Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 It is in my understanding that within the practice of yoga nigra (sleep consciousness) that one can redirect energies to different centres that works toward a homogenous awakekening. This is also know as the diamond state. The state between sleep and wakefulness, it is the state where many psychic phenomena happens. such as the well , the storehouse of energy at the top of the head will cause the bell to ring. the vibration difference of the astral and the physical can also be felt. Within this state of mind consciousness, the mind is susceptible to suggestion, there fore the best time to service a sankalpa or resolve, In this practice one test to the task of being the observer neither trying to attract or dispel thoughts, A state of Viagra ( detachment) is there fore achieved. Fear and /or guilt is overcome and the gates of harmony appear. All the best John Mathieson http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/psychology2/psyc2215.html To Netnews Homepage Previous Next Index Table of Contents Esoteric Psychology II - Chapter II - The Ray of Personality - Problems of Disciples and Mystics 1. Stimulation produces the awakening of the lower psychic powers if the incoming energy is directed to the solar plexus or to the throat center. It produces the intense activities of the centers and this can, in the early stages, [535] cause definite psychic trouble. In illustration of this I would like to indicate the general nature of the difficulties to which the mystic can be physically prone: 1.. The awakening of the head center can produce serious trouble if brought about prematurely and even lead at times to insanity. Inflammation of certain areas of the brain and certain forms of brain tumors can be induced by a too rapid inflow of the highest form of energy which a man can receive prior to initiation. This takes place, however, only in those cases where the man is a highly developed person and of a mental type. In other cases of premature soul inflow, the energy pours through the opening at the top of the head and finds its way to some one or other of the centers, according to the ray type or stage of unfoldment. Where the greatest attention of the man's consciousness and life force is focused (even if unconsciously) to that point the incoming energy will almost automatically flow. 2.. The awakening of the ajna center which is, as we have seen, primarily the result of the development of a man's personality to the point of integration, can (if the energies involved are not correctly controlled) lead to serious eye trouble, to many aural difficulties, to various forms of neuritis, headache, migraine, and nerve difficulties in various parts of the body. It can produce also many difficulties connected with the pituitary body and psychological trouble emanating from this important controlling gland as well as definite physical trouble. 3.. The awakening of the heart center (which is going on very rapidly at this time) is responsible for many [536] forms of heart trouble and for the various difficulties connected with the autonomic nervous system, particularly in relation to the vagus nerve. The prevalence of various forms of heart disease at this time, particularly among the intelligentsia, professional and financial classes, is due to the awakening of this center and to the discovery of an unrecognized capacity in humanity to become group conscious, and to undertake group service. The thymus gland, which controls in a peculiar manner the life aspect in man, is closely connected with the heart center, as might be expected. This gland must eventually become more active in the adult than is now the case, just as the pineal gland in the coming human races will no longer be an atrophied organism with its true functions not understood and comprehended, but it will be an active and important part of man's equipment. This will take place normally and naturally as man learns to function as a soul and not just as a personality. 4.. Again, much trouble among people is due at this time to the awakening of the throat center. This center governs and conditions the thyroid gland and the para-thyroids. It can produce, when unduly developed or prematurely awakened, hyperthyroidism with its attendant difficulties and its often dangerous effects upon the heart and upon the metabolism of the body. The psychological effects are well-known and recognized. These difficulties are increased and this higher creative center unduly stimulated and rendered a danger instead of an aid to expression by the enforced celibacy of many people, owing to the present unfortunate economic conditions. These conditions are such that people refrain from marriage and there is consequently [537] the lack of opportunity to use (or to misuse) the energy flowing through the sacral center. Mystics are likewise prone to this difficulty. The throat center is not used creatively nor is the sacral center turned to its proper uses. The sacral energy is carried prematurely to the throat where it produces an intense stimulation. The equipment of the man concerned has not yet reached the point where it can be turned to creative