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Hi, my name is Elicia and I'm new to this list. I'm looking for new vegan

recipes and thought that this list might be able to help out. Could someone

help out? Is this a political list for vegans?

 

 

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In a message dated 3/2/2001 8:50:28 AM Central Standard Time,

writes:

 

<< Just for the record, I'm grateful that my wife is a

vegetarian. I must be the only male vegetarian on

this list. >>

 

Nope, you aren't!

 

My wife, daughter and I are all vegan!

 

So you are not alone

 

Brad

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>I heard that white sugar is whitened using bone meal. Does anyone know

>if this is true or not?

>

 

Yes, this is true for the most part. I am not sure if all companies that

produce white, refined sugar use the bone char method, but I know many do.

Domino is one that definitely does. Also, I'm not sure that the bone char

is used for the whitening process, I just thought it was a filtration

process (for what, I'm not sure!). Anyone know about that?

If you are looking for granulated sweetener from sugar cane, a better option

that does not use bone char, and is less refined in general, is evaporated

cane juice or organic sugar, found in the health food store. Even better

than that would be Sucanat or Rapadura (even less refined types of

granulated sugar). These are all brownish in color, but work the same and

taste better than refined white sugar. Keep in mind, there are plenty of

other kinds of sweeteners out there that are much less refined, and some

much healthier ones as well!

 

hth!

Jennifer

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ditto here. in fact, my wife followed me into taking on a meatless diet.

it didn't hurt that i do nearly all of the shopping and cooking in our

house. but after a couple of years of eating one way at home and another

away, my wife " gave in. "

 

by the time our child was born several years later, there was no doubt in

our minds we'd raise him vegetarian. we assumed that if we raised him to

consider animals as friends, rather than food, he'd naturally adapt to

eating vegetarian.

 

to our surprise--few other things about parenting fell so easily in line

with our assumptions--that's been the case to a " t. " zach's just turned

four, and the hardest thing about his diet are teaching him sensitivity to

others' choice to eat meat and how to politely turn down meat when it's

offered to him, rather than giving his gut-reaction response, which he

freely shares with us-- " ewwwww, gross! "

 

and that's with 0% coaching, outside of explaining to him that we " don't eat

our friends. " anyone else had such an easy experience?

 

scott

 

ps--we only hope it's so easy with his future sibling, due in june!

 

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<Raysauto

 

Friday, March 02, 2001 7:26 AM

Re: Digest Number 127

 

 

> In a message dated 3/2/2001 8:50:28 AM Central Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> << Just for the record, I'm grateful that my wife is a

> vegetarian. I must be the only male vegetarian on

> this list. >>

>

> Nope, you aren't!

>

> My wife, daughter and I are all vegan!

>

> So you are not alone

>

> Brad

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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Scott,

 

Yes, it was that easy with our kids, too. I think if they never see meat

eaten in the home it seems kind of weird to them, and I would expect that

most kids follow familial patterns--until they hit puberty, that is!

 

My 8-yr-old is staunchly vegetarian (from birth), but I recently found

that he is willing to " cheat " on items that don't look like meat. He'll

share in a friend's fruit snacks at school knowing that the brand in

question contains gelitan, for example. Those are the areas where we

have most trouble. (Gummi worms are causing a lot of friction at our

house right now--do you know who sells vegan ones?!?!). But I also

wonder if he is now at an age when he has the right to be making his own

ethical choices, with guidance, of course. Do I have any business coming

down on an 8-yr-old who considers himself a vegetarian but sometimes

makes non-veg choices? I'm not sure.

 

My 4-yr-old has been exposed to more food outside our home than our son

was at the same age. She has sighed and expressed a desire to taste what

is on friends' plates from time to time. So far, she hasn't eaten meat,

but I'll bet someday she will. In anycase, what both kids will retain is

the consciousness that vegetarianism is possible and a certain guilt

about eating animals, if they ever stray that far from our path.

 

I guess what I'm getting at is, yes, it is that easy at age 4 , but it

may get more complicated as the years pass and the child is away from

home on his/her own more and having to make choices in the face of

pressure from peers/advertisers! I am starting to learn this right now!

susanP.

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On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Susan M. Prepejchal wrote:

 

> (Gummi worms are causing a lot of friction at our

> house right now--do you know who sells vegan ones?!?!).

 

I've seen vegetarian gummy snacks in the bulk section at my local Fresh

Fields/Whole Foods grocery store. I don't like that gummy texture and

wasn't going to buy them in any case so I didn't bother looking that

closely at the ingredients, but they may be vegan as well.

 

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purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

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Our Whole Foods has them in a package, the brand is called Planet Harmony,

they also have vegan gummi worms.

 

 

> > (Gummi worms are causing a lot of friction at our

> > house right now--do you know who sells vegan ones?!?!).

>

>

 

 

 

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My husband will only use white sugar in his coffee so we keep white sugar in

the house. Somewhere on one of the vegan sites I found that Jack Frost does

not use the bone chars in their process.

 

Natalie Jones

 

> " Colin & Jennifer McCullough " <colinjen

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>Re: Digest Number 127

>Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:54:01 -0500

>

> >I heard that white sugar is whitened using bone meal. Does anyone know

> >if this is true or not?

> >

>

>Yes, this is true for the most part. I am not sure if all companies that

>produce white, refined sugar use the bone char method, but I know many do.

>Domino is one that definitely does. Also, I'm not sure that the bone char

>is used for the whitening process, I just thought it was a filtration

>process (for what, I'm not sure!). Anyone know about that?

>If you are looking for granulated sweetener from sugar cane, a better

>option

>that does not use bone char, and is less refined in general, is evaporated

>cane juice or organic sugar, found in the health food store. Even better

>than that would be Sucanat or Rapadura (even less refined types of

>granulated sugar). These are all brownish in color, but work the same and

>taste better than refined white sugar. Keep in mind, there are plenty of

>other kinds of sweeteners out there that are much less refined, and some

>much healthier ones as well!

>

>hth!

>Jennifer

>

>

>

>For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

>http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

>http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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