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Hi everyone,

I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of mine.

I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively breastfed from

birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a slightly elevated

bilirubin level, and

was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili level in

a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had something called

" breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my milk in her system.

She and I have

the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The doctor

told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down, and we

wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very rare. But I

am worried, because the

doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off

breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I

REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really

believe that breastmilk is the

best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making her

sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that breast

milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine to

breastfeed her, more

frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels, phototherapy

is the way to go.

I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally important

might have some insight into or experience with this.

Thank you,

Leena

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Hi Leena,

 

I'm not sure if this helps, but from my experience, my daughter and I had

incompatible Rh levels but that didn't affect our breastfeeding experience.

 

She did have high billrium levels (not HIGH HIGH but high))and was jaundiced

the first 3 weeks of her life outside the womb. They put her under the

phototherapy lights while we were in the hospital (for 1 week!) but I stayed

with her the whole time and breastfed her exculsively. The drs said I had to

give her vitamin D supplements for the first year and I did.

 

I've never heard of breastfed jaundice... I'd get another opinion on that

one... as, from what I understand at 8 days old, its perfectly normal for

some babies to still be a bit jaundiced. I NEVER gave my daughter formula

and as a matter of fact she never even took to the bottle. I'm still

breastfeeding her - she's 13 months old and everyone says she looks like the

healthiest baby on the planet *grin*

 

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Hello!

 

Here's my two cents.

 

My youngest (now 2) had jaundice from breastfeeding. His levels went pretty

high and the doctors told me the same exact thing they told you. A friend

of mine recommend taking as much clothes as possible off the baby

(considering your weather) and bringing the baby in the sunlight. The

sunlight somehow does the same thing the phototherapy light would. That is

what helped my little boy. When I went back for his recheck he was still

slightly jaundiced but the levels were headed down. Next recheck they were

normal. One doctor told me it is because your body makes just the right

amount of milk for your baby and they don't get and the extra fluid that

bottle fed babies get. I was told it was fairly common for breast fed

babies to get this. I bottle fed two of my children and breast fed two and

I must say the breast milk fed babies had NO feeding problems but the other

two had a host of feeding problems until they were old enough to be weaned.

You are right to be wary of the formula. One of my children had this

problem and I did try the formula method. I ended up losing my milk and he

ended up with a terrible reflux problem that was not there while I breast

fed.

 

I hope my experience helps you some. Don't give up!

Many Blessings,

Renee

(mom of Deven 8, Jennah 6, Samuel 3 & Zachary 2)

 

 

 

 

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Monday, March 19, 2001 9:55 PM

breastfeeding jaundice?

 

 

>

> Hi everyone,

> I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of

mine. I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively

breastfed from birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a

slightly elevated bilirubin level, and

>

> was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili

level in a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had

something called " breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my

milk in her system. She and I have

> the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The

doctor told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down,

and we wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very

rare. But I am worried, because the

> doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off

breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I

REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really

believe that breastmilk is the

> best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making

her sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that

breast milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine

to breastfeed her, more

> frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels,

phototherapy is the way to go.

> I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally

important might have some insight into or experience with this.

> Thank you,

> Leena

>

>

>

>

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http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

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Hi Leena! Boy, have we had TOO much experience with jaundice. My first

born, Jack, was born jaundice due to ABO incompatibility. The docs told us

that I had to stop breastfeeding and put him on soy formula in addition to

the photo therapy. We VERY RELUCTANTLY did so. He was only on photo

therapy for about a week and a half to two weeks and then I immediately

started breastfeeding again. He has never had any problems since then so I

don't think he had an adverse reaction to the soy formula.

 

My daughter, Elise, was born last October and also was born with jaundice.

We assumed it was also due to ABO incompatibility. Her story is quite a bit

longer, but suffice it to say it was eventually determined to be due to

neonatal hepatitis which went away by itself with the help of extra fat

soluble vitamins and a bit of meds. We were told this time, however, that I

COULD breastfeed her - that breastmilk was best and couldn't hurt her.

