Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 This is probably off-topic, but it came up on another parenting group and I thought I'd see what you all think... Do you feel sunscreen is safe? Have you heard any negative things about sunscreen ingredients? How do you protect your kids from sun exposure? Have you heard eating certain foods protects you from the sun? (I'm really interesting in hearing from any raw foodists on this one.) I buy vegan sunscreen, but I try not to use it unless I feel it is really necessary. When we go to the beach we usually buy special t-shirts, etc. that block the sun. If the last couple weeks are any indication, ds is going to be spending a lot of time out in the sun for the next 5 months. Last year we just avoided the 10am - 2pm sun as much as possible and we gardened early in the morning. This year he doesn't want to spend more than a few minutes a day inside...even takes naps in a tent some days. :-) Thanks, Linda Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 It is very VERY important that everyone wear sunscreen - ESPECIALLY children. Kids skin in more sensitive to the suns damaging rays than ours. We buy cruelty free sunscreen and load it up on our kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2) EVERY time we go out. Skin cancer is something we never want to experience. Peace, Lynne Linda Evans [veganlinda] Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:46 PM sunscreen This is probably off-topic, but it came up on another parenting group and I thought I'd see what you all think... Do you feel sunscreen is safe? Have you heard any negative things about sunscreen ingredients? How do you protect your kids from sun exposure? Have you heard eating certain foods protects you from the sun? (I'm really interesting in hearing from any raw foodists on this one.) I buy vegan sunscreen, but I try not to use it unless I feel it is really necessary. When we go to the beach we usually buy special t-shirts, etc. that block the sun. If the last couple weeks are any indication, ds is going to be spending a lot of time out in the sun for the next 5 months. Last year we just avoided the 10am - 2pm sun as much as possible and we gardened early in the morning. This year he doesn't want to spend more than a few minutes a day inside...even takes naps in a tent some days. :-) Thanks, Linda Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Everything I've read has led me to the conclusion that some sort of sun protection is definitely important, and not just for the 10-2 hours. Of course, I haven't done much to follow through on it. *sigh* I need to get my act together. What brand do you use? I thought Aubrey organic was REALLY expensive and smelled nasty. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 I don't really know Linda.....I just assumed it was safer than skin cancer LOL! We have a lot of moles in our family and I've even had about 20 removed they thought were or would be cancerous.....I'm anxious to find out though from the others cuz we have 3 very active boys who need to be protected from it Stacy >This is probably off-topic, but it came up on another >parenting group and I thought I'd see what you all >think... > >Do you feel sunscreen is safe? Have you heard any >negative things about sunscreen ingredients? How do >you protect your kids from sun exposure? Have you >heard eating certain foods protects you from the sun? >(I'm really interesting in hearing from any raw >foodists on this one.) > >I buy vegan sunscreen, but I try not to use it unless >I feel it is really necessary. When we go to the >beach we usually buy special t-shirts, etc. that block >the sun. If the last couple weeks are any indication, >ds is going to be spending a lot of time out in the >sun for the next 5 months. Last year we just avoided >the 10am - 2pm sun as much as possible and we gardened >early in the morning. This year he doesn't want to >spend more than a few minutes a day inside...even >takes naps in a tent some days. :-) > >Thanks, > >Linda > > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes./ > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Linda, just like anything, I've heard arguments go both ways. In my opinion, it sounds like you are already sun smart!I think if you know you'll be outside for a while and shade is hard to come by I'd personally rather use a sunscreen (do your homework, I found one online last year that was supposed to be very gentle, safe, and animal friendly)than let my son get a bad burn.Did you know one bad childhood burn increases your chance of skin cancer later in life by almost 50%???!!!I think the natural way first (shade, clothing)but sometimes a back up plan is a good thing to have! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 well here is my opinion based on nothing but, well, my opinion ( i guess from a myriad of nameless sources i've read or seen over the years!): the sun is damaging as hell and you're much better off having the protection afforded by sunscreen than you are harmed by any of its ingredients. it's a question of weighing which one you find more harmful. since the skin is a crucial element in many bodily processes (eliminating toxins is one, ironically in this case!) i think it is worth your while to protect it from the sun. slathering it on, heather At 09:45 PM 4/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: >This is probably off-topic, but it came up on another >parenting group and I thought I'd see what you all >think... > >Do you feel sunscreen is safe? Have you heard any >negative things about sunscreen ingredients? How do >you protect your kids from sun exposure? Have you >heard eating certain foods protects you from the sun? >(I'm really interesting in hearing from any raw >foodists on this one.) > >I buy vegan sunscreen, but I try not to use it unless >I feel it is really necessary. When we go to the >beach we usually buy special t-shirts, etc. that block >the sun. If the last couple weeks are any indication, >ds is going to be spending a lot of time out in the >sun for the next 5 months. Last year we just avoided >the 10am - 2pm sun as much as possible and we gardened >early in the morning. This year he doesn't want to >spend more than a few minutes a day inside...even >takes naps in a tent some days. :-) > >Thanks, > >Linda > > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ><http://taxes./>http://taxes./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 > > Do you feel sunscreen is safe? Have you heard any > negative things about sunscreen ingredients? How do > you protect your kids from sun exposure? Have you > heard eating certain foods protects you from the sun? I struggle with this every day here in Florida. I don't feel sunscreen is very safe, but I use Aubrey Organics Green Tea Sunscreen for Children on my son any time we'll be out for a length of time. I'm pretty fair skinned but his father is Mexican and they handle exposure better. I think the worst thing about sunscreen is that it gives a false sense of protection. We stay longer in the sun, exposed to all the radiation that the sunscreen *doesn't* block, when we're wearing it. I did a lot of reasearch on sunscreen last year - I've forgotten a lot of the details, but I recall that I read bad things about the 2 main ingredients, PABA and Padimate-O. The alternative is the mineral zinc oxide, which is the ingred. that makes the sunscreen white. I like this because you can actually see where you put it on, and where you've missed. I don't know about protecting you from sun in advance, but foods can certainly counter the ill-effects of too much sun. The anti-oxidant vitamins are probably the best bet, but I'm sure other foods can help, too. I can't recall what it is about Green Tea that makes it a good external sunblock - it's been used for years in China - but I don't know about taking it internally either before or after. Green tea does contain higher amounts (versus black or other teas) of a particular anti-oxidant class which is suggested as cancer-preventing. I do know that sunscreen should be applied ~20 minutes before going out in the sun, and reapplied every hour or after water time, regardless of the time frames on the label. I think this year (or next) the FDA eliminates the SPF ratings system, so that sunscreens can no longer use them and can only claim to offer mild, moderate, or ... something ... protection. And they can no longer call a product a sun*block*. HTH, Doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 The air works as a pretty good sunscreen if you remember this rule of thumb: You don't need sunscreen if your shadow is longer than you are tall. In other words, when the sun is lower than 45 degrees in the sky either because of your latitude, time of day or season of the year, you don't have to worry about sunscreen. Otherwise you do. -- Be kind. Be of good cheer. Dick Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 But what kind? Where do you get it, how much is it and most impoortant, what does it smell like? Sandra > We buy cruelty free sunscreen and load it up on our kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2) > EVERY time we go out. Skin cancer is something we never want to experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 This is definitely the conventional wisdom. After seeing someone close to me die from cancer and watching a young cousin (25) struggling with colon cancer...I think much more about cancer than I used to. I respect avoidance of skin cancer, but I wonder about the other cancers... The other list brought up a lot of research showing the chemicals in sunscreen baked into the skin could actually be cancer causing. Of course, research can be found to say just about anything...at the same time I could totally see chemicals having a negative affect on the skin especially if high temps are involved or radiation from the sun. Many people put deet to protect them from insect bites and use anti-perspirent with aluminum in it so it is not like I would assume all products out there are safe. Some of the people who were raw foodists (but a lot them eat raw meat as well! so it is disturbing and I'm not sure how much I would trust their nutritional advice) said carrots and foods high in beta carotene protect one from burning, etc. This is the first I'd ever heard about foods protecting someone from the sun so I was wondering what others had read, experienced, etc. While this is not something that I lose sleep over it is something I wonder about at this time of year. Thanks for the feedback, Linda --- Lynne Stornello <libby63 wrote: > It is very VERY important that everyone wear > sunscreen - ESPECIALLY > children. Kids skin in