Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 Hi, we're a vegetarian (minimal lacto-ovo) family from Indianapolis, IN. My dh does occasionally eat some fish and chicken, but the kids follow my diet. Hunter is 5 and Henry is 15 mos. There's no organized group for veg*n families in THIS city, but I've been lucky to find several in our attachment parenting group! Any chance that anyone on this list is from Indy? We do belong to the Indpls Vegn Soc which was just formed a year ago. It would be fun to organize family playgroups from this group, but the membership is still quite low and I've only met one mother with a younger child. Has anyone attempted to do this in your area? Any hints? Also, one veggie friend of mine sent this article to me written by Stephen Byrnes. Have any of you heard of him? He is certainly down on veg*nism and tries to debunk many of the beliefs of vegns. calling them myths! He cites many references to studies, etc. but certainly sounds like a quack to me. Any thoughts on the article? http://www.powerhealth.net/selected_articles.htm Look forward to future chats, Laura Mom to Hunter (6 Jan 1997) and Henry (3 Oct 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 I don't know, this article has some truth and some plain old " bs " in it. It is true that a diet totally devoid of fats is not healthy, as vitamins A, E and D are fat soluble vitamins and cannot be properly processed without fat, but that doesn't mean that one has to load his/her diet with items rich in saturated fat and cholesterol (i.e. meat, butter, etc.) Extra virgin olive oil is a fat, a vegetable fat, and it's a good fat. Also, all the myths he lists, some are sort of made up, like people don't necessarily claim exactly what he says. For instance, on the list we have been talking plentiful about vitamin B12 and other supplements, while he's promoting that " vegetarians and vegans don't take any supplement because they think their diet is perfect " . Claim #5 is really plain false. I live in Switzerland, where they eat a lot of animal products, and I can tell you cancer here does happen and pretty often too (without going too far, my MIL has just finished chemotherapy and is starting radiation soon to " cure " her breast cancer, and a very good friend of mine just got operated to remove a carcinoma in her uterus). And the Swiss traditional way of eating, pairing up meat and white buttered pasta or similar meals, was the main cause of my excessive weight gain during pregnancy, when I moved over here. The point is not only how much meat, but how much fat, especially trans fats and saturated fats one consumes, and that's why in Mediterranean areas (like France, which is what he mentions) heart disease rates are low. To " MYTH #15: Eating animal foods is inhumane. " he answers saying that " It is possible to raise animals humanely. " so how does that make killing them less mean? Anyway, this is not an article, but rather a pathetic attempt to make vegetarianism seem wrong with no fundament whatsoever. Any regimen that doesn't offer a variety of foods and therefore limits the intake of valuable nutritional elements is bad. A vegetarian who only eats lettuce and beans won't be healthy, just like a person who eats only meat and pasta. But a varied, well balanced diet is more common amongst vegetarians or near-vegetarians than omnivores. Hugs, " My darling girl, when are you going to understand that being normal isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage! " Aunt Frances in Practical Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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