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Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

 

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Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

Tue Apr 30, 7:50 AM ET

 

By STEPHANIE GASKELL, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - A couple who put their baby daughter on a strict vegetarian diet

were charged with child endangerment after authorities found the girl last year

weighing only half her normal weight, prosecutors said.

 

Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 31, were charged with reckless endangerment and

endangering the welfare of a child. Both pleaded innocent Friday.

 

Prosecutors said the baby was fed ground nuts, fresh-squeezed juices, herbal

tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil. She was not breast-fed or given

infant formulas.

 

Authorities were alerted to the situation by an anonymous call in November, said

Maris Campbell, a spokeswoman for the district attorney. She said the baby was

" in grave risk of death. "

 

" She weighed only 10 pounds, less than half the weight of an average

16-month-old female child, and appeared to be the size of a 2- to 3-month-old

baby, " District Attorney Richard Brown said Monday.

 

But Warren Silverman, a lawyer representing the mother, said the parents " felt

that they have their own lifestyle, they're vegetarians, and they felt that they

were providing proper care for their child. "

 

The child has been in foster care since November.

 

The girl is now 20 months old and doctors said she now weighs 20 pounds, still

about the normal weight of a 10- to 12-month old baby. Campbell said the girl

faces major developmental problems.

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/1/2002 5:46:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

MaynardClark writes:

 

 

> Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

>

 

It sounds to me like they were neglectful, the poor thing wasn't breastfed or

given formula, two things which would have prevented that from happening.

Poor thing!

 

Sara

 

 

 

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This kind of stuff makes us look bad. How ridiculous. No

breastfeeding? MORONS! My kids are have been vegetarian since birth

and are in the 50% in the weight category. They eat plenty and are

healthier than most kids. I wish we could reply to this article

somehow. UGH!!!!!!!!

 

 

Maynard S. Clark [MaynardClark]

Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:39 PM

VegEats-News (AT) Groups (DOT) com

Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

 

 

 

Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

 

http://story.news./news?tmpl=story

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Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

Tue Apr 30, 7:50 AM ET

 

By STEPHANIE GASKELL, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - A couple who put their baby daughter on a strict

vegetarian diet were charged with child endangerment after authorities

found the girl last year weighing only half her normal weight,

prosecutors said.

 

Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 31, were charged with reckless

endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child. Both pleaded

innocent Friday.

 

Prosecutors said the baby was fed ground nuts, fresh-squeezed juices,

herbal tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil. She was not

breast-fed or given infant formulas.

 

Authorities were alerted to the situation by an anonymous call in

November, said Maris Campbell, a spokeswoman for the district attorney.

She said the baby was " in grave risk of death. "

 

" She weighed only 10 pounds, less than half the weight of an average

16-month-old female child, and appeared to be the size of a 2- to

3-month-old baby, " District Attorney Richard Brown said Monday.

 

But Warren Silverman, a lawyer representing the mother, said the parents

" felt that they have their own lifestyle, they're vegetarians, and they

felt that they were providing proper care for their child. "

 

The child has been in foster care since November.

 

The girl is now 20 months old and doctors said she now weighs 20 pounds,

still about the normal weight of a 10- to 12-month old baby. Campbell

said the girl faces major developmental problems.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thats horrible! Its people like that who give vegetarians a bad

rap. It said she was not breastfeed or given formula - does that

mean never or just at the time they were arrested?

 

 

, " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:

>

> Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

>

> http://story.news./news?

tmpl=story & u=/ap/20020430/ap_on_re_us/vegetarian_abuse_1

>

> Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

> Tue Apr 30, 7:50 AM ET

>

> By STEPHANIE GASKELL, Associated Press Writer

> NEW YORK (AP) - A couple who put their baby daughter on a strict

vegetarian diet were charged with child endangerment after

authorities found the girl last year weighing only half her normal

weight, prosecutors said.

>

> Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 31, were charged with reckless

endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child. Both pleaded

innocent Friday.

>

> Prosecutors said the baby was fed ground nuts, fresh-squeezed

juices, herbal tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil. She was

not breast-fed or given infant formulas.

>

> Authorities were alerted to the situation by an anonymous call in

November, said Maris Campbell, a spokeswoman for the district

attorney. She said the baby was " in grave risk of death. "

>

> " She weighed only 10 pounds, less than half the weight of an

average 16-month-old female child, and appeared to be the size of a 2-

to 3-month-old baby, " District Attorney Richard Brown said Monday.

>

> But Warren Silverman, a lawyer representing the mother, said the

parents " felt that they have their own lifestyle, they're

vegetarians, and they felt that they were providing proper care for

their child. "

>

> The child has been in foster care since November.

>

> The girl is now 20 months old and doctors said she now weighs 20

pounds, still about the normal weight of a 10- to 12-month old baby.

Campbell said the girl faces major developmental problems.

>

>

>

>

>

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Just because we're Vegetarians doesn't mean we don't have common sense.