work in any field. There is no creative expression of any kind as the development of the man does not permit him to be creative in the higher sense. The Swiss people, though highly intelligent, are not creative in this sense. The energy flowing through the thyroid gland is not used in creative art, music or writing in any outstanding manner, and hence the prevalence of goiter and thyroid difficulty. There is much energy flowing through and to the thyroid gland and, as yet, but little use made of it. 5.. The increased activity and stimulation of the solar plexus center today is a most fruitful source of trouble. It produces a great deal of the nervous difficulties to which women are particularly prone, and many of the stomach ills and liver troubles of the time, as well as intestinal difficulties. One of the most powerful sources of cancer in various parts of the body (except in the head and face) can esoterically be traced to the congestion of the energy of the solar plexus center. This congestion has a general and widespread effect. Difficulties arising from the awakening of the heart center and the solar plexus center (for the two are closely allied and have a reciprocal action for a long time in the mystical experience) produce also a powerful effect upon the blood stream. They are connected with [538] the life principle which is ever " carried upon the waves of desire " (as the ancient writings put it) and this, when prevented from full expression, through lack of development or other causes, leads to cancerous areas in the body wherever there is a weakness in the bodily tissue. 6.. The awakening of the sacral center is of such ancient origin that it is not possible at this time to trace the true history of the development of the difficulties connected with sexual expression, nor is it desirable. I have dealt with the subject of sex in my other treatises, particularly in A Treatise on White Magic. I call attention to it only because in the course of the mystical life there is often a period of sexual difficulty if the mystic has not previously learnt sexual control and unless it has assumed balanced proportions to his other life activities and natural instincts in his consciousness. Else, as he touches the heights of spiritual contact and brings in the energy of his soul to the personality, that energy will pass straight down to the sacral center and not be arrested at the throat center, as it rightly should be. When this occurs, then perversions of the sex life may take place, or an undue importance may be attached to the sex activity, or the sexual imagination can be dangerously stimulated, leading to lack of control and to many of the difficulties known to physicians and psychologists. The result is ever an over-activity of the sex life in some form or another. 7.. The awakening of the center at the base of the spine during the final stages of the higher mystical experience carries with it its own dangers. These definitely affect the spine and consequently all the nerves which branch out in all directions from the spinal column. [539] The raising of the kundalini force - if brought about ignorantly and prematurely - may produce the rapid burning through of the protective web of etheric matter which separates the various areas of the body (controlled by the seven centers) from each other. This causes serious nervous trouble, inflammation of the tissues, spinal disease, and brain trouble. I have here hinted at some of the difficulties in an effort to give you a general picture of the problem of the mystic. To Netnews Homepage Previous Next Index Table of Contents Last updated Monday, July 6, 1998 © 1998 Netnews Association. All rights reserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 John thanks for the reading by Bailey. I have been a student of Bailey through the International Esoteric Healing Institute and a pratictioner of esoteric healing. In the last few years though I have been focusing more on Vitvan, and American Ancient Wisdom teacher, (who died in the late 60's) have you heard of him, I have not found many who have read his work and am always on the look out for those who have, georgeann --- john mathieson <j.mathieson wrote: > It is in my understanding that within the practice > of yoga nigra (sleep consciousness) that one can > redirect energies to different centres that works > toward a homogenous awakekening. This is also know > as the diamond state. The state between sleep and > wakefulness, it is the state where many psychic > phenomena happens. such as the well , the storehouse > of energy at the top of the head will cause the bell > to ring. the vibration difference of the astral and > the physical can also be felt. Within this state of > mind consciousness, the mind is susceptible to > suggestion, there fore the best time to service a > sankalpa or resolve, In this practice one test to > the task of being the observer neither trying to > attract or dispel thoughts, A state of Viagra ( > detachment) is there fore achieved. Fear and /or > guilt is overcome and the gates of harmony appear. > > All the best > John Mathieson > > http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/psychology2/psyