Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Do most all of the Veggies Tales have a Christian theme? The only one I've seen is the story of " Esther the girl who would be Queen " (we're Jewish) and the kids really liked it...I was considering getting others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 ...Judaism does not hold that > everything has a consciousness. > If everything had a consciousness..I'd have to consider how the covers felt about > that. Phil, **My Orthodox Rabbi here in Jerusalem feels the same way--he can't get his mind around the idea-- though he does admit that the tradition holds strong to the premise. Let me know if you want sources. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Neil, I had noticed from your e-mail address that you were writing from Israel and I was expecting a response to my comments, I was also expecting the Kabalists to pop up in this. I actually would like to hear your sources. My daughter did a " paper " on arguments for vegetarianism for her Talmud class at Hebrew U. in Jerusalem last semester, I will probably forward your source information to her, so she and I can scratch our collective head over it. Please respond off line, directly to my e-mail though since this is probably not appropriate for this list. Phil Welsher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 > everything that creeps on the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I give According to the Kabalists, creation was some kind of " breaking of the vessels " and the (consciousness) sparks of holiness got scattered into just about everything. That's why it's said that when people eat they are " raising up (integrating/making use of) the sparks " that are in the food. Many argue that Judaism is headed towards a vegetarian future (especially after the coming of the Messianic Age when most everyone agrees the world is vegetarian) in animal food, there is a greater concentration of sparks, which are somehow more difficult to " raise up " . Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Ofcourse being vegan is totally Kosher. I often wondered why Jews who are so observant in a lot of other ways miss this. Our rabbi agrees that vegetarianism is the way people will be in the messianic age...so far it doesn't appear that they'll be giving up eggs (they are in everything!)any time soon... kef wrote: > > > everything that creeps on the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I > give > > According to the Kabalists, creation was some kind of " breaking of the > vessels " and the (consciousness) sparks of holiness got scattered into just > about everything. That's why it's said that when people eat they are > " raising up (integrating/making use of) the sparks " that are in the food. > > Many argue that Judaism is headed towards a vegetarian future (especially > after the coming of the Messianic Age when most everyone agrees the world is > vegetarian) in animal food, there is a greater concentration of sparks, > which are somehow more difficult to " raise up " . > > Neil > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 I'm not appalled. Actually I shouldn't be commenting on this as I've only seen one episode, over a friend's house. Our children don't watch tv, maybe an hour a week, so I'm mostly appalled with the way tv disintegrates the young mind. Be kind, be of good cheer! Bonnie , " Deb Proen " <deb_proen@h...> wrote: > I am shocked at your comments on Veggie Tales. Many of the veggie tale > video's are about values that most people want in their children, like > sharing, honesty. They mention God but I don't remember hearing Jesus > though I have seen only a few. I consider them Judeo-Christian. I would > think even buddhists want their kids to know how to share. > > If the video's had similar values but were presented in a new age way, would > you still be so appalled? > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " bonbonsaresweet " <friedenbach@s...> > > > Re: " Veggie Tales " > Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:16:51 -0000 > > Yes, that is what its main thrust is: Christianity. I don't like > it. I don't let my children watch tv hardly at all and what I do let > them watch I prefer to be Mister Rogers Neighborhood or a sing a long > songs video occasionally. It irks me to see Christian values taught > in this way, and I'm not even sure why. It has nothing to do with > vegetarianism though. > > , patricelfarmer@w... wrote: > > I thought it was about vegetables too until we were sitting at the > > Peditrician and they were playing it. All of the magazines around us > > were Christian and so was the Veggie Tales. My daughter looked at me > > surprised because we were thinking of buying it because of it's > name but > > we're Buddhist _______________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 > They mention God but I don't remember hearing Jesus > though I have seen only a few. I've never seen any of them, but friends who have seen them have told me that they have both OT and NT stories. > I consider them Judeo-Christian. I would > think even buddhists want their kids to know how to share. I consider them Christian and inappropriate for a Jewish child, though I wouldn't try to speak for anyone of another religion. Sandra > If the video's had similar values but were presented in a new age way, would > you still be so appalled? If they were specific to my religion, I might be less disturbed by them, but then again... maybe not. I'd have to see them to be sure. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Umm... OT isn't Jewish. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Yes, they do. I wouldn't, personally, give these things to our chilren. (We're Jewish, too). Sandra - > Do most all of the Veggies Tales have a Christian theme? The only one > I've seen is the story of " Esther the girl who would be Queen " (we're > Jewish) and the kids really liked it...I was considering getting > others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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