Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi everyone, I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of mine. I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively breastfed from birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a slightly elevated bilirubin level, and was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili level in a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had something called " breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my milk in her system. She and I have the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The doctor told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down, and we wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very rare. But I am worried, because the doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really believe that breastmilk is the best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making her sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that breast milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine to breastfeed her, more frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels, phototherapy is the way to go. I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally important might have some insight into or experience with this. Thank you, Leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Leena, I'm not sure if this helps, but from my experience, my daughter and I had incompatible Rh levels but that didn't affect our breastfeeding experience. She did have high billrium levels (not HIGH HIGH but high))and was jaundiced the first 3 weeks of her life outside the womb. They put her under the phototherapy lights while we were in the hospital (for 1 week!) but I stayed with her the whole time and breastfed her exculsively. The drs said I had to give her vitamin D supplements for the first year and I did. I've never heard of breastfed jaundice... I'd get another opinion on that one... as, from what I understand at 8 days old, its perfectly normal for some babies to still be a bit jaundiced. I NEVER gave my daughter formula and as a matter of fact she never even took to the bottle. I'm still breastfeeding her - she's 13 months old and everyone says she looks like the healthiest baby on the planet *grin* Jenna _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hello! Here's my two cents. My youngest (now 2) had jaundice from breastfeeding. His levels went pretty high and the doctors told me the same exact thing they told you. A friend of mine recommend taking as much clothes as possible off the baby (considering your weather) and bringing the baby in the sunlight. The sunlight somehow does the same thing the phototherapy light would. That is what helped my little boy. When I went back for his recheck he was still slightly jaundiced but the levels were headed down. Next recheck they were normal. One doctor told me it is because your body makes just the right amount of milk for your baby and they don't get and the extra fluid that bottle fed babies get. I was told it was fairly common for breast fed babies to get this. I bottle fed two of my children and breast fed two and I must say the breast milk fed babies had NO feeding problems but the other two had a host of feeding problems until they were old enough to be weaned. You are right to be wary of the formula. One of my children had this problem and I did try the formula method. I ended up losing my milk and he ended up with a terrible reflux problem that was not there while I breast fed. I hope my experience helps you some. Don't give up! Many Blessings, Renee (mom of Deven 8, Jennah 6, Samuel 3 & Zachary 2) - <leena Monday, March 19, 2001 9:55 PM breastfeeding jaundice? > > Hi everyone, > I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of mine. I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively breastfed from birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a slightly elevated bilirubin level, and > > was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili level in a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had something called " breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my milk in her system. She and I have > the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The doctor told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down, and we wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very rare. But I am worried, because the > doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really believe that breastmilk is the > best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making her sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that breast milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine to breastfeed her, more > frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels, phototherapy is the way to go. > I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally important might have some insight into or experience with this. > Thank you, > Leena > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Leena! Boy, have we had TOO much experience with jaundice. My first born, Jack, was born jaundice due to ABO incompatibility. The docs told us that I had to stop breastfeeding and put him on soy formula in addition to the photo therapy. We VERY RELUCTANTLY did so. He was only on photo therapy for about a week and a half to two weeks and then I immediately started breastfeeding again. He has never had any problems since then so I don't think he had an adverse reaction to the soy formula. My daughter, Elise, was born last October and also was born with jaundice. We assumed it was also due to ABO incompatibility. Her story is quite a bit longer, but suffice it to say it was eventually determined to be due to neonatal hepatitis which went away by itself with the help of extra fat soluble vitamins and a bit of meds. We were told this time, however, that I COULD breastfeed her - that breastmilk was best and couldn't hurt her. Please be very careful when it comes to jaundice and what the docs may tell you - there are certain diseases out there that mimic each other and most doctors will misdiagnose (as in our case - LONG STORY). All I can say is, at this point, listen to the docs - try the soy formula - it probably will go away soon and you'll be back breastfeeding. IF HOWEVER, a doctor should mention the name BILIARY ATRESIA, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE contact me directly thru my email - I will help you - it is very important that if they start talking about any type of liver problems that you seek pediatric liver specialists (and I will help you if you need to find one in your area!) Most general pediatricians and general pediatric gastroendocronologists aren't specialized enough to know what they're doing. Good luck and PLEASE email me if you have any questions or concerns about this - I'd love to know what happens - Love and health, Lynne (37), Tony (30), Jack (2 1/2) and Elise (5 mos) leena [leena] Monday, March 19, 2001 9:56 PM breastfeeding jaundice? Hi everyone, I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of mine. I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively breastfed from birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a