fruit &

soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make dried fruit,

and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the soy yogurts I

found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone have experience

with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional suggestions for high

fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little 1-year-old? (We

already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.) He's still

breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm & voracious

first thing in the morning, though).

 

Thanks!

 

Karen in Chapel Hill

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Karen,

I have a 5 yr. old vegan son. Both my husband and I are also vegan.

When my son was your son's age, he had a drop in wieght as well.

We have a great holistic pediatrician who is also a nutritionist.

She suggested flax seed powder as a supplement. The great thing about it, is that you can use it in pancakes and waffles instead of an egg. Also sprinkle it on veggies, pasta, grains and beans. Also the flax has many of the omega fatty acids that we need.

My son is now in the 90th percentile in height and weight and has been for the last several years.

Peace,

Laura

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At 06:55 PM 2/2/01 -0500, Karen wrote:

>Hi there, veg*n families!

>

>My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had

>his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on

>weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of trying to

>get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has little patience

>for eating).

 

 

Was this a suggestion of the doctor? Many children are average for weight

at this time of their lives, especially when they are becoming more

mobile. My girls did the same thing and we haven't done anything to add

fat to their diets. In fact, my oldest weighs just a mere 8 pounds more

than her younger sister, who is 35 months younger. My opinion on this, and

what I have found from others, is that kids eat what they will. Offer what

you can and then go from there. I wouldn't be concerned about any extra

fat, unless your son was looking emaciated or like he needed the fat. 50%

is average - nothing wrong with that! :)

 

 

 

Susie

momma to Sarah Rose (May 9, 1995), Emily (April 8, 1998) and ? (March 22, 2001)

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Karen,

 

My son, Parker, is one year old today (2/5/00) and we are vegan. (By the

way, my husband went to school in Chapel Hill so we go there at least once

a year to visit friends and family.) Parker has a heart defect so I worry

more about percentiles/weight than I would 'normally'. My son is in the

50th too, but I am trying to let go of my worry and just let him be

himself. I read recently that we tend to think of bigger kids as

healthier, but there is really no reason to think this and there are some

studies that say bigger kids have higher rates of certain cancers. (I'm

sure there are studies out there that say all sorts of things, but this one

was noted in 'The Truth About Breast Cancer'.)

 

Parker is nursing also so I feel like that is my 'safety net' so to speak.

We do feed him 'Just Fruit' dried fruit, but I've decided to start drying

my own...that way I can get all organic fruits. We do buy Silk soy yogurt

and Whole Soy soy yogurt, but I've found a recipe to make homemade soy

yogurt...maybe you should try that. Does he eat tofu? I just started

feeding Parker tofu (put it off as long as I could) and he loves it. Tofu

is pretty high in fat.

 

I'm sure Gerald is a healthy, happy boy...being active is a great sign of

health. :-)

 

Good luck!

 

Linda Evans

 

Illinois

 

PS Someone mentioned flax seeds. I've heard that cooking with flax

destroys some of the nutrients. A speaker at the Vegetarian Society of DC

mentioned this two years ago so now I don't use it for cooking, but we

sprinkle it on top of cereal, etc. Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks!

 

At 06:55 PM 2/2/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi there, veg*n families!

>

>My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had

>his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on

>weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of trying to

>get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has little patience

>for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan food is dried fruit &

>soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make dried fruit,

>and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the soy yogurts I

>found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone have experience

>with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional suggestions for high

>fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little 1-year-old? (We

>already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.) He's still

>breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm & voracious

>first thing in the morning, though).

>

>Thanks!

>

>Karen in Chapel Hill

>

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Hi!

Linda

 

Could you share the soy yogurt recipe? I would really appreciate it! Or

even just where to find it. I have an eight, six, three and two year old

that love yogurt and I sometimes get worried about additives and super high

sugar content.

 

Thanks Bunches!

Renee

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" Linda Evans " <linda.evans

 

Monday, February 05, 2001 9:41 PM

Re: Vegan Baby fat & calories

 

 

> Karen,

>

> My son, Parker, is one year old today (2/5/00) and we are vegan. (By the

> way, my husband went to school in Chapel Hill so we go there at least once

> a year to visit friends and family.) Parker has a heart defect so I worry

> more about percentiles/weight than I would 'normally'. My son is in the

> 50th too, but I am trying to let go of my worry and just let him be

> himself. I read recently that we tend to think of bigger kids as

> healthier, but there is really no reason to think this and there are some

> studies that say bigger kids have higher rates of certain cancers. (I'm

> sure there are studies out there that say all sorts of things, but this

one

> was noted in 'The Truth About Breast Cancer'.)

>

> Parker is nursing also so I feel like that is my 'safety net' so to

speak.

