Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of the rest ofyou ever > feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments comforting, though! > Susan P. Nawwww...I too have that cognitive dissonance that arrives with the chasm between what I hold as ideal, and what my daily activities actually allow to manifest as reality.... Take the fact that I still have shoes made with leather for example...on one hand, they were purchased prior to my switching to a vegetarian lifestyle--and to " throw them away " or give them away would be rather costly at this point in my life as acquiring an entirely new set of animal/earth friendly garments is not financially feasible at this moment...otoh--aren't I continuing to promote the death of these animals (the moo's in this instance) by wearing shoes made of leather in spite of the fact they were pre-veggie purchases... Also, the use of petroleum in cleaning products is rampant...particularly in laundry detergent...as a " true " conservative by " nature " (hah, the Phants-- republicans--have nothing on my conservative views ) I would be moving against my philosophical/ethical platform to walk into any local supermarket and purchase their (most likely) animal tested petroleum based products (considering we have a limited supply of this energy source)....yet, I do not have a local health food supermarket which maintains earth/animal friendly products--I must order them, which adds extra cost for shipping...sooooo...being a single mom (and using cloth diapers!!!) living with my parents, I must make do with what my finances dictate (which, most recently requires that I use whatever they purchase)...I'm sure this opens up an entire landscape of understanding of certain environments which coerce individuals into setting aside certain amounts of ethics/morality in order to meet their needs for survival....as soon as my career transition is complete, and my financial picture improves, I will immediately return to purchasing my beloved biosphere friendly supplies....also, I do search for " natural alternatives " that can be used around the house such as using regular cornstarch for baby powder Additionally, driving a car is rather violent to the environment, and we are using, once again, fossil fuels-so, yet another human function is dependent upon " animal " products or by-products in order to operate within this society....<heavy sigh>....perhaps, one day this can change....unfortunately, the loudest voice heard is $$$$$$$$$$.... Alright, before I step up on my political soap box...I had better get back to work... Slante chugat, Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 In a message dated 3/12/2001 11:24:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, madaline_7 writes: > Yet, I find it > hard not to get another pair of Birkenstocks when my > I am pretty sure that Birkenstocks make non leather alternatives. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at <A HREF= " http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/elecadmin/2000web/index.html " > </A>h<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ " >ttp://members.tripod.com/colinsap\ mama/</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 I know what Sue means, though. When I went vegetarian, I thought it would free me of that guilty feeling over being involved in maltreatment of animals that was keeping me up nights. Instead, I became more and more aware how much I would have to give up. so I decided I had to be " perfectly " vegan, until I realized I couldn't do it. Maybe learning to settle for less than perfection is a good lesson from me, but I still have that guilty feeling, and I can't see any way of losing it. I've been veg for 11 years and will never go back to eating meat, but sometimes I wonder how to justify my choice to abstain from eating animal products when I cannot be entirely consistant in all areas of my life....Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of the rest ofyou ever feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments comforting, though! Susan P. ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Susan P~ I understand completely where you are coming from. I have been a veggie for close to 7 years now (it started as a $5.00 bet in college). Yet, I find it hard not to get another pair of Birkenstocks when my old ones wear out. Maybe it is becuase I didn't become a veggie because I read a report on slaughterhouses or I read how pigs are transported for slaughter etc. I did it becuase I was starting to feel ill... all the time (and we can't forget that $5.00. That's a lot in college. LOL!!). My stomach was a wreck and once I cut out the meat I felt better. Yes, for the record I do feel like some what of a hyprocrite becuase I wear leather on my feet. I guess what I am trying to say though, is that I understand. Alicia --- " Susan M. Prepejchal " <sprepejchal wrote: > I know what Sue means, though. When I went > vegetarian, I thought it > would free me of that guilty feeling over being > involved in maltreatment > of animals that was keeping me up nights. Instead, > I became more and > more aware how much I would have to give up. so I > decided I had to be > " perfectly " vegan, until I realized I couldn't do > it. Maybe learning to > settle for less than perfection is a good lesson > from me, but I still > have that guilty feeling, and I can't see any way of > losing it. I've > been veg for 11 years and will never go back to > eating meat, but > sometimes I wonder how to justify my choice to > abstain from eating animal > products when I cannot be entirely consistant in all > areas of my > life....Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of > the rest ofyou ever > feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments > comforting, though! > Susan P. > ______________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 And, as Kat brings up, I too would love to find really good and really nontoxic, nonviolent cleaning products that are affordable and readily available. Vinegar and bakingsoda only take us so far...although I confess I've raised two kids without ever once powdering any portion of their anatomies in any way! SusanP. ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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