Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Hi all, I have been meaning ot write but this list is a little overwhelming to me! A lot of posts! Any how, I have been Vegan for 3 weeks now and it is a struggle to say the least. I have run into a lot of problems with my kids not wanting to eat new things and just about every single product we use contains animal products in it! It is really hard. Does anyone know where to get help with this? what do you use to wash the kids in, like baby bath?? Foods are really a problem. They like smart dogs, but they cant eat them everyday. I just discovered cheese in the chickenless nuggets and boca burgers! It seems almost impossible to get away from animal products!! HELP!! And what are all those mystery ingredients in stuff?? Like lotions and stuff like that?? I just need some direction. If this has been a subject that you all have visited a million times, maybe someone can email me privately. Anything will help. Thank you, Jo-Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 There's a good book that's recently been published called 'Becoming Vegan " by Vesanto Melina, RD (registered dietitian) and Brenda Davis, RD. It should give you some of the help you need. Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Jo-Ann, Where do you live? Some places have great coops where you can get vegan products. We eat a lot of tofu, soy milk, veggies, beans, grains and fruit Otherwise, there's always the web or ordering by catalog. I have a 2 year old and order soap, products for her, and shoes for the family via the internet. Here are some sources I've found helpful. PETA has resources at: http://www.peta.org/pm/index.html There's a vegan store called Pangea that has kids stuff and baby products http://www.veganstore.com/index.html Vegan village is an online resource for vegan shopping. It's based in the UK, so most businesses are also based there. http://www.veganvillage.co.uk/shops.htm The vegetarian resource group has some good information. http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/ The ecomall has some vegan options, although not all of the businesses are vegan, so you have to look around. http://www.ecomall.com/ Good luck! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 LamourDelaVie wrote: > Foods are really a problem. They like smart dogs, but they cant eat > them everyday. I just discovered cheese in the chickenless nuggets > and boca burgers! It seems almost impossible to get away from animal > products!! HELP!! Boca burgers come in several varieties, some of which are vegan. Look for the ones marked " Vegan Original. " I believe there are one or two other flavors that are also vegan, but you'll need to read the label to figure out which ones. I don't know what kinds of stores are in your area, but if you have a Fresh Fields/Whole Foods/Bread & Circus store, they usually carry a wide selection of vegan convenience foods which tend to appeal to kids. The Amy's line makes a cheeseless pizza that we *love* in my house (and I'm not referring to the kids!). A well-stocked co-op or natural foods store may carry these products as well. It may also help if you get your kids involved in food selection, either by taking them shopping with you or by picking out recipes and preparing them together. Kids are often more receptive to food they are involved in " creating " personally. > And what are all those mystery ingredients in stuff?? Like lotions > and stuff like that?? Honestly, I have no idea what most of those ingredients are. I usually stick to products that are labelled " cruelty-free " and say they don't contain animal products. I'm sure some of those companies differ with me on what they consider animal products, though, since I've seen lanolin listed on bottles that were also labelled animal product-free. You just do the best you can do. I learned pretty quickly that it's not possible to be a " perfect " vegan, especially when you take into consideration products like film and tires that are nearly impossible to eliminate completely from your life, yet don't offer animal-free alternatives at all. You may finding switching to a vegan lifestyle more managable (and your family more receptive to the change) if you focus on one area of your life at a time. For instance, you might work on eliminating " obvious " animal foods from your diet first, then " hidden " ones, before moving on to purging the house of any cleaners, make-up, shampoos, etc., that might contain animal products. Doing everything at once is going to feel overwhelming to almost anyone, especially if you're trying to get other, somewhat reluctant people (your family) to make the change with you. Doing things piecemeal may make it more likely that you will succeed in the long-run rather than burning out and giving up. IMO, it's okay to do things bit by bit rather than all at once if that's what's going to make the change work for you. Each step forward is a step forward. Don't beat yourself for not having completed the marathon yet when you've just crossed over the starting line. You've got time. ---- Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 I live in Florida and would love to know what a coop is! I have heard of them online in discussion groups, but never quite figured out what it is. Thanks for the info Jo-Ann , Caroline Weaver <Caroline_Weaver@n...> wrote: > Jo-Ann, > Where do you live? Some places have great coops where you can get vegan products. We eat a lot of tofu, soy milk, veggies, beans, grains and fruit Otherwise, there's always > the web or ordering by catalog. I have a 2 year old and order soap, products for her, and shoes for the family via the internet. Here are some sources I've found helpful. > > PETA has resources at: > http://www.peta.org/pm/index.html > > There's a vegan store called Pangea that has kids stuff and baby products > http://www.veganstore.com/index.html > > Vegan village is an online resource for vegan shopping. It's based in the UK, so most businesses are also based there. > http://www.veganvillage.co.uk/shops.htm > > The vegetarian resource group has some good information. > http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/ > > The ecomall has some vegan options, although not all of the businesses are vegan, so you have to look around. > http://www.ecomall.com/ > > Good luck! > Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Thanks for the info! BTW, is Amy's cheeseless pizza " cheezzy " ?? Meaning, does it have actual white stretchy stuff on it that tasts like cheese with out casien??? If so, you made my day !!! LOL!! Also, I found a line of products by newvision that my mom just started selling that claim to be cruelity free. does that mean that they dont contain animal products too usually?? I may email them to make sure. Thanks again, Jo-Ann , Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia@o...> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 LamourDelaVie@a... wrote: > > > Foods are really a problem. They like smart dogs, but they cant eat > > them everyday. I just discovered cheese in the chickenless nuggets > > and boca burgers! It seems almost impossible to get away from animal > > products!! HELP!! > > Boca burgers come in several varieties, some of which are vegan. Look for > the ones marked " Vegan Original. " I believe there are one or two other > flavors that are also vegan, but you'll need to read the label to figure > out which ones. > > I don't know what kinds of stores are in your area, but if you have a > Fresh Fields/Whole Foods/Bread & Circus store, they usually carry a wide > selection of vegan convenience foods which tend to appeal to kids. The > Amy's line makes a cheeseless pizza that we *love* in my house (and I'm > not referring to the kids!). A well-stocked co-op or natural foods store > may carry these products as well. It may also help if you get your kids > involved in food selection, either by taking them shopping with you or by > picking out recipes and preparing them together. Kids are often more > receptive to food they are involved in " creating " personally. > > > And what are all those mystery ingredients in stuff?? Like lotions > > and stuff like that?? > > Honestly, I have no idea what most of those ingredients are. I usually > stick to products that are labelled " cruelty-free " and say they don't > contain animal products. I'm sure some of those companies differ with me > on what they consider animal products, though, since I've seen lanolin > listed on bottles that were also labelled animal product-free. You just > do the best you can do. I learned pretty quickly that it's not possible > to be a " perfect " vegan, especially when you take into consideration > products like film and tires that are nearly impossible to eliminate > completely from your life, yet don't offer animal-free alternatives at > all. > > You may finding switching to a vegan lifestyle more managable (and your > family more receptive to the change) if you focus on one area of your life > at a time. For instance, you might work on eliminating " obvious " animal > foods from your diet first, then " hidden " ones, before moving on to > purging the house of any cleaners, make-up, shampoos, etc., that might > contain animal products. Doing everything at once is going to feel > overwhelming to almost anyone, especially if you're trying to get other, > somewhat reluctant people (your family) to make the change with you. > Doing things piecemeal may make it more likely that you will succeed in > the long-run rather than burning out and giving up. IMO, it's okay to do > things bit by bit rather than all at once if that's what's going to make > the change work for you. Each step forward is a step forward. Don't beat > yourself for not having completed the marathon yet when you've just > crossed over the starting line. You've got time. > > ---- > Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia@o...> > > The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered > three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the > purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each > nonexisted in an entirely different way ... > -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 --- Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia wrote: > Boca burgers come in several varieties, some of > which are vegan. Look for > the ones marked " Vegan Original. " Vegan Original is the only vegan burger they make, and they actually sell them at Costco for a good price. > You may finding switching to a vegan lifestyle more > managable (and your > family more receptive to the change) if you focus on > one area of your life > at a time.... IMO, it's okay to do > things bit by bit rather than all at once if that's > what's going to make > the change work for you. Each step forward is a > step forward. Don't beat > yourself for not having completed the marathon yet > when you've just > crossed over the starting line. You've got time. I agree with this. When we decided to make the switch, rather than toss out every household product and pair of shoes we owned, we decided to use them up. Obviously, some things we just couldn't get through from a gag reflex, but it made no sense to throw them away. As we ran out of things, we began buying the friendly alternatives. As we could afford to replace things like shoes and jackets, we donated our old ones. Ingredient-wise, the cookbook HOW IT ALL VEGAN has a glossary list of animal ingredients that I have found extremely helpful when checking cosmetics and shampoos, etc. With a reluctant bunch, I would try first replacing the meat products with substitutes (Gimme Lean, tvp, tofu, and meat analogs). VEGAN VITTLES has an excellent cheeze sauce recipe for macaroni or drizzling over steamed veggies. I bet it would taste great on pizza. Best of luck. Sara Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 << Each step forward is a step forward. Don't beat yourself for not having completed the marathon yet when you've just crossed over the starting line. You've got time. >> Wow That is a really nice thing to say.... It's true, I'm trying to go Vegan too, It is hard... Mia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Jo-Ann, My favorite vegan cookbook is called Vegan Vittles by Joanne Stephaniak. It includes veganized recipes for all kinds stuff like meat (seitan) loaf, BBQ (seitan) ribs, fake cheeses, great tofu marinades, and fabulous desserts. Good luck, you made such a good decision for your family, Linda _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Heya! I live in Florida too! :-) Jacksonville to be specific... Stephanie , LamourDelaVie@a... wrote: > I live in Florida and would love to know what a coop is! I have > heard of them online in discussion groups, but never quite figured > out what it is. Thanks for the info > > Jo-Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Howdy neighbor! LOL...but it is still like 7 hours from Ft. Lauderdale! Its such a long state Jo-Ann , delairen wrote: > Heya! I live in Florida too! :-) Jacksonville to be specific... > > Stephanie > > > > , LamourDelaVie@a... wrote: > > I live in Florida and would love to know what a coop is! I have > > heard of them online in discussion groups, but never quite figured > > out what it is. Thanks for the info > > > > Jo-Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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