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My husband also is not vegetarian, nor particularly interested in whole

foods -- actually quite a meat and potatoes, junk food guy. But -- he also

doesn't like to cook, so he eats what we have if he likes it. A couple times

a week I'll make chicken or fish for him (can't stand the sight of red meat

or I might do that too), and he'll have that and whatever... usually potato

chips or peanuts... what a balanced diet. I don't say anything, I'm not his

mother. He does notice that he's sick a lot, and even when not sick, he

usually has a headache, or stomachache, heartburn, always something.

 

My kids are both vegetarian (ages 12 and 3), and he doesn't try to influence

them, beyond offering the 3 year old tastes of his tuna sandwich. When she

was 2, he tried to explain to her that people eat animals. They eat

chickens, he said, and cows, and pigs. She looked at him very seriously,

then laughed and said, Yes! and horses eat people... she thought it was a

big joke.

 

Enough rambling. I love Marilyn Diamond's American Vegetarian cookbook (this

is before she went back to some meat), and also The Natural Gourmet (really

not time intensive for many dishes, but beautiful) and 1001 Low Fat

Vegetarian Recipes. 1001 & The Horn of the Moon are heavy on dairy, but make

wonderful transition recipes for people not used to veg eating.

 

Karen

 

>

> Irisbeetle [irisbeetle]

> Friday, February 16, 2001 10:59 PM

>

> (no subject)

>

>

> ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS A HUSBAND NOT

> > VEGETARIAN? SHARM

> >>

>

> Yes- my partner is not, although 4 years ago we decided to go

> veg together.

> When I actually gave up meat, she suddenly forgot about her

> promise. We

> actually laugh about it now. I won't cook meat, but if she

> chooses to,

> that's fine with me. The good news is she doesn't like to

> cook and loves my

> vegetarian cooking. So, if asked, she says she " vegetarian

> by default. "

>

>

>

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Karen L. Thurston wrote:

 

> He does notice that he's sick a lot, and even when not sick, he

> usually has a headache, or stomachache, heartburn, always something.

 

That sounds a lot like my husband, before he became a vegan. He *always*

had at least a little heartburn. He just thought that was normal.

Within a week of giving up animal products (he did it all in one fell

swoop), the heartburn and indijestion had gone away completely. My

husband was allergic to cow's milk as a child but was eventually told that

he had " grown out " of it. He suspects, though, that he still had (has) a

low-level milk allergy and that giving up milk is what made him feel

better. There's no way to know for sure, of course, but it's a good

theory. Do you think it's possible your husband has some sort of food

allergy (not necessarily milk, although that's a very common one)? An

allergy could cause the sort of symptoms you describe.

 

----

Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

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Sounds like mine alot ) junk part) eats lots of kraft dinner and hot

dogs, pepsi and chips. However he will not eat anything I make won't

even try it. And the rest of my family ( parents etc.. ) think it is all

disgusting ( tofu, almond butter. soy milk) I feel like giving up at

times. My kids are 21 months and 3 months. My husband has supported me

so far he knows how healthy the kids are. I dread sending them to school

I want to home school :)

 

" Karen L. Thurston " wrote:

>

> My husband also is not vegetarian, nor particularly interested in whole

> foods -- actually quite a meat and potatoes, junk food guy. But -- he also

> doesn't like to cook, so he eats what we have if he likes it. A couple times

> a week I'll make chicken or fish for him (can't stand the sight of red meat

> or I might do that too), and he'll have that and whatever... usually potato

> chips or peanuts... what a balanced diet. I don't say anything, I'm not his

> mother. He does notice that he's sick a lot, and even when not sick, he

> usually has a headache, or stomachache, heartburn, always something.

>

> My kids are both vegetarian (ages 12 and 3), and he doesn't try to influence

> them, beyond offering the 3 year old tastes of his tuna sandwich. When she

> was 2, he tried to explain to her that people eat animals. They eat

> chickens, he said, and cows, and pigs. She looked at him very seriously,

> then laughed and said, Yes! and horses eat people... she thought it was a

> big joke.

>

> Enough rambling. I love Marilyn Diamond's American Vegetarian cookbook (this

> is before she went back to some meat), and also The Natural Gourmet (really

> not time intensive for many dishes, but beautiful) and 1001 Low Fat

> Vegetarian Recipes. 1001 & The Horn of the Moon are heavy on dairy, but make

> wonderful transition recipes for people not used to veg eating.

>

> Karen

>

> >

> > Irisbeetle [irisbeetle]

> > Friday, February 16, 2001 10:59 PM

> >

> > (no subject)

> >

> >

> > ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS A HUSBAND NOT

> > > VEGETARIAN? SHARM

> > >>

> >

> > Yes- my partner is not, although 4 years ago we decided to go

> > veg together.

> > When I actually gave up meat, she suddenly forgot about her

> > promise. We

> > actually laugh about it now. I won't cook meat, but if she

> > chooses to,

> > that's fine with me. The good news is she doesn't like to

> > cook and loves my

> > vegetarian cooking. So, if asked, she says she " vegetarian

> > by default. "

> >

> >

> >

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I homeschool and I love it! Home schooling takes A LOT out of you though

you have to make a real commitment to do it right. It is great to know what

my kids are being fed. ( physically, spiritually, and emotionally) It is

such a joy to be able to watch them laugh and play and learn through out the

day. It is definitely worth toughing it out to me.