slightly elevated bilirubin level, and was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili level in a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had something called " breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my milk in her system. She and I have the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The doctor told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down, and we wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very rare. But I am worried, because the doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really believe that breastmilk is the best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making her sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that breast milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine to breastfeed her, more frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels, phototherapy is the way to go. I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally important might have some insight into or experience with this. Thank you, Leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Leena, Please get a second opinion before putting your baby on formula. Lots of babies get jaundiced in the first few days after birth. My daughter was able to have a bili-light in our home, just wrapped around her middle for a few days, and I never had to stop nursing her. In fact, I seem to remember that colostrum helps rid the baby's body of the problematic substance. I'd check with another doctor, perhaps at a different clinic, also contact a lactation consultant, as they work with the medical community but are very pro-breastfeeding. Also contact a LLL leader and talk to her about the next step. But you need to act quickly! Susan ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 At 10:55 PM 3/19/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone, >I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of >mine. It's actually pretty common for breastfed babies to have a bit of jaundice. My personal opinion is that it might just be normal and formula fed babies are NOT normal when they don't have a bit of jaundice. FWIW, my new baby is 5 days old. Jaundice usually peaks on day 3. I have been taking her clothes off and sunning her every day a couple of times, making sure that her right side is exposed the most to the sun. This can work even on a cloudy day. As long as baby's eyes are not yellow, I don't think that there is any reason to be alarmed. If baby has yellow eyes, I might see what else I could find. I would not, under any circumstance, supplement with formula. It will diminish your supply faster than anything and only cause trouble for you in the long run. There are stories where this does not happen, but it is more likely to be a problem than not. Have you checked out the LLL webpage to see what they have to say about jaundice? http://www.lalecheleague.org Good luck and Congrats on your new baby! Susie momma to Sarah Rose (May 9, 1995), Emily (April 8, 1998) and Anna Maurine (born at home March 15, 2001) new baby pics at http://www.geocities.com/suseyb apmomma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Leena, First off...congrats on having a little girl! I just gave birth to my daughter Fiona on March 7th. In Susun Weeds's " Wise Woman Herbal for the Childbearing Year " she gives the following info on jaundice: *PHYSIOLOGIC JAUNDICE* Physiologic jaundice is the technical term for the normal jaundice of newborns, which usually appears one to five days after birth. Approximately 70% of all newborns show some physiologic janudice. Blonds and Native American babies, babies born with the aid of drugs, babies who are not allowed to breast feed at once and on demand, and premature babies are at greatest risk of developing severe physiologic jaundice. The symptoms are yellow skin, yellow eyes, a bilirubin count of 12 or more which decreases soon after the third day, and an active baby. If your baby is nursing well, you may safely treat physiologic jaundice at home. The rule here is: " A healthy acting yellow baby is a healthy baby. " Normal jaundice generally disappears within a week. •NURSE, NURSE, NURSE. Your breast milk, especially your first milk, colostrum, helps your baby colonize the intestinal bacteria s/he needs to help bind and excrete the broken down red blood cells. Nursing also prodives her/him with extra protein, which protects the brain from damage while the bilirubin level is high. Nurse immediately. Nurse often. •Undress your baby, cover his/her eyes, and put her/him in the sun every day. Sunlight breaks down bilirubin. Five minutes of early morning or late afternoon sunlight, even filtered through clouds or glass, is the recommended minimum. Continue the sunbaths for at least a week, or until your baby's skin returns to its normal tone. •Sip catnip tea and offer some to your baby. Appalachian midwives favor the wild Catmint for controlling jaundice and report complete success when the mother consumes at least two cups a day, preferably just prior to nursing. •Enlist the aid of Dandelion if your newborn's jaundice is severe. Sip Dandelion root infusion or decoction throughout the day. The brew is bitter but tolerable if salt (not sweet) is added to it. Drops of the infusion or decoction can also be given directly to your infant. Either way, directly or through your breast milk, Dandelion stimulates and supports powerful liver functioning in the newborn. There is no limit to the amount of Dandelion you can use (except the taste); the daily minimum is one cup of the infusion for you, or one teaspoon of the decoction for your baby. *BREAST MILK JAUNDICE* This jaundice usually appears AFTER the first two weeks of your baby's life. It is quite rare, occuring in only 0.5% of all newborns. Its symptoms are yellow skin, yellow eyes, a bilirubin level of up to 20, and an active, nursing baby. As its name implies, this jaundice is caused by breast milk. It is thought that steriods in breast milk occasionally act as an antagonist to the enzymes that break down the extra red blood cells in the infant. Breast milk jaundice often persists for as long as two months. •RELAX. There is no real need to treat breast milk jaundice if your baby is healthy, active, and nursing strongly. •Cheladonium 3x is the homeopathic remedy for all types of jaundice. The energy from the brilliant yellow flowers and orange sap of this weed can help stimulate strong liver functioning. CAUTION: Do not use the herb Cheladonium (Celendine) itself, only the homeopathic essence or the flower essence. •Stop feeding breast milk for a very short while, no more than 48 hours, if your infant gets yellower and yellower and you suspect breast milk jaundice. If there is true breast milk jaundice, the bilirubin level will drop 5-10 points. Resume nursing immediately. There is no reason to stop nursing altogether; in fact, it may complicate the jaundice if you remove the nurturing closeness of breast feeding. Hope this helped! I'm " no mail " on this list so please write directly to me if you want to chat more. =) ~Odrade~ Mama to homebirthed Aydn 5/17/99 and Fiona 3/7/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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