This child never had breast milk or soy milk, but just ground nuts

etc!!! They have lost their mind!!! My daughter had soy milk until she

developed an allergy to that and then I put her on to Vitamite. She was

eatting cereal since age 3 months, a little ahead of what they said was

when you feed them, but I would NEVER, EVER have thought not to feed her

either soy or breast milk. And our children (Vegetarian) are very

healthy if they are fed right, not so underweight that she was the size

of a two or three month old chid. They are crazy!!! They should have

taken her! There was no excuse for that! They have taken it too far, way

too far and could have lost their child's life!

 

Her body was not able to handle groud nuts etc. as a newborn until age 3

or 4 months old. Its not us Vegetarians that is the problem, it's people

like them that give us a bad name. My daughter is 5, though she wasn't

raised vegetarian her entire, she has not lost any weight being veggie,

as a matter of fact she's healthier and has gained weight. She is

healthier than her friends who eat nothing but junk. She is 4 ft tall,

and 58 lb's. She's very active and has no health problems. That just

makes me angry and sick. No breast milk, no soy milk? I'm glas they took

that poor child away!!!

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How is Cod Liver Oil rated as " vegetarian " food? It's too bad the

" Vegetarian " label on the article seems to indict vegetarians as being

abusive to their children instead of placing the focus on these

misinformed/miseducated? or just plain abusive parents.

 

It's so sad to hear such an awful story.

 

 

 

>

> Maynard S. Clark [MaynardClark]

> Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:39 PM

> VegEats-News (AT) Groups (DOT) com

> Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

>

>

>

> Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

>

> http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/ap/20020430/ap_on_r

> e_us/vegetarian_abuse_1

>

> Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

> Tue Apr 30, 7:50 AM ET

>

> By STEPHANIE GASKELL, Associated Press Writer

> NEW YORK (AP) - A couple who put their baby daughter on a strict

> vegetarian diet were charged with child endangerment after

> authorities found the girl last year weighing only half her

> normal weight, prosecutors said.

>

> Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 31, were charged with reckless

> endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child. Both pleaded

> innocent Friday.

>

> Prosecutors said the baby was fed ground nuts, fresh-squeezed

> juices, herbal tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil. She

> was not breast-fed or given infant formulas.

>

> Authorities were alerted to the situation by an anonymous call in

> November, said Maris Campbell, a spokeswoman for the district

> attorney. She said the baby was " in grave risk of death. "

>

> " She weighed only 10 pounds, less than half the weight of an

> average 16-month-old female child, and appeared to be the size of

> a 2- to 3-month-old baby, " District Attorney Richard Brown said Monday.

>

> But Warren Silverman, a lawyer representing the mother, said the

> parents " felt that they have their own lifestyle, they're

> vegetarians, and they felt that they were providing proper care

> for their child. "

>

> The child has been in foster care since November.

>

> The girl is now 20 months old and doctors said she now weighs 20

> pounds, still about the normal weight of a 10- to 12-month old

> baby. Campbell said the girl faces major developmental problems.

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

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I'm speechless. While this story is upsetting, I'm nearly as upset by

Maynard's reaction. Feeding an infant on the foods listed is not part of

being vegetarian. Unless being starved counts as failure to thrive, this is

in NO way a " classical failure to thrive situation " . If people don't want

to breastfeed then giving formula or a nutritionally adequate homemade

formula will have to do, but what they listed was in no way adequate for

infant development.

 

Sandra, boiling

 

> Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

>

>

http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/ap/20020430/ap_on_re_us/veget

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I wasn't going to comment on this one because it is a

sad situation no matter how you look at it and I don't

know these people personally so I don't want to judge.

Then I saw all the emails judging these people so I

guess I feel the need to vent.

 

I know personally that everything printed or said in

the news is not necessarily fact. People are

misquoted and misrepresented all the time. I feel for

the parents and the child in this case. It does sound

neglectful if the child was not breastfed or given

formula (soy milk or cow's milk would not due

obviously). But, it also scares me when children are

taken away from their parents when the parents are

doing anything different from society. A woman

locally lost her child last year for 'forcing' her 4

or 5 year old to nurse. I do know more details about

this case than the media reported on and luckily the

child and mother are together again.

 

The thing that bothers me most about this article is

the fact they mention vegetarianism at all. If these

people were meat-eaters would they say 'meat-eaters'

feed baby nothing but french fries and McNuggets until

she was taken away put in a veg home to eat tofu and

spinach? I know several parents who say their kids

will literally not eat anything that isn't fried and

in particular french fries and chicken nuggets. These

kids are not underweight and don't make the news. Of

course, my mother fed us all sorts of stuff when I was

younger that I would not think of as food now (not

just because I'm vegan). I know she was trying to do

the best for us and always thought she was raising

healthy children (which we all ended up fine).

 

Of course, there are always extremes and this case

sounds extreme. I just hope that we can all be

compassionate to these parents as well as the child as

well as the people in the media.