> We do feed him 'Just Fruit' dried fruit, but I've decided to start drying

> my own...that way I can get all organic fruits. We do buy Silk soy yogurt

> and Whole Soy soy yogurt, but I've found a recipe to make homemade soy

> yogurt...maybe you should try that. Does he eat tofu? I just started

> feeding Parker tofu (put it off as long as I could) and he loves it. Tofu

> is pretty high in fat.

>

> I'm sure Gerald is a healthy, happy boy...being active is a great sign of

> health. :-)

>

> Good luck!

>

> Linda Evans

>

> Illinois

>

> PS Someone mentioned flax seeds. I've heard that cooking with flax

> destroys some of the nutrients. A speaker at the Vegetarian Society of DC

> mentioned this two years ago so now I don't use it for cooking, but we

> sprinkle it on top of cereal, etc. Does anyone know anything about this?

> Thanks!

>

> At 06:55 PM 2/2/01 -0500, you wrote:

> >Hi there, veg*n families!

> >

> >My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had

> >his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on

> >weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of trying

to

> >get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has little

patience

> >for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan food is dried

fruit &

> >soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make dried

fruit,

> >and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the soy yogurts I

> >found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone have

experience

> >with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional suggestions for high

> >fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little 1-year-old? (We

> >already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.) He's still

> >breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm &

voracious

> >first thing in the morning, though).

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >Karen in Chapel Hill

> >

>

>

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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i wouldn't be too concerned about a drop of precentile wieght. around the first year a child starts to slow down in in wieght gain and they start to get taller and grow into thier wieght so to speak. my son is a big boy for his age in height and wieght . he was at the 90 precntile for awhile and at around 18 months then it started dropping. but he is still at age 2, 35 lbs. maybe you should confirm with your dr if you should be changing his diet to more calories. its easy to make a baby to chunky, harder to slim them down.

>> >> >My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had> >his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on> >weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of tryingto> >get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has littlepatience> >for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan food is driedfruit & > >soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make driedfruit,> >and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the soy yogurts I> >found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone haveexperience> >with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional suggestions for high> >fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little 1-year-old? (We> >already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.) He's still> >breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm & voracious> >first thing in the morning, though).> >> >Thanks!> >> >Karen in Chapel Hill> >>>>>> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website athttp://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go tohttp://www.vrg.org/family.>>

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All this talk about babies dropping into the 50th percentile has me chuckling. My son has never made it out of the 5th in either weight or height. He was very small when he was born, just shy of five pounds. Today, he is 17 months old and still only around 18 pounds. My husband and I are not giant people, both probably average for height and below average for weight. My son and I are vegans. I give him avocados, nut butters, and soy yogurt, add flax seed oil to his cereal and olive oil to his other foods, and he managed to put on almost two pounds between his 12 month and 15 month checkups. I also still nurse him in the morning and at night. Needless to say, even with all of those fats and calories he's still pretty small. I'm not worried and neither is my pediatrician, but reading all of this chat about a baby dropping to the 50th percentile has me wondering. I've been a very committed vegan for about a decade and do not want to feed my son animal products, especially in the wake of this mad cow disaster. Does anyone else out there have a small vegan baby? What have your experiences been with doctors? What do you do besides what I mentioned above to ensure that your baby gets enough fat and calories? Thanks. Julie

 

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Ang

Tuesday, February 06, 2001 9:45 AM

Re: Vegan Baby fat & calories

 

i wouldn't be too concerned about a drop of precentile wieght. around the first year a child starts to slow down in in wieght gain and they start to get taller and grow into thier wieght so to speak. my son is a big boy for his age in height and wieght . he was at the 90 precntile for awhile and at around 18 months then it started dropping. but he is still at age 2, 35 lbs. maybe you should confirm with your dr if you should be changing his diet to more calories. its easy to make a baby to chunky, harder to slim them down. >> >> >My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday -- hooray! -- and we had> >his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th percentile on> >weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more conscious of tryingto> >get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has littlepatience> >for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan food is driedfruit & > >soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make driedfruit,> >and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the soy yogurts I> >found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone haveexperience> >with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional suggestions for high> >fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little 1-year-old? (We> >already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.) He's still> >breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm & voracious> >first thing in the morning, though).> >> >Thanks!> >> >Karen in Chapel Hill> >>>>>> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website athttp://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go tohttp://www.vrg.org/family.>>

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Linda Evans wrote:

 

> PS Someone mentioned flax seeds. I've heard that cooking with flax

> destroys some of the nutrients. A speaker at the Vegetarian Society of DC

> mentioned this two years ago so now I don't use it for cooking, but we

> sprinkle it on top of cereal, etc. Does anyone know anything about this?

