Guest guest Posted September 23, 2002 Report Share Posted September 23, 2002 > don't know how many of you actually read Vegetarian Times but they have begun to make it > abundantly clear that their magazine is not really geared towards vegans and vegetarians, it's for > people who wantt o eat a healthier diet and have a healthier life style. If they just had some fictional stories, it could be the contemporary equivalent of " Good Housekeeping " then! My favorite was The Animals Voice Magazine, which is no longer in print production... Perhaps that is also because that's what I was reading when I first learned about the atrocities of factory farming and decided to be vegan.... TAVM is now online - http://www.animalsvoice.com/ Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Yes, they are turning into a meatless " Real Simple. " Oh well--better for a wider audience to start eating less meat (and hopefully eventually none) than to preach to the converted and keep the message contained. But not so interesting or supportive for the rest of us... Claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Actually, I take it back--I read the October VT last night and it has a couple of things in it that stunned me. One is Nell Newman (Paul's daughter) talking about a " sustainable " farm in Texas: " There's a sustainable system at work: corn to feed the cattle and manure to grow soybeans. " Huh? The other is an article on a doctor named Pamela Peeke and her anti- aging program. " Peeke says most of her meals are vegetarian, yet she chooses to get protein in her diet by eating fish four or times a week. " And later, in a section on omega-3s and omega-6s, " Most health care professionals agree the best sources for these are fish and--if you avoid animal products--flaxseed. " IF? Isn't this a vegetarian magazine? I guess meat-eaters are now the unmarked form in VT. They've also eliminated the icons that indicate whether recipes are vegan/lacto/ovo etc. Perhaps it's time they changed their name to " Semivegetarian Times " to address their new audience--people who eat meat but consider themselves vegetarians. I decided a while ago to let my subscription lapse, and it the October issue has confirmed that choice. Claudia , " Claudia Bauer " <iclaudia@m...> wrote: > Yes, they are turning into a meatless " Real Simple. " Oh well-- better > for a wider audience to start eating less meat (and hopefully > eventually none) than to preach to the converted and keep the message > contained. But not so interesting or supportive for the rest of us... > > Claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " Vegetarian Times? I used to read it cover to cover; now, barely any of it interests me. Some of the articles have nothing to do with vegetarianism. In a recent issue, there was even an article about the importance of protein combining!!! I used to get a lot of recipes from VT, but none have interested me lately. {sigh} I want the old VT back! Sheri Mommy to Heather Joy 9/28/00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Sheri Slattery wrote: > Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " Vegetarian Times? I > used to read it cover to cover; now, barely any of it interests me. > Some of the articles have nothing to do with vegetarianism. In a recent > issue, there was even an article about the importance of protein > combining!!! I used to get a lot of recipes from VT, but none have > interested me lately. {sigh} I want the old VT back! Yeah, I've felt this way for several years. Every change they make to " improve " the magazine just alienates me more. When I first became a vegetarian, VT was a godsend. Now, though, they seem to be embarrassed by their vegetarian readers (and especially the vegans) and market the magazine mostly towards omnivores who just want to dabble with vegetarian recipes here and there. I still like the recipes, mostly, so I keep subscribing, but lately they haven't been as compelling as they used to be. Or maybe it's just that I'm not as enthused about the magazine in general and that carries over to the recipes. I also get Veg Life and Vegetarian Journal, but neither one can quite replace what Vegetarian Times used to be. Veg Life only comes out 4 times a year and I've noticed some consistency issues in the quality of the magazine, and Vegetarian Journal's recipes aren't as polished and sophisticatd as what I'm really looking for. ---- Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia President, The Arlington Cooperative Organization The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 I used to enjoy it a lot, too. We cancelled our subscription a few months ago because it wasn't interesting to us anymore. My husband didn't like the recent recipes, either. Trin > Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " Vegetarian Times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 I am also disappointed...I canceled my subscription, but now I get a free subscription because I belong to EarthSave. I've been really upset with the vegan bashing in the letters to the editor and it feels like VT is almost encouraging this. I read Veggie Life now instead and I really like Vegetarian Baby and Child. Maybe we need to write letters to VT. Linda --- Sheri Slattery <sheri wrote: > Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " > Vegetarian Times? I > used to read it cover to cover; now, barely any of > it interests me. > Some of the articles have nothing to do with > vegetarianism. In a recent > issue, there was even an article about the > importance of protein > combining!!! I used to get a lot of recipes from > VT, but none have > interested me lately. {sigh} I want the old VT > back! > > Sheri > Mommy to Heather Joy 9/28/00 > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 I'm glad others have noticed that the publication has really gone downhill lately. I thought I was the only one. I've found the entire magazine to be really amateurish. Anyone who has read VT for any length of time would notice that many of the articles they've published with the new staff have been done before and better by previous staffs. It's unfortunate. When I first became vegetarian more than a decade ago, it really helped me and gave me lots of ideas. Now it reads like a vegetarian magazine that is edited by meat eaters. A few months ago, the new editor justified the magazine's new direction by citing a recent survey, which determined that vegans were only a very small percentage of their readers and that most of the people who bought the magazine weren't vegetarian at all, but were just looking for a source for vegetarian recipes. Well, I have one bit of advice for them: the world only needs one Cooking Light. For magazines to survive, they must stick to their niche. That doesn't necessarily mean that all of a publication's readers will agree with or practice 100 percent of what it preaches, but it must have a clear direction, and in the past that has been vegetarianism--not semi-vegetarianism, not healthy cooking. Julie - " Linda Evans " <veganlinda Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:34 PM Re: Vegetarian Times > I am also disappointed...I canceled my subscription, > but now I get a free subscription because I belong to > EarthSave. I've been really upset with the vegan > bashing in the letters to the editor and it feels like > VT is almost encouraging this. I read Veggie Life now > instead and I really like Vegetarian Baby and Child. > Maybe we need to write letters to VT. > > Linda > --- Sheri Slattery <sheri wrote: > > Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " > > Vegetarian Times? I > > used to read it cover to cover; now, barely any of > > it interests me. > > Some of the articles have nothing to do with > > vegetarianism. In a recent > > issue, there was even an article about the > > importance of protein > > combining!!! I used to get a lot of recipes from > > VT, but none have > > interested me lately. {sigh} I want the old VT > > back! > > > > Sheri > > Mommy to Heather Joy 9/28/00 > > > > > > > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith. > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 I think it might be time to get Earthsave to cut its ties with VT. , Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: > I am also disappointed...I canceled my subscription, > but now I get a free subscription because I belong to > EarthSave. I've been really upset with the vegan > bashing in the letters to the editor and it feels like > VT is almost encouraging this. I read Veggie Life now > instead and I really like Vegetarian Baby and Child. > Maybe we need to write letters to VT. > > Linda > --- Sheri Slattery <sheri@s...> wrote: > > Is anyone else really disappointed with the " new " > > Vegetarian Times? I > > used to read it cover to cover; now, barely any of > > it interests me. > > Some of the articles have nothing to do with > > vegetarianism. In a recent > > issue, there was even an article about the > > importance of protein > > combining!!! I used to get a lot of recipes from > > VT, but none have > > interested me lately. {sigh} I want the old VT > > back! > > > > Sheri > > Mommy to Heather Joy 9/28/00 > > > > > > > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 , " Julie & Chris Boehning " <jcboehning@r...> wrote: > Well, I have one bit of advice for them: the world only needs one Cooking > Light. For magazines to survive, they must stick to their niche. That > doesn't necessarily mean that all of a publication's readers will agree with > or practice 100 percent of what it preaches, but it must have a clear > direction, and in the past that has been vegetarianism--not > semi-vegetarianism, not healthy cooking. Nicely worded - you should tell this to VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Julie, That was really well-written and well-expressed. I'm just going to let my current subscription lapse and then not renew. I also have been really angry at the way they seem to be " embarrassed " by their vegan readers, as someone else put it, and I was really upset by their highly inaccurate protein combining article. You're right - they had a great niche that veg journal and veg life weren't filling and they threw it away by being another cooking light. I think that all of us who wrote in to this email list should write letters to the editor, so that they are aware why we no longer , and not just think that it's caused by the economy or something. Leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Leena, Ditto for most of your comments. I became veggie in 1981. Back then the VT mag was the only supportive publication around. For 10+ years I found it very useful. I stopped renewing. Today it seems to recycle way too much content, and well... they aren't as supportive for me as they once were. Dave leena [leena] Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:53 PM RE: Vegetarian Times Julie, That was really well-written and well-expressed. I'm just going to let my current subscription lapse and then not renew. I also have been really angry at the way they seem to be " embarrassed " by their vegan readers, as someone else put it, and I was really upset by their highly inaccurate protein combining article. You're right - they had a great niche that veg journal and veg life weren't filling and they threw it away by being another cooking light. I think that all of us who wrote in to this email list should write letters to the editor, so that they are aware why we no longer , and not just think that it's caused by the economy or something. Leena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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