-

" Mike & Sharmaine " <prevett

 

Monday, February 26, 2001 12:42 PM

Re: RE: spouse, anecdotes & cookbooks

 

 

> Sounds like mine alot ) junk part) eats lots of kraft dinner and hot

> dogs, pepsi and chips. However he will not eat anything I make won't

> even try it. And the rest of my family ( parents etc.. ) think it is all

> disgusting ( tofu, almond butter. soy milk) I feel like giving up at

> times. My kids are 21 months and 3 months. My husband has supported me

> so far he knows how healthy the kids are. I dread sending them to school

> I want to home school :)

>

> " Karen L. Thurston " wrote:

> >

> > My husband also is not vegetarian, nor particularly interested in whole

> > foods -- actually quite a meat and potatoes, junk food guy. But -- he

also

> > doesn't like to cook, so he eats what we have if he likes it. A couple

times

> > a week I'll make chicken or fish for him (can't stand the sight of red

meat

> > or I might do that too), and he'll have that and whatever... usually

potato

> > chips or peanuts... what a balanced diet. I don't say anything, I'm not

his

> > mother. He does notice that he's sick a lot, and even when not sick, he

> > usually has a headache, or stomachache, heartburn, always something.

> >

> > My kids are both vegetarian (ages 12 and 3), and he doesn't try to

influence

> > them, beyond offering the 3 year old tastes of his tuna sandwich. When

she

> > was 2, he tried to explain to her that people eat animals. They eat

> > chickens, he said, and cows, and pigs. She looked at him very seriously,

> > then laughed and said, Yes! and horses eat people... she thought it was

a

> > big joke.

> >

> > Enough rambling. I love Marilyn Diamond's American Vegetarian cookbook

(this

> > is before she went back to some meat), and also The Natural Gourmet

(really

> > not time intensive for many dishes, but beautiful) and 1001 Low Fat

> > Vegetarian Recipes. 1001 & The Horn of the Moon are heavy on dairy, but

make

> > wonderful transition recipes for people not used to veg eating.

> >

> > Karen

> >

> > >

> > > Irisbeetle [irisbeetle]

> > > Friday, February 16, 2001 10:59 PM

> > >

> > > (no subject)

> > >

> > >

> > > ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS A HUSBAND NOT

> > > > VEGETARIAN? SHARM

> > > >>

> > >

> > > Yes- my partner is not, although 4 years ago we decided to go

> > > veg together.

> > > When I actually gave up meat, she suddenly forgot about her

> > > promise. We

> > > actually laugh about it now. I won't cook meat, but if she

> > > chooses to,

> > > that's fine with me. The good news is she doesn't like to

> > > cook and loves my

> > > vegetarian cooking. So, if asked, she says she " vegetarian

> > > by default. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

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My husband believes he's allergic to many outside irritants (freshly mown

lawn, etc.), and sensitive to inside irritants, such as dust. I drastically

cut down on my dairy intake about 3 years ago, and that spring, didn't

experience my usual spring " allergies " that doctors had been trying to get

me on prescription medicine for. I strongly believe that ANY allergy can be

traced to, or cured by, an individual's diet.

 

Sharmaine wrote about a junk-food husband (1001 low-fat recipes had some

that my husband will eat!) and the effect on the kids... my kids are

extremely healthy, and don't usually come home with colds even when all of

their friends are afflicted. If I hear that one of their friends has a

sniffle, I start them with double-doses of fruit, vitamin C and Echinacea,

and keep them away from soy, dairy of course, and try to keep them on a

light diet for a little while. They see the doctor for yearly checkups, but

nothing in between. BTW, they are both in the 90th percentile for weight and

height, healthy, slim, lovely girls. A lot of people comment on their looks,

not, I think because they are dazzlingly beautiful (except to me), but

because they just radiate good healthy living. Their energy amazes me. Don't

be scared about school, or contact with other kids because of your diet --

my older daughter is very proud being vegetarian, while not flaunting it,

and her friends love to come over for dinner, to try " exotic " foods such as

quinoa and such. One day at the playground, a little girl said to my 3 year

old, " I LOVE candy! " -- " I know, " my daughter said, " I LOVE lentils! " and

they went off to play. A healthy diet is proof to them that they have what

they need (besides, it can be really cool to be different if it's not

exaggerated or flaunted). Home school is not necessarily the answer, and I

think never the answer when the purpose is to avoid something (I was home

schooled).

 

Karen

 

>

> Patricia Bullington-McGuire [patricia]

> Monday, February 26, 2001 11:35 AM

>

> Re: RE: spouse, anecdotes & cookbooks

>

>

> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Karen L. Thurston wrote:

>

> > He does notice that he's sick a lot, and even when not sick, he

> > usually has a headache, or stomachache, heartburn, always something.

>

> That sounds a lot like my husband, before he became a vegan.

> He *always*

> had at least a little heartburn. He just thought that was normal.

> Within a week of giving up animal products (he did it all in one fell

> swoop), the heartburn and indijestion had gone away completely. My

> husband was allergic to cow's milk as a child but was

> eventually told that

> he had " grown out " of it. He suspects, though, that he still

> had (has) a

> low-level milk allergy and that giving up milk is what made him feel

> better. There's no way to know for sure, of course, but it's a good

> theory. Do you think it's possible your husband has some sort of food

> allergy (not necessarily milk, although that's a very common one)? An

> allergy could cause the sort of symptoms you describe.

>

> ----

> Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

>

> The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

> three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

> purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say,

> nonexistent, but each

> nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

> -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

>

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the

> VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials

> especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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