Please be very careful when it comes to jaundice and what the docs may tell

you - there are certain diseases out there that mimic each other and most

doctors will misdiagnose (as in our case - LONG STORY). All I can say is,

at this point, listen to the docs - try the soy formula - it probably will

go away soon and you'll be back breastfeeding. IF HOWEVER, a doctor should

mention the name BILIARY ATRESIA, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE contact me directly

thru my email - I will help you - it is very important that if they start

talking about any type of liver problems that you seek pediatric liver

specialists (and I will help you if you need to find one in your area!)

Most general pediatricians and general pediatric gastroendocronologists

aren't specialized enough to know what they're doing.

 

Good luck and PLEASE email me if you have any questions or concerns about

this - I'd love to know what happens -

 

Love and health,

 

Lynne (37), Tony (30), Jack (2 1/2) and Elise (5 mos)

leena [leena]

Monday, March 19, 2001 9:56 PM

breastfeeding jaundice?

 

 

 

Hi everyone,

I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of

mine. I have an 8 day old baby girl (my first) who has been exclusively

breastfed from birth. Today at her 1 week physical, she still had a

slightly elevated bilirubin level, and

was looking a little jaundiced. Her doctor said we'd recheck her bili

level in a few days, and if it was rising, then it was possible she had

something called " breastfeeding jaundice " caused by an incompatibility of my

milk in her system. She and I have

the same blood types, so there is no Rh or ABO incompatibility. The

doctor told me not to stress, because chances are, her levels will go down,

and we wont' have to worry about it, plus breastfeeding jaundice is very

rare. But I am worried, because the

doctor said that if that is what she has, the treatment is to take her off

breastmilk for a day or two, and supplement with formula. My husband and I

REALLY do not ever want her to have formula, even soy formula, and really

believe that breastmilk is the

best thing for any baby, and do not understand how my milk could be making

her sick. In my La Leche League book, it says that this is not true that

breast milk doesnt' " agree " with certain babies, and that I should contine

to breastfeed her, more

frequently, and if that doesn't work and she still has high levels,

phototherapy is the way to go.

I was hoping some of you for whom breastfeeding exclusively is equally

important might have some insight into or experience with this.

Thank you,

Leena

 

 

 

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Leena,

Please get a second opinion before putting your baby on formula. Lots of

babies get jaundiced in the first few days after birth. My daughter was

able to have a bili-light in our home, just wrapped around her middle for

a few days, and I never had to stop nursing her. In fact, I seem to

remember that colostrum helps rid the baby's body of the problematic

substance. I'd check with another doctor, perhaps at a different clinic,

also contact a lactation consultant, as they work with the medical

community but are very pro-breastfeeding. Also contact a LLL leader and

talk to her about the next step. But you need to act quickly! Susan

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At 10:55 PM 3/19/01 -0500, you wrote:

 

>Hi everyone,

>I hope some of you out there may be able to help with this new problem of

>mine.

 

 

It's actually pretty common for breastfed babies to have a bit of

jaundice. My personal opinion is that it might just be normal and formula

fed babies are NOT normal when they don't have a bit of jaundice.

 

FWIW, my new baby is 5 days old. Jaundice usually peaks on day 3. I have

been taking her clothes off and sunning her every day a couple of times,

making sure that her right side is exposed the most to the sun. This can

work even on a cloudy day.

 

As long as baby's eyes are not yellow, I don't think that there is any

reason to be alarmed. If baby has yellow eyes, I might see what else I

could find. I would not, under any circumstance, supplement with

formula. It will diminish your supply faster than anything and only cause

trouble for you in the long run. There are stories where this does not

happen, but it is more likely to be a problem than not.

 

Have you checked out the LLL webpage to see what they have to say about

jaundice? http://www.lalecheleague.org

 

Good luck and Congrats on your new baby!