 

That matches what I have heard and read. Apparently the oil in flax seeds

(where all the good Omega 3 fatty acids come from) is unstable at high

temperatures. In fact, the store where I buy flax seed oil keeps it in

the refrigerated section, separate from the other oils which are kept at

room temperature. I often drizzle some on vegetables or pasta just before

serving for the nutritional benefits, but I don't cook with it.

 

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Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

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I would also love the recipe... Thanks!

 

Karen

 

>

> Renee Jean [renee]

> Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:17 AM

>

> Re: Vegan Baby fat & calories

>

>

> Hi!

> Linda

>

> Could you share the soy yogurt recipe? I would really

> appreciate it! Or

> even just where to find it. I have an eight, six, three and

> two year old

> that love yogurt and I sometimes get worried about additives

> and super high

> sugar content.

>

> Thanks Bunches!

> Renee

> -

> " Linda Evans " <linda.evans

>

> Monday, February 05, 2001 9:41 PM

> Re: Vegan Baby fat & calories

>

>

> > Karen,

> >

> > My son, Parker, is one year old today (2/5/00) and we are

> vegan. (By the

> > way, my husband went to school in Chapel Hill so we go

> there at least once

> > a year to visit friends and family.) Parker has a heart

> defect so I worry

> > more about percentiles/weight than I would 'normally'. My

> son is in the

> > 50th too, but I am trying to let go of my worry and just let him be

> > himself. I read recently that we tend to think of bigger kids as

> > healthier, but there is really no reason to think this and

> there are some

> > studies that say bigger kids have higher rates of certain

> cancers. (I'm

> > sure there are studies out there that say all sorts of

> things, but this

> one

> > was noted in 'The Truth About Breast Cancer'.)

> >

> > Parker is nursing also so I feel like that is my 'safety net' so to

> speak.

> > We do feed him 'Just Fruit' dried fruit, but I've decided

> to start drying

> > my own...that way I can get all organic fruits. We do buy

> Silk soy yogurt

> > and Whole Soy soy yogurt, but I've found a recipe to make

> homemade soy

> > yogurt...maybe you should try that. Does he eat tofu? I

> just started

> > feeding Parker tofu (put it off as long as I could) and he

> loves it. Tofu

> > is pretty high in fat.

> >

> > I'm sure Gerald is a healthy, happy boy...being active is a

> great sign of

> > health. :-)

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Linda Evans

> >

> > Illinois

> >

> > PS Someone mentioned flax seeds. I've heard that cooking with flax

> > destroys some of the nutrients. A speaker at the

> Vegetarian Society of DC

> > mentioned this two years ago so now I don't use it for

> cooking, but we

> > sprinkle it on top of cereal, etc. Does anyone know

> anything about this?

> > Thanks!

> >

> > At 06:55 PM 2/2/01 -0500, you wrote:

> > >Hi there, veg*n families!

> > >

> > >My son Gerald just had his first birthday Monday --

> hooray! -- and we had

> > >his 12-month checkup Tuesday. He's dropped to the 50th

> percentile on

> > >weight -- no start for alarm, but it's made us more

> conscious of trying

> to

> > >get him more calories without having to fill him up (he has little

> patience

> > >for eating). One suggestion by VRG for high fat vegan

> food is dried

> fruit &

> > >soy yogurt. But I'm concerned about the process used to make dried

> fruit,

> > >and all the additives & the kinds of sweetner added to the

> soy yogurts I

> > >found. (He really likes the vanilla, though!) Does anyone have

> experience

> > >with these things and/or any caveats? Or additional

> suggestions for high

> > >fat/high calorie vegan foods to give an active little

> 1-year-old? (We

> > >already know about avocado, and nut & seed butters, too.)

> He's still

> > >breastfeeding, but just quick slurps between activity (more calm &

> voracious

> > >first thing in the morning, though).

> > >

> > >Thanks!

> > >

> > >Karen in Chapel Hill

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the

> VRG website at

> http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for

> families go to

> http://www.vrg.org/family.

> >

> >

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thanks, y'all

 

i'm not really worried about Gerald being at a particular percentile of

weight, I'm just looking for vegan food suggestions. in fact the ped was

not very concerned either. i see and hear about many infants & toddlers who

are overfed (meat-eating families) and it really makes me sad. like once

this hugely obese coworker of mine was telling me about his granddaughter

and how he was just convinced that she was starving because she would cry.

I was like Hey! a baby's only form of communication in those first months

is to cry, she could be trying to communicate lots of different things! but

i don't think he heard me, he wasn't listening to anything but his own

stomach.

 

yes please do share the soy yogurt recipe!

 

peace,

karen in chapel hill

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