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I just called Enfamil and after being transfered *many* times, and

being called back I found out the D3 is a synthetic which is derived

from lanolin. So I would not consider it to be vegan and I am going

to email the person who wrote the article I read.

It was just so very bothersome having to explain what vegan was and

then have them say say " it's vegetarian " and that " the sheep didn't

die from it " and they are " probably ok with it " , in regards to the

lanolin being sheep derived.

Urrrrrgggg.....it just makes me mad, can't they use D2 or something?

I am breast feeding my daughter but I thought it would be nice to

have something for an emergency, like if my Mom babysat while we went

out of town for the day and she ran out of pumped breast milk, or

something like that, oh well.

 

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<<I just called Enfamil and after being transfered *many* times, and

being called back I found out the D3 is a synthetic which is derived

from lanolin. So I would not consider it to be vegan and I am going to

email the person who wrote the article I read.>>

 

Reminds me of my several-year-attempt to convince PETA and several

airlines to take most commercial yogurts (like Dannon & Yoplait) off

their " OK " list for vegetarians (not vegans, obviously) because they use

" kosher gelatin " . In other words, gelatin made from the hooves of

ritually slaughtered cows rather than conventionally slaughtered pigs.

Big difference, hmmm? <g>

 

<<I am breast feeding my daughter but I thought it would be nice to have

something for an emergency, like if my Mom babysat while we went out of

town for the day and she ran out of pumped breast milk, or something

like that>>

 

I hope this doesn't bother anyone, but....if you really are talking

about just a quick stop-gap for one extra feeding, I don't see why you

can't use fortified soy milk. Yes, I know, it's not actually formula,

and there are cautions everywhere on the cartons to not use it as such.

But one feeding isn't that big a deal if you're normally breastfeeding.

You know? I did that a few times with my daughter, and it didn't hurt

her.

 

Liz

 

MODERATORS' COMMENT:

Liz's suggestion is a reasonable one IF (and this is a big IF) your baby is

close to a year old or older, has eaten a wide variety of foods, and this is

a very occasional practice (less than 1 bottle, once a week). The reason

for all these qualifiers is that breast milk is truly best for young babies.

I'd be quite concerned about reactions to some of the things in soy milk in

a young baby or one who hasn't already been exposed to a variety of foods.

There have been recent reports of infants developing various nutritional

deficiencies from being regularly fed soy or rice milk instead of breast

milk or infant formula. That's why I suggest using soy milk to replace

breast milk only in an older baby and only very occasionally.

 

Reed Mangels, PhD, RD

Nutrition Advisor, VRG

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It's unfortunate that there isn't a vegan artificial

breast milk (ABM), but I think what's more unfortunate

is the unsafety of ABM in general.

 

Sara

 

--- " Theron & amp; Summer " <tasroe wrote:

> I just called Enfamil and after being transfered

> *many* times, and

> being called back I found out the D3 is a synthetic

> which is derived

> from lanolin. So I would not consider it to be vegan

> and I am going

> to email the person who wrote the article I read.

> It was just so very bothersome having to explain

> what vegan was and

> then have them say say " it's vegetarian " and that

> " the sheep didn't

> die from it " and they are " probably ok with it " , in

> regards to the

> lanolin being sheep derived.

> Urrrrrgggg.....it just makes me mad, can't they use

> D2 or something?

> I am breast feeding my daughter but I thought it

> would be nice to

> have something for an emergency, like if my Mom

> babysat while we went

> out of town for the day and she ran out of pumped

> breast milk, or

> something like that, oh well.

>

> Summer

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/5/2001 5:21:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

bodhiwork writes:

 

 

> It's unfortunate that there isn't a vegan artificial

> breast milk (ABM), but I think what's more unfortunate

> is the unsafety of ABM in general.

>

>

 

In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this society even needs artificial

breastmilk.

 

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>In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this society even needs artificial

>breastmilk.

 

>Sara

>Colin's Ap Mama

 

I really enjoy lurking on this list and have learned a lot. However,

statements like this freak me out. Please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not make

blanket judgements about this issue and if you could find it in your heart

to be a bit sensitive, that would be nice too. I desperately wanted to

breast feed my now 18-month-old. I hooked up with LaLeche, I chose a

pediatrician who strongly endorsed breastfeeding and his nurse

practitioner was a lactation consultant. Due to a structural problem with

my breasts, it was not possible -- there was no way for the milk to get

out. The ped and nurse prac worked with the LaLeche people and they even

got me in to see a breast specialist who said it was just not possible --

even with surgical intervention. I could bottle feed her or let her

starve. In a different day and age she would have starved and perhaps you

believe that that should have been my choice when faced with the decision.

My formula-fed daughter is a healthy, happy, bright well-adjusted,

well-bonded child. Her well-being had to take precedence over my

convictions about breast feeding. Sara and others...what exactly would

you have done in my situation??

 

Carol

Mom to Lucia, 18 months

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You do, ofcourse realize that there are some medical reasons that

people do need to use infant formula, don't you?

 

Summer

 

, colinsapmama@a... wrote:

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> In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this society even needs

artificial

> breastmilk.

>

> Sara

> Colin's Ap Mama

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children.

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In a message dated 4/5/01 9:03:38 AM Central Daylight Time,

colinsapmama writes:

 

 

> In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this society even needs artificial

> breastmilk.

>

>

 

I am currently nursing my 6 month-old-twin daughters and my 2.5 year-old son.

My son never had formula as an infant, however, I do occassionally need to

feed one of my daughters formula. She will only nurse when she is

sleeping--don't know why, but it's been this way for three months. I am

almost always able to nurse her right as she is waking up--but if I don't get

to her within a few seconds she will not nurse. I was expressing milk for

awhile and giving it to her in a cup when this happened, but just don't have

time to pump anymore. Some of us in this society do occassionally need

alternatives to breastmilk. Unfortunate? Perhaps. But hey, we're all just

trying to do the best that we can, right?

 

peace,

Angela

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/6/2001 5:11:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

ccl writes:

 

 

> . Please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not make

> blanket judgements about this issue and if you could find it in your heart

>

 

I can see that this probably isn't the best place to have this discussion. I

didn't think that I was being insensitive.

 

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