 

Linda

 

 

 

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This absolutely breaks my heart and makes me so angry -- even more so

as the mother of a 9-month old baby girl (who was breastfed

exclusively for the first 6 months of her life and then, in addition

to breast milk, has been on an otherwise vegan diet and currently

weighs 20 lbs and is 28.5 inches!And I hardly overfeed her, she is

just healthy.)

It is just inconceivable to me the level of ignorance involved. At 31

years old, you'd think this couple would have the wherewithall to be a

little more responsible. Even if they truly believed they were

providing their daughter with a healthful diet, couldn't they see that

she was not thriving? If you are going to make a choice -- especially

from infancy -- to raise a child on a restrictive diet, isn't it plain

old common sense to make sure that you are giving them adequate

nutrition to support proper growth and development? Did they ever

bring their daughter to a pediatrician and, if so, did the

pediatrician express to them the importance of nutrition or was he/she

completely negligent by choosing not to get involved? And what about

the family and friends of this couple? Why did it take 16 months

before someone intervened? I can only hope these parents (HA! They are

clearly anything but!)are made to understand the severe damage and

abuse they inflicted upon their daughter, that they never give birth

again or ever get their daughter released into their custody, and

that, G-d willing, their daughter continues to thrive in her current

environment and the growth and developmental damage she has sustained

stands a chance of being ameliorated.

It is because of people like this couple that, as a nutritionist and

vegetarian, I wish to reach out to those raising vegetarian or vegan

children. There is a great deal of research out there to support the

fact that, if provided with adequate and appropriate nutrition, vegan

and vegetarian children can experience healthy growth and development.

In fact, it is likely they will experience better overall health than

their omnivorous counterparts.

 

 

 

, " Maynard S. Clark " <MaynardClark@Y...> wrote:

>

> Looks like a classical " failure to thrive " situation...

>

>

http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/ap/20020430/ap_on_re_us

/vegetarian_abuse_1

>

> Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

> Tue Apr 30, 7:50 AM ET

>

> By STEPHANIE GASKELL, Associated Press Writer

> NEW YORK (AP) - A couple who put their baby daughter on a strict

vegetarian diet were charged with child endangerment after authorities

found the girl last year weighing only half her normal weight,

prosecutors said.

>

> Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 31, were charged with reckless

endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child. Both pleaded

innocent Friday.

>

> Prosecutors said the baby was fed ground nuts, fresh-squeezed

juices, herbal tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil. She was

not breast-fed or given infant formulas.

>

> Authorities were alerted to the situation by an anonymous call in

November, said Maris Campbell, a spokeswoman for the district

attorney. She said the baby was " in grave risk of death. "

>

> " She weighed only 10 pounds, less than half the weight of an average

16-month-old female child, and appeared to be the size of a 2- to

3-month-old baby, " District Attorney Richard Brown said Monday.

>

> But Warren Silverman, a lawyer representing the mother, said the

parents " felt that they have their own lifestyle, they're vegetarians,

and they felt that they were providing proper care for their child. "

>

> The child has been in foster care since November.

>

> The girl is now 20 months old and doctors said she now weighs 20

pounds, still about the normal weight of a 10- to 12-month old baby.

Campbell said the girl faces major developmental problems.

>

>

>

>

>

> Health - your guide to health and wellness

>

>

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I sort of thought it'd be interesting to somehow do a press release of some

sort with a picture of kids raised vegan from birth. here in Rochester,

there's probably close to a dozen of us with kids who were vegan from birth,

and they all look great. I think it would be nice for people to have an

actual visual proof of what real vegan kids look like. I'm not sure how to

go about doing this, but I'm just throwing it out there.

 

Leena

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A voice of reason lights up the night...

 

You are so correct. I admit (as evidence from a post I made on this)

that I judged them very quickly based on that article. But it is so

true that often the real facts of the situation are not represented

in the news. If it was truthful reporting then I have to say that my

judgment stands, however it is VERY POSSIBLE that not all of the

facts were presented in which case I feel for the family.

 

 

, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote:

> I know personally that everything printed or said in

> the news is not necessarily fact. People are

> misquoted and misrepresented all the time. I feel for

> the parents and the child in this case. It does sound

> neglectful if the child was not breastfed or given

> formula (soy milk or cow's milk would not due

> obviously). But, it also scares me when children are

> taken away from their parents when the parents are

> doing anything different from society

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I think that's a great idea!

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<leena

 

Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:14 PM

RE: Vegetarians Face Child Abuse Charge

 

 

> I sort of thought it'd be interesting to somehow do a press release of

some

> sort with a picture of kids raised vegan from birth. here in Rochester,

> there's probably close to a dozen of us with kids who were vegan from

birth,

> and they all look great. I think it would be nice for people to have an

> actual visual proof of what real vegan kids look like. I'm not sure how to

> go about doing this, but I'm just throwing it out there.

>

> Leena

>

>

>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

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