Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Thanks to all who've sent messages, public and private, about the comments regarding marriage and morailty on the list. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who found the comments problematic, and that it's not the common tone of the list. Re: As someone mentioned, carageenan comes from seaweed and is a good vegan source of a thickener. Guar gum, agar, and carageenan are common thickeners for soy beverages. There's another one, oh yeah, arrowroot. There's another, _____ gum, can't remember the name, that is also common and vegan.... Re: nursing and itchy scalps. I think someone mentioned EFAs. Also cradle cap (sebborheic dermatitis). And water. Another thing to consider is your thyroid. Very common to have a thyroid problem after having a baby. Other symptoms include thinning hair (both thinner, and falling out), appetite changes, weight changes, heart palpitations..... Many more symptoms, which " cycle " so when you think you're better, you're really just changing one symptom for another. Something to think about (I have an overactive thyroid). Trin, especially, I would suggest you consider EFAs or other nutrient supplements because the fact that your diet and products haven't changed could be exactly the problem! As with cradle caps with kids, soaking the scalp in a nice oil (such as almond or apricot) will be very soothing. Re: night nursing (Lindsay) I'm not sure how long you have left your ds with his dad or babysitter to try to get him to fall asleep for them, so maybe you already know that he won't " give in " for a long long time, in which case you might try again in a few months when he's older (18 months is a magic mile-marker for understanding this, for some reason).... But if by " consoling him " you mean that your dh or sitter have put up with, say, 20 minutes of crying before you come to the rescue, then that's not a very long time, and he's learned that 20 minutes is a short time to wail if it'll produce You. Let me say that I'm not suggesting any sort of crying it out. Rather, I think that the baby will learn quickly that he is safe, loved, and attended even though you're not there, and as long as the caregiver can tolerate the crying (no easy task!) then you might let them try again for awhile, without being able to turn ds over to you (go to a movie!). There's a very good chance that your baby depends on *you* for night nursing/ comfort, but if you're not there, your ds might soon be fine without you. You may all find that after one night or two when you're not there to nurse him, he'll fall asleep pretty quickly. I never thought I could leave my son but when I decided to take the chance and go out for the evening (he was even younger than yours, 9 months) I got home to find out that although he'd stayed up later and fussed (not cried) for awhile, he eventually just fell asleep on my aunt's shoulder. After that, he didn't even fuss. And it was *very* rare that I left him with someone else at night, maybe 4 times in his first 2.5 years, but he still did fine. When you're nursing (as I still am) it's important for the nursing relationship not to become a source of contention for either of you. if it's becoming a source of frustration annoyance for you, you might want to take steps to ease the burden. Babies can understand that mamas have needs, too. Re: fishing hubby This would drive me nuts. But as always it might help to try standing in his shoes for a minute and see what he gains from this. Perhaps he's really finding this time with his dad so important that he's willing to let the fish suffering slide. After all (perhaps in his reasoning) he's not hurting animals nearly to the extent of most folks. And perhaps they are creating or nurturing a bond that they need, in a space that feels comfortable to his dad. Beyond that, being unmarried and unwilling to compromise, I gently suggest a compromise! Perhaps you can ask him, first of all, to be the one who has to explain to your dd why he goes fishing (don't know how old she is or if/when this will be an issue). And then you can reinforce with her that grampa has a different set of ethics, but that doesn't mean we don't love him or him us - but that her dad needs to spend time with his dad on a level that his dad feels comfortable. Another possible compromise is to ask your hubby to suddenly become a very bad fisherman - unable to catch a fish to save his life! haha. let his dad reel them in as he can, but ask if your dh would be willing to sabotage his own efforts to save a few fish. DS just woke up from his nap, so I'll sign off now! ~Doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 what does ds and dh stand for??? >Doh! <dohdriver > > > Re: several subjects (something for everyone!) >Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:30:06 -0500 > >Thanks to all who've sent messages, public and private, about the comments >regarding marriage and morailty on the list. I'm glad