Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 I would like to make a few clarifications on some of the things I've said recently. I realized after I had sent in my responses, I had forgotten to point a few things out. I must admit I made an error when I said that lact-ovo vegetarians are just as unhealthy as non-vegetarians. What I should have said is that lacto-ovo vegetarians can be as unhealthy as non-vegetarians. There are heavy smokers, eat-meat-three-meals-a-day, pour-salt-over-all-their-food people who live to be 110. There are also people who have heart attacks, though they were vegetarians (usually due to high stress). When I referred to lacto-ovo vegetarians, I meant true lacto-ovo vegetarians not strict vegetarians (by which I mean inividuals that eat no meat or dairy, usually for health resons. Occasionally, strict vegetarians will eat dairy or even meat because they have no moral objection to abstain from it). When I refer to health, I mean primarily heart disease and cholesterol, since heatrt disease is the #1 killer in the US [although, some studies have found lacto-ovo vegetarians to have the same risk for cancer as non-vegetarians (Food for Life, Dr. Neal Barnard)]. Second, Dr. Ornish does allow a small bit of dairy (non-fat)in his program, though very little. Dr. Ornish's diet is usually considered to be vegan for the most part - it's at least closer to the vegan diet than the lacto-vegetarian diet. Most of the other doctors that use a plant-based diet do not allow any dairy. The 20 year Bogalusa Study found that virtually all Americans (those not on a plant-based diet) have varying degrees of heart disease (A Vegetarian Doctor Speaks Out, Dr. Charles Attwood).` For every 100 mg of cholesterol consumed from milk, cheese, etc., the overall cholesterol level usually increases 5 points (Food for Life, Dr. Barnard). It has been found that individuals with cholesterol levels under 150 mg/dL do not have heart attacks, and exercise alone will not counterract an unhealthy diet(high simple sugar intake and fat intake over 15%, high stress, etc.)(A Vegetarian Doctor Speaks Out, Dr. Attwood). Anyone seen the new cholesterol medication commercial? It says something like 1 in 5 has cholesterol levels over 250 mg/dL (I'm sorry, I can't remember the exact figure) and most people don't know they're at risk. If one does take in dairy occasionally, consider stopping altogether. Dairy cows are raised in the most inhumane conditions (even organic cows), live four years instead of the usual 20, and dairy production directly supplies the veal industry. I know many of you will probably think I'm being preachy, and in a way I am. But you must realize I have devoted the past six months to researching veganism, beginning when I found out about the horrors of dairy industry. Whatever is your own beliefs, this cannot be denied - humans do not need dairy products to survive and it's very painful for the cows. Raquela Sgro-Gibson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Raquela... Very well stated! BRAVO!! We are fortunate to have you in the group. M --- rsgrogibson <rsgrogibson wrote: > I would like to make a few clarifications on > some of the things > I've said recently. I realized after I had sent in > my responses, I > had forgotten to point a few things out. I must > admit I made an > error when I said that lact-ovo vegetarians are just > as unhealthy as > non-vegetarians. What I should have said is that > lacto-ovo > vegetarians can be as unhealthy as non-vegetarians. > There are heavy > smokers, eat-meat-three-meals-a-day, > pour-salt-over-all-their-food > people who live to be 110. There are also people > who have heart > attacks, though they were vegetarians (usually due > to high stress). > When I referred to lacto-ovo vegetarians, I meant > true lacto-ovo > vegetarians not strict vegetarians (by which I mean > inividuals that > eat no meat or dairy, usually for health resons. > Occasionally, > strict vegetarians will eat dairy or even meat > because they have no > moral objection to abstain from it). When I refer > to health, I mean > primarily heart disease and cholesterol, since > heatrt disease is the > #1 killer in the US [although, some studies have > found lacto-ovo > vegetarians to have the same risk for cancer as > non-vegetarians (Food > for Life, Dr. Neal Barnard)]. Second, Dr. Ornish > does allow a small > bit of dairy (non-fat)in his program, though very > little. Dr. > Ornish's diet is usually considered to be vegan for > the most part - > it's at least closer to the vegan diet than the > lacto-vegetarian > diet. Most of the other doctors that use a > plant-based diet do not > allow any dairy. > > The 20 year Bogalusa Study found that virtually > all Americans > (those not on a plant-based diet) have varying > degrees of heart > disease (A Vegetarian Doctor Speaks Out, Dr. Charles > Attwood).` For > every 100 mg of cholesterol consumed from milk, > cheese, etc., the > overall cholesterol level usually increases 5 points > (Food for Life, > Dr. Barnard). It has been found that individuals > with cholesterol > levels under 150 mg/dL do not have heart attacks, > and exercise alone > will not counterract an unhealthy diet(high simple > sugar intake and > fat intake over 15%, high stress, etc.)(A Vegetarian > Doctor Speaks > Out, Dr. Attwood). Anyone seen the new cholesterol > medication > commercial? It says something like 1 in 5 has > cholesterol levels > over 250 mg/dL (I'm sorry, I can't remember the > exact figure) and > most people don't know they're at risk. > > If one does take in dairy occasionally, consider > stopping > altogether. Dairy cows are raised in the most > inhumane conditions > (even organic cows), live four years instead of the > usual 20, and > dairy production directly supplies the veal > industry. > > I know many of you will probably think I'm being > preachy, and in a > way I am. But you must realize I have devoted the > past six months to > researching veganism, beginning when I found out > about the horrors of > dairy industry. Whatever is your own beliefs, this > cannot be denied - > humans do not need dairy products to survive and > it's very painful > for the cows. > > Raquela Sgro-Gibson > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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