 

 

 

Susie

momma to Sarah Rose (May 9, 1995), Emily (April 8, 1998) and Anna Maurine

(born at home March 15, 2001)

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Leena,

 

First off...congrats on having a little girl! I just gave birth to my

daughter Fiona on March 7th.

 

In Susun Weeds's " Wise Woman Herbal for the Childbearing Year " she

gives the following info on jaundice:

 

*PHYSIOLOGIC JAUNDICE*

Physiologic jaundice is the technical term for the normal jaundice of

newborns, which usually appears one to five days after birth.

Approximately 70% of all newborns show some physiologic janudice.

Blonds and Native American babies, babies born with the aid of drugs,

babies who are not allowed to breast feed at once and on demand, and

premature babies are at greatest risk of developing severe physiologic

jaundice. The symptoms are yellow skin, yellow eyes, a bilirubin

count of 12 or more which decreases soon after the third day, and an

active baby. If your baby is nursing well, you may safely treat

physiologic jaundice at home. The rule here is: " A healthy acting

yellow baby is a healthy baby. " Normal jaundice generally disappears

within a week.

 

•NURSE, NURSE, NURSE. Your breast milk, especially your first milk,

colostrum, helps your baby colonize the intestinal bacteria s/he needs

to help bind and excrete the broken down red blood cells. Nursing

also prodives her/him with extra protein, which protects the brain

from damage while the bilirubin level is high. Nurse immediately.

Nurse often.

 

•Undress your baby, cover his/her eyes, and put her/him in the sun

every day. Sunlight breaks down bilirubin. Five minutes of early

morning or late afternoon sunlight, even filtered through clouds or

glass, is the recommended minimum. Continue the sunbaths for at least

a week, or until your baby's skin returns to its normal tone.

 

•Sip catnip tea and offer some to your baby. Appalachian midwives

favor the wild Catmint for controlling jaundice and report complete

success when the mother consumes at least two cups a day, preferably

just prior to nursing.

 

•Enlist the aid of Dandelion if your newborn's jaundice is severe.

Sip Dandelion root infusion or decoction throughout the day. The brew

is bitter but tolerable if salt (not sweet) is added to it. Drops of

the infusion or decoction can also be given directly to your infant.

Either way, directly or through your breast milk, Dandelion stimulates

and supports powerful liver functioning in the newborn. There is no

limit to the amount of Dandelion you can use (except the taste); the

daily minimum is one cup of the infusion for you, or one teaspoon of

the decoction for your baby.

 

*BREAST MILK JAUNDICE*

 

This jaundice usually appears AFTER the first two weeks of your baby's

life. It is quite rare, occuring in only 0.5% of all newborns. Its

symptoms are yellow skin, yellow eyes, a bilirubin level of up to 20,

and an active, nursing baby. As its name implies, this jaundice is

caused by breast milk. It is thought that steriods in breast milk

occasionally act as an antagonist to the enzymes that break down the

extra red blood cells in the infant. Breast milk jaundice often

persists for as long as two months.

 

•RELAX. There is no real need to treat breast milk jaundice if your

baby is healthy, active, and nursing strongly.

 

•Cheladonium 3x is the homeopathic remedy for all types of jaundice.

The energy from the brilliant yellow flowers and orange sap of this

weed can help stimulate strong liver functioning. CAUTION: Do not use

the herb Cheladonium (Celendine) itself, only the homeopathic essence

or the flower essence.

 

•Stop feeding breast milk for a very short while, no more than 48

hours, if your infant gets yellower and yellower and you suspect

breast milk jaundice. If there is true breast milk jaundice, the

bilirubin level will drop 5-10 points. Resume nursing immediately.

There is no reason to stop nursing altogether; in fact, it may

complicate the jaundice if you remove the nurturing closeness of

breast feeding.

 

Hope this helped! I'm " no mail " on this list so please write directly

to me if you want to chat more. =)

 

~Odrade~

Mama to homebirthed Aydn 5/17/99 and Fiona 3/7/01

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