Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 > You pose the same sort of question people ask about milk and eggs. Is it ok > to consume these animal products if the cow or chicken was treated humanely? > Well, that answer is up to each individual person. I for one feel it is > always wrong. Cow's milk is nutritionally perfect for calves and is never > something I would feed to a human. And at the risk of opening Pandora's > Box, I say that to me eating chicken eggs is the same as eating a human > embryo. Sadly, most honey is not made the way your grandfather made it. > > Now, that you bring it up eggs it reminds me. When the combs are taken from the hives there is also larva, some alive and some dead, that is taken out also and deposed of if clarified. OK, one more question out of curiosity. The eggs that are sold are not allowed to become fertilized, which means there is no embryo. What state do you suppose chickens would be in if the eggs were never eaten? Just thinking about it while I am asking, I would think that, first of all, they wouldn't lay so many eggs, which I am sure is not good for them to lay more than normal of. But what else? Would they still have unfertilized eggs? Or would they have less eggs and the ones that they have would result in chicks and motherhood? This one, now that I thought of it, is the saddest of all. All this egg laying that these chickens do and they never get rewarded with being able to mother their chicks. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Most of the eggs that are sold today are from factory farms. The treatment of the chickens there is attrocious. Five or six hens are kept in wire cages so small that none of the hens can walk about, much less spread their wings. And then there's debeaking--chicks beaks are seared off with a device much like a hot curling iron. Accuracy in this practice does not count for much. The egg industry makes money off of the hen's egg production, so the environment in which the hens live is artifically controlled to make the hens lay more eggs than they normally would. Most eggs are sold unfertilized, but some eggs are hatched to produce the next generation of chickens. Of the eggs that hatch, some produce female chicks and some produce male chicks. Male chicks can't lay eggs and are therefore useless. 280 million male chicks are tossed in plastic bags and left to suffocate from lack of air when the bag is tied shut or from the weight of the bodies of the chicks above them. The male chicks produced by the egg industry can't be raised for food because they weren't bred to have enough " meat " on their bones (i.e. muscle). Left to their own devices, chickens would regulate their egg production. For more details on eggs and a much better explanation to the answers to your question, check out United Poultry Concerns at http://www.upc-online.org/ >Now, that you bring it up eggs it reminds me. When the combs are taken >from the hives there is also larva, some alive and some dead, that is taken >out also and deposed of if clarified. > >OK, one more question out of curiosity. The eggs that are sold are not >allowed to become fertilized, which means there is no embryo. What state >do >you suppose chickens would be in if the eggs were never eaten? >Just thinking about it while I am asking, I would think that, first of all, >they wouldn't lay so many eggs, which I am sure is not good for them to lay >more than normal of. But what else? Would they still have unfertilized >eggs? Or would they have less eggs and the ones that they have would >result >in chicks and motherhood? This one, now that I thought of it, is the >saddest of all. All this egg laying that these chickens do and they never >get rewarded with being able to mother their chicks. >Any thoughts? > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2001 Report Share Posted May 25, 2001 > Most of the eggs that are sold today are from factory farms. The treatment > of the chickens there is attrocious Thanks for sharing, but I already knew about this. No need to debate this horrific issues with me. <shudder> I was thinking about family farm conditions. The small chicken coop that my grandparents had that was only for them and their family is quite different. I guess I should have stated this in my musings. I am already a convert. I was just wondering if and how even family chickens would be different. They seem to lay so many unfertilized eggs. I do also know that unless there is a rooster around that they won't lay eggs. Maybe this also has alot to do with it. Maybe in the wild they wouldn't be around a rooster all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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