Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 I'm resending this about carrageenan since it's come back up. ~Doh Some bits about carrageenan... I retract my earlier assertion that it's perfectly safe.... (Hope the links work. Taken from a post on Vegan Message Boards, www.veganboard.com ) ~Doh The definition of carrageenan sounds innocent enoughŠ car·ra·geen·an also car·ra·geen·in (k r -g n n) n. Any of a group of closely related colloids derived from Irish moss and several other red algae, widely used as a thickening, stabilizing, emulsifying, or suspending agent in industrial, pharmaceutical, and food products. carrageenan n : a colloidal extract from carrageen seaweed and other red algae Carrageenan is used commercially as an emulsifier and thickener in foods and is also used to induce an inflammatory lesion when injected into experimental animals (probably activates complement). ------ These are some articles regarding carrageenan. Carrageenan may cause stomach lesions, cancer Carrageenan May Cause Lesions In GI Tract, Or Cancer CARRAGEENAN AND FURCELLARAN Red Marine Algae Abstracts Carrageenan may cause stomach lesions, cancer By Environmental News Network IS CARRAGEENAN REALLY NATURAL? Carrageenan is extracted from red seaweed by using powerful alkali solvents. These solvents would remove the tissues and skin from your hands as readily as would any acid. Carrageenan is about as wholesome as monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is extracted from rice, and can equally be considered natural. Aspartame (NutraPoison) is also natural, as it is extracted from decayed plant matter that has been underground for millions of years (oil). So too are many other substances such as carrageenan that can also be classified by FDA and USDA as wholesome and natural food additives. Just because something comes from a natural source does not mean that it is safe. The small black dots in the eyes of potatoes contain substances that are instantly fatal if eaten. Got cyanide? You will if you eat the black dots on the " eyes " of potatoes. Carrageenan is a gel. It coats the insides of your stomach, like gooey honey or massage oil. Digestive problems often ensue. Quite often, soy eaters or soymilk drinkers react negatively to carrageenen, and blame their discomforting stomachaches on the soy. High weight molecular carrageenans are considered to be safe, and were given GRAS status (safe for human consumption) by the FDA. Low weight carrageenans are considered to be dangerous. Even SILK admits this. Dr. Tobacman shared studies with me that demonstrate that digestive enzymes and bacterial action convert high weight carrageenans to dangerous low molecular weight carrageenans and poligeenans in the human gut. These carrageenans have been linked to various human cancers and digestive disorders. Again, I remind you that Tobacman's evidence and conclusions are based upon human tissue samples, not animal studies. I will cite additional information from four studies: 1) Filament Disassembly and Loss of Mammary Myoepithelia Cells after Exposure to Carrageenan, Joanne Tobacman, Cancer Research, 57, 2823-2826, July 15, 1997 2) Carrageenan-Induced Inclusions in Mammary Mycoepithelial Cells, Joanne Tobacman, MD, and Katherine Walters, BS, Cancer Detection and Prevention, 25(6): 520-526 (2001) 3) Consumption of Carrageenan and Other Water-soluble Polymers Used as Food Additives and Incidence of Mammary Carcinoma, J. K. Tobacman, R. B. Wallace, M. B. Zimmerman, Medical Hypothesis (2001), 56(5), 589-598 4) Structural Studies on Carrageenan Derived Oligisaccharides, Guangli Yu, Huashi Guan, Alexandra Ioanviciu, Sulthan Sikkander, Charuwan Thanawiroon, Joanne Tobacman, Toshihiko Toida, Robert Linhardt, Carbohydrate Research, 337 (2002), 433-440 In her 1997 publication (1), Tobacman studied the effect of carrageenan on the growth of cultured human mammary epithelial cells over a two week period. She found that extremely low doses of carrageenan disrupted the internal cellular architecture of healthy breast tissue, leading her to conclude: " The widely used food additive, carrageenan has marked effects on the growth and characteristics of human mammary myoepithelial cells in tissue cultures at concentrations much less than those frequently used in food products to improve solubility. " Tobacman continued her work by exposing low concentrations of carrageenan for short intervals to human breast tissue (2), and observed pathological alterations in cellular membranes and intracellular tissues. Tobacman wrote: " These changes included prominence of membrane-associated vesicles that coalesced to form unusual petal-like arrays...and development of stacked rigid-appearing inclusions in the lysosomes that arose from the membranes of the petal-like arrays and from smaller, dense spherical bodies that formed clumps. " In reporting a historical perspective, Tobacman revealed that carrageenan has been found to destroy other human cells in tissue cultures, including epithelial intestinal cells and prostate cells. She concludes: " The association between exposure to low concentrations of carrageenan in tissue culture and destruction of mammary myoepithelial cells may be relevant to the occurrences of invasive mammary malignancy in vivo and provides another approach to investigation of mammary carcinoma. " Tobacman's third paper (3) explored the increased incidence of mammary carcinoma to the increased consumption of stabilizers and additives such as guar gum, pectin, xanthan, and carrageenan. While no relationship between the either above named additives and cancer was observed, carrageenan showed a strong positive. Although high molecular weight carrageenans are considered to be safe, Tobacman demonstrates that low molecular weight carrageenans are carcinogenic. She writes: " Acid hydrolysis (digestion) leads to shortening of the carrageenan polymer to the degraded form, poligeenan. It is not unreasonable to speculate that normal gastric acid...may act upon ingested carrageenan and convert some of which is ingested to the lower molecular weight poligeenan during the actual process of digestion. Also, some intestinal bacteria possess the enzyme carrageenase that degrades carrageenan. " Tobacman's 2002 publication (4) proves her earlier hypothesis. She writes: " Mild-acid hydrolytic depolymerization of carrageenan affords poligeenan, a mixture of lower molecular weight polysaccharides and oligosaccharide products. " Tobacman is currently preparing and characterizing low molecular weight poligeenans (carcinogenic) that have been extracted from human digestion modalities. Her yet-to-be published data suggest that carrageenans are dangerous for human consumption. My advice: Read labels. If there is carrageenan in a product, select an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 , Doh! <dohdriver> wrote: > I'm resending this about carrageenan since it's come back up. > ~Doh > > Some bits about carrageenan... I retract my earlier assertion that it's > perfectly safe.... (Hope the links work. Taken from a post on Vegan > Message Boards, www.veganboard.com ) > ~Doh Thanks for posting, Doh! I agree entirely that just because something is natural (like arsenic!) doesn't mean it is safe or healthy. However, I'm a little troubled that all of this research appears to have been published in pretty obscure journals. Why hasn't it appeared in Science or Nature? Proving that such a commonly used food additive is carcinogenic should be front-page news ... why isn't it? Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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