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Irene,

 

I tend to agree with what you have said. I've read abt not drinking cow's

milk too, and when I drank it while bf'ing Val, she had a reaction- blood in

her stools. I did an online search and it turned out that it irritates her

intestines and causes blood in the stools. I stopped drinking milk, and the

problem ceased. I also find I have less mucus after stopping milk.

For the same reason of not looking for substitutes, I never like to go for

all those " fake meat " stuff. Never understand the veggie sausage thing

either. Whole foods is much better, and more economical than taking smth and

adding all kinds of stuff to it and making it look like or taste like some

sort of meat.

 

Do you buy oat milk, or do you make it yourself? I only managed to find one

recipe on-line and tried it, but it requires cold water and has to be drank

cold, which is smth I don't like. I am Chinese, and refrain from cold foods

in general. If you have ideas, I wld love to hear them!

 

Cheers,

Janis

dd Valerie 16mths

 

 

>

>Message: 11

> Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:48:31 +0300

> " Irene Maradei " <shantima

>Re: Getting kids to drink soymilk

>

>Hi there!

>

>I'm lacto-ovo, not vegan, but I do avoid dairy as much as I can.

>My doctor told me that children after a certain age (say, 24 months,

>maximum

>3-4 years of age) don't need to drink ANY kind of millk. So it's just a

>question of them not feeling special, and a question of doing our loved

>recipes, otherwise why make them drink even soymilk? My son has a small

>problem with cow's milk anyway (if he drinks more than a cup it gives him

>tummy ache), so I don't give it to him and he usually doesn't complain.

>

>I use soymilk or rice milk or oatmilk (wonderfully sweet even without any

>sweeteners) for cooking, breakfast cereals, bechamel cream etc... As for

>drinking, as they don't taste so great, I only use them with carob powder

>in

>it and plan to give them biscuits to dip in it. Then it's okay.

>

>I try not to overdo it with soy dairy replacements anyway, as I heard they

>are bad for health (I have lots in my files about that, I've made a

>thorough

>study because it was important to me. If anybody is interested I can send

>the info offlist). Soy in bean form is good, soy sauce is good, but soy

>milk

>and tofu should be used in moderation, so it's good there is rice milk and

>oat milk for variety.

>As for TVP,it is a highly processed thing which makes me highly suspicious

>as far as healthy eating is concerned. (I know, not all vegetarians are

>concerned about healthy eating, but many are). It can come in handy when

>cooking for non-vegetarians, and if one insists on some traditional

>recipes.

>I use it too, maybe once in six months, that's all.

>In my opinion, we should re-think the idea of using replacements and

>substitutes all the time. It's like getting a message that these things

>which we choose not to use are really indispensable, and if we don't use

>them, we should use something looking or tasting like them to put in their

>place (replacements that taste like meat make me sick!). Why not re-think

>our menus and habits instead, finding alternative foods?

>

>Irene

>Mother of Tancredi, 9, and Lavinia, 5

>

>

>Towards_health_and_beauty/ Friendly support

>and guidance to everyone struggling with weight and wellness problems.

>

>

Janis Tan MK

 

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Ah well, just to buy into this argument for a moment, I find that

'political' describes anything that people don't agree with and can't be

bothered to or haven't the knowledge to refute.

 

As for your question, Gene, how can any speech or action (or silence or

inaction) *not* be political?? Sigggghhhhh. Ya know?

 

Best,

Pat

>

> since when is expressing one's opinion about ANYthing necessarily

> political?

>

> You characterize it this way to try to make the case for it being

> off-topic, when in fact it is so directly ON topic as to be

> inescapable.

>

>

> On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 08:30 AM,

> wrote:

>

> > don't know how this group turned so political

> " Smile first thing in the morning: Get it over with. "

> --W. C. Fields

>

 

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