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Hi! Just wanted to share a word about Veggie Tales.

We have all of them and I'm racking my brain but I can't think of any that

contain anything a Jewish family would be opposed to. Most are either

telling a story focusing on a particular vice or virtue (eg. greed,

selfishness, fear, kindness, etc.) or are adorable reenactments of Old

Testament happenings (eg. Daniel and the lions, David and Goliath, Esther,

etc.). The only New Testament reference I can think of is a rhyming story

of the Good Samaritan. There's also another video called 321 Penguins by

the same company. It teaches about patience and it's hilarious. Just to

let you know, even though they're " veggie tales " , they have nothing to do

with vegetarianism and some of them do contain some references to

non-vegetarian food. Anyway, our whole vegan family loves them! :)

 

andrea

 

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> Digest Number 364

>6 Mar 2002 14:43:36 -0000

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>For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

>http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

>http://www.vrg.org/family.

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Hi all-

I'm not sure if this is how you post a message but I have a question for all

of you parents with vegetarian toddlers. I have a one year old that has

recently started a daycare center. In three months he will be moving to the

toddler room where they have " family style " meals where the food is all laid

out on the table and the toddlers are encouraged to feed themselves. I

discussed with the program coordinator that our family is vegetarian and he

should not have any of the meat and I will either bring vegetarian meat

substitutes, some other alternative or the center will provide the

substitute. She seemed happy to accommodate us but she did raise an issue

that I am a little confused about how to handle and wanted to ask for some

other opinions. She asked how to handle it if he doesn't understand why he

can't have what the others are having. I thought he would be delighted to

have his own special meal but she brought up the fact that part of this time

is social and when they are all digging in, to stop him and tell him he

can't have something may upset him. I fell very strongly that I want him to

remain a vegetarian like his parents but as a new mom, I am unsure about how

you reason with a 15 month old and I don't want to damage his self esteem

either. How have other parents of toddlers in daycare handled this?

 

Thanks, I look forward to hearing your responses!

 

Yamani

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Yamani;

being different will not hurt your self esteem .I actually believe it

will build character. Eating meat will make him sick. What if he were

diabetic and every one had candy at snack time. Would we allow

him to have candy too. Although it would be dangerous? Well this is the same

situation. Meat causes many diseases.If the people that choose to eat meat

donot want to recognize these facts that's their business. If you don't want

to engage it a lot

of dialogue about the diet merely state this is our religion. That stops all

conversation. Also by claiming it as religon the folks at the day care will

be more

in tune to repecting your wishes.

Lynda

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I would think it's pretty hard to reason with a 15 month old, and explain

why he can't eat something that other kids are eating. At 2 to 3 years old,

they would be able to understand that a food is not vegetarian because it's

an animal, but before then, that would be tough. I would wonder how this

day care handles food allergies. I mean, if a kid is allergic to dairy or

nuts or something, obviously that child can't eat some of the foods on the

table. I would use that basic approach until my child is old enough to

comprehend what foods are veg and what are not. There's nothing wrong with

you wanting to " enforce " the vegism while your child is so young, and you

shouldn't give in on that.

 

 

Yamani Johnson-Taylor [yamani]

Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:41 PM

 

RE: Digest Number 364

 

 

 

 

Hi all-

I'm not sure if this is how you post a message but I have a question for all

of you parents with vegetarian toddlers. I have a one year old that has

recently started a daycare center. In three months he will be moving to the

toddler room where they have " family style " meals where the food is all laid

out on the table and the toddlers are encouraged to feed themselves. I

discussed with the program coordinator that our family is vegetarian and he

should not have any of the meat and I will either bring vegetarian meat

substitutes, some other alternative or the center will provide the

substitute. She seemed happy to accommodate us but she did raise an issue

that I am a little confused about how to handle and wanted to ask for some

other opinions. She asked how to handle it if he doesn't understand why he

can't have what the others are having. I thought he would be delighted to

have his own special meal but she brought up the fact that part of this time

is social and when they are all digging in, to stop him and tell him he

can't have something may upset him. I fell very strongly that I want him to

remain a vegetarian like his parents but as a new mom, I am unsure about how

you reason with a 15 month old and I don't want to damage his self esteem

either. How have other parents of toddlers in daycare handled this?

 

Thanks, I look forward to hearing your responses!

 

Yamani

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

 

 

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Yamani~

I am quite sure that you cannot " reason " with a 15 month old, that

sounds like a terrible exercise in futility to me! I am also not

sure how you could dissuade him from eating prepared meat that is

laid out family style. If I were you I would look for another child

care setting, this issue may just be too much for you or the director

to handle unless he is willing to go veg.

But if you decide to make a go of it and the director tries to keep

your curious toddler from meat day after day with something like " you

don't eat meat " while all the other kids do... your child won't

understand why he is different, and he will probably eventually try

the meat. You have to be prepared for that eventuality. Then you

will be angry and the supervisor will be angry at the added

responsibility of keeping your child away from meat (and who knows

what the ramifications of that are...) and I just think it will not

end well.

Sorry to be such a doomsday mom but I have had a lot of experience in

this area.

My best to you and let us know how it turns out.

Bonnie

 

(PS my 2 yo constantly tries to steal the bacon off my dh's dish when

we go out to breakfast. She thinks it's funny when I say we don't

eat meat. She says " no IIII eat meat " . See what I mean about

inability to reason? LOL!!)

 

, Yamani Johnson-Taylor <yamani@g...> wrote:

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> Hi all-

> I'm not sure if this is how you post a message but I have a

question for all

> of you parents with vegetarian toddlers. I have a one year old that

has

> recently started a daycare center. In three months he will be

moving to the

> toddler room where they have " family style " meals where the food is

all laid

> out on the table and the toddlers are encouraged to feed

themselves. I

> discussed with the program coordinator that our family is

vegetarian and he

> should not have any of the meat and I will either bring vegetarian

meat

> substitutes, some other alternative or the center will provide the

> substitute. She seemed happy to accommodate us but she did raise

an issue

> that I am a little confused about how to handle and wanted to ask

for some

> other opinions. She asked how to handle it if he doesn't understand

why he

> can't have what the others are having. I thought he would be

delighted to

> have his own special meal but she brought up the fact that part of

this time

> is social and when they are all digging in, to stop him and tell

him he

> can't have something may upset him. I fell very strongly that I

want him to

> remain a vegetarian like his parents but as a new mom, I am unsure

about how

> you reason with a 15 month old and I don't want to damage his self

esteem

> either. How have other parents of toddlers in daycare handled this?

>

> Thanks, I look forward to hearing your responses!

>

> Yamani

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Some of us have learned to walk between the drops.

 

On Sunday, May 11, 2003, at 04:39 AM,

wrote:

 

> Aren't most vegetables rained on???

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Like water, the sage should wait for the moment to

ripen and be right: water, you know, never fights:

it flows around without harm.

~Lao-tzu

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