to know I'm not the >only one who found the comments problematic, and that it's not the common >tone of the list. > >Re: As someone mentioned, carageenan comes from seaweed and is a good vegan >source of a thickener. Guar gum, agar, and carageenan are common >thickeners >for soy beverages. There's another one, oh yeah, arrowroot. There's >another, _____ gum, can't remember the name, that is also common and >vegan.... > >Re: nursing and itchy scalps. I think someone mentioned EFAs. Also cradle >cap (sebborheic dermatitis). And water. Another thing to consider is your >thyroid. Very common to have a thyroid problem after having a baby. Other >symptoms include thinning hair (both thinner, and falling out), appetite >changes, weight changes, heart palpitations..... Many more symptoms, which > " cycle " so when you think you're better, you're really just changing one >symptom for another. Something to think about (I have an overactive >thyroid). >Trin, especially, I would suggest you consider EFAs or other nutrient >supplements because the fact that your diet and products haven't changed >could be exactly the problem! As with cradle caps with kids, soaking the >scalp in a nice oil (such as almond or apricot) will be very soothing. > >Re: night nursing (Lindsay) >I'm not sure how long you have left your ds with his dad or babysitter to >try to get him to fall asleep for them, so maybe you already know that he >won't " give in " for a long long time, in which case you might try again in >a >few months when he's older (18 months is a magic mile-marker for >understanding this, for some reason).... But if by " consoling him " you >mean >that your dh or sitter have put up with, say, 20 minutes of crying before >you come to the rescue, then that's not a very long time, and he's learned >that 20 minutes is a short time to wail if it'll produce You. > >Let me say that I'm not suggesting any sort of crying it out. Rather, I >think that the baby will learn quickly that he is safe, loved, and attended >even though you're not there, and as long as the caregiver can tolerate the >crying (no easy task!) then you might let them try again for awhile, >without >being able to turn ds over to you (go to a movie!). > >There's a very good chance that your baby depends on *you* for night >nursing/ comfort, but if you're not there, your ds might soon be fine >without you. You may all find that after one night or two when you're not >there to nurse him, he'll fall asleep pretty quickly. > >I never thought I could leave my son but when I decided to take the chance >and go out for the evening (he was even younger than yours, 9 months) I got >home to find out that although he'd stayed up later and fussed (not cried) >for awhile, he eventually just fell asleep on my aunt's shoulder. After >that, he didn't even fuss. And it was *very* rare that I left him with >someone else at night, maybe 4 times in his first 2.5 years, but he still >did fine. > >When you're nursing (as I still am) it's important for the nursing >relationship not to become a source of contention for either of you. if >it's becoming a source of frustration annoyance for you, you might want to >take steps to ease the burden. Babies can understand that mamas have >needs, >too. > >Re: fishing hubby >This would drive me nuts. But as always it might help to try standing in >his shoes for a minute and see what he gains from this. Perhaps he's >really >finding this time with his dad so important that he's willing to let the >fish suffering slide. After all (perhaps in his reasoning) he's not >hurting >animals nearly to the extent of most folks. And perhaps they are creating >or nurturing a bond that they need, in a space that feels comfortable to >his >dad. >Beyond that, being unmarried and unwilling to compromise, I gently suggest >a >compromise! Perhaps you can ask him, first of all, to be the one who >has to explain to your dd why he goes fishing (don't know how old she is or >if/when this will be an issue). And then you can reinforce with her that >grampa has a different set of ethics, but that doesn't mean we don't love >him or him us - but that her dad needs to spend time with his dad on a >level >that his dad feels comfortable. Another possible compromise is to ask your >hubby to suddenly become a very bad fisherman - unable to catch a fish to >save his life! haha. let his dad reel them in as he can, but ask if your >dh would be willing to sabotage his own efforts to save a few fish. > >DS just woke up from his nap, so I'll sign off now! >~Doh > > > _______________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Dear son & dear husband. Sandra > what does ds and dh stand for??? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 ds = dear son dd = dear daughter dh = dear husband , " jeannie de rouen " <bojean7@h...> wrote: > what does ds and dh stand for??? > > > >Doh! <dohdriver> > > > > > > Re: several subjects (something for everyone!) > >Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:30:06 -0500 > > > >Thanks to all who've sent messages, public and private, about the comments > >regarding marriage and morailty on the list. I'm glad to know I'm not the > >only one who found the comments problematic, and that it's not the common > >tone of the list. > > > >Re: As someone mentioned, carageenan comes from seaweed and is a good vegan > >source of a thickener. Guar gum, agar, and carageenan are common > >thickeners > >for soy beverages. There's another one, oh yeah, arrowroot. There's > >another, _____ gum, can't remember the name, that is also common and > >vegan.... > > > >Re: nursing and itchy scalps. I think someone mentioned EFAs. Also cradle > >cap (sebborheic dermatitis). And water. Another thing to consider is your > >thyroid. Very common to have a thyroid problem after having a baby. Other > >symptoms include thinning hair (both thinner, and falling out), appetite > >changes, weight changes, heart palpitations..... Many more symptoms, which > > " cycle " so when you think you're better, you're really just changing one > >symptom for another. Something to think about (I have an overactive > >thyroid). > >Trin, especially, I would suggest you consider EFAs or other nutrient > >supplements because the fact that your diet and products haven't changed > >could be exactly the problem! As with cradle caps with kids, soaking the > >scalp in a nice oil (such as almond or apricot) will be very soothing. > > > >Re: night nursing (Lindsay) > >I'm not sure how long you have left your ds with his dad or babysitter to > >try to get him to fall asleep for them, so maybe you already know that he > >won't " give in " for a long long time, in which case you might try again in > >a > >few months when he's older (18 months is a magic mile-marker for > >understanding this, for some reason).... But if by " consoling him " you > >mean > >that your dh or sitter have put up with, say, 20 minutes of crying before > >you come to the rescue, then that's not a very long time, and he's learned > >that 20 minutes is a short time to wail if it'll produce You. > > > >Let me say that I'm not suggesting any sort of crying it out. Rather, I > >think that the baby will learn quickly that he is safe, loved, and attended > >even though you're not there, and as long as the caregiver can tolerate the > >crying (no easy task!) then you might let them try again for awhile, > >without > >being able to turn ds over to you (go to a movie!). > > > >There's a very good chance that your baby depends on *you* for night > >nursing/ comfort, but if you're not there, your ds might soon be fine > >without you. You may all find that after one night or two when you're not > >there to nurse him, he'll fall asleep pretty quickly. > > > >I never thought I could leave my son but when I decided to take the chance > >and go out for the evening (he was even younger than yours, 9 months) I got > >home to find out that although he'd stayed up later and fussed (not cried) > >for awhile, he eventually just fell asleep on my aunt's shoulder. After > >that, he didn't even fuss. And it was *very* rare that I left him with > >someone else at night, maybe 4 times in his first 2.5 years, but he still > >did fine. > > > >When you're nursing (as I still am) it's important for the nursing > >relationship not to become a source of contention for either of you. if > >it's becoming a source of frustration annoyance for you, you might want to > >take steps to ease the burden. Babies can understand that mamas have > >needs, > >too. > > > >Re: fishing hubby > >This would drive me nuts. But as always it might help to try standing in > >his shoes for a minute and see what he gains from this. Perhaps he's > >really > >finding this time with his dad so important that he's willing to let the > >fish suffering slide. After all (perhaps in his reasoning) he's not > >hurting > >animals nearly to the extent of most folks. And perhaps they are creating > >or nurturing a bond that they need, in a space that feels comfortable to > >his > >dad. > >Beyond that, being unmarried and unwilling to compromise, I gently suggest > >a > >compromise! Perhaps you can ask him, first of all, to be the one who > >has to explain to your dd why he goes fishing (don't know how old she is or > >if/when this will be an issue). And then you can reinforce with her that > >grampa has a different set of ethics, but that doesn't mean we don't love > >him or him us - but that her dad needs to spend time with his dad on a > >level > >that his dad feels comfortable. Another possible compromise is to ask your > >hubby to suddenly become a very bad fisherman - unable to catch a fish to > >save his life! haha. let his dad reel them in as he can, but ask if your > >dh would be willing to sabotage his own efforts to save a few fish. > > > >DS just woke up from his nap, so I'll sign off now! > >~Doh > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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