more sensitive to the suns > damaging rays than ours. > We buy cruelty free sunscreen and load it up on our > kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2) > EVERY time we go out. Skin cancer is something we > never want to experience. > > Peace, > Lynne Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 In a message dated 4/19/2002 5:30:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sandra.mort writes: > But what kind? Where do you get it, how much is it and most impoortant, > what does it smell like? > I don't about who you were asking, but we use Mustela brand sunscreen. They don't test on animals and the company claims that all of their products are edible and formulated for sensitive skin. I LOVE the sunscreen stick! It is the only sunscreen that I can put on my son's face that he can't rub into his eyes, it stays put. It doesn't have much of a smell to it, good or bad. It is somwhat expensive though, it is $9 for a stick, but a stick lasts awhile and it is well worth it in my opinion! Sara Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 I believe what we bought last year was Hawaiian Tropic and it smelled just fine. Sandra Mort [sandra.mort] Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:38 AM Re: sunscreen But what kind? Where do you get it, how much is it and most impoortant, what does it smell like? Sandra > We buy cruelty free sunscreen and load it up on our kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2) > EVERY time we go out. Skin cancer is something we never want to experience. For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Linda For what it is worth, I, too, have heard that beta-carotene foods provide sun protection. However I don't know where I read this. They didn't explain the whole process and I didn't follow it up because we simply try to limit our sun exposure at peak times and use the most natural sunscreen we can find as a last resort. I wonder how many carrots one would have to consume and how long the protection would last? Madeline >Linda Evans <veganlinda > > >RE: sunscreen >Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:50:03 -0700 (PDT) > >This is definitely the conventional wisdom. After >seeing someone close to me die from cancer and >watching a young cousin (25) struggling with colon >cancer...I think much more about cancer than I used >to. I respect avoidance of skin cancer, but I wonder >about the other cancers... > >The other list brought up a lot of research showing >the chemicals in sunscreen baked into the skin could >actually be cancer causing. Of course, research can >be found to say just about anything...at the same time >I could totally see chemicals having a negative affect >on the skin especially if high temps are involved or >radiation from the sun. Many people put deet to >protect them from insect bites and use anti-perspirent >with aluminum in it so it is not like I would assume >all products out there are safe. > >Some of the people who were raw foodists (but a lot >them eat raw meat as well! so it is disturbing and I'm >not sure how much I would trust their nutritional >advice) said carrots and foods high in beta carotene >protect one from burning, etc. This is the first I'd >ever heard about foods protecting someone from the sun >so I was wondering what others had read, experienced, >etc. > >While this is not something that I lose sleep over it >is something I wonder about at this time of year. >Thanks for the feedback, > >Linda >--- Lynne Stornello <libby63 wrote: > > It is very VERY important that everyone wear > > sunscreen - ESPECIALLY > > children. Kids skin in more sensitive to the suns > > damaging rays than ours. > > We buy cruelty free sunscreen and load it up on our > > kids (1 1/2 and 3 1/2) > > EVERY time we go out. Skin cancer is something we > > never want to experience. > > > > Peace, > > Lynne > > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes./ > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 where can you buy it? --- colinsapmama wrote: > In a message dated 4/19/2002 5:30:46 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > sandra.mort writes: > > > > But what kind? Where do you get it, how much > is it and most impoortant, > > what does it smell like? > > > > I don't about who you were asking, but we use > Mustela brand sunscreen. They > don't test on animals and the company claims > that all of their products are > edible and formulated for sensitive skin. I > LOVE the sunscreen stick! It is > the only sunscreen that I can put on my son's > face that he can't rub into his > eyes, it stays put. It doesn't have much of a > smell to it, good or bad. It > is somwhat expensive though, it is $9 for a > stick, but a stick lasts awhile > and it is well worth it in my opinion! > > Sara > > > Sara > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 In a message dated 4/22/2002 5:26:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sumigirl1999 writes: > where can you buy it? > I bought my first stick at The Right Start and the second at some baby boutique. Here is a link to their website, <A HREF= " http://www.mustelausa.com/ " >mustela</A> they have a store locator so you can go to a store near you to check them out or they have a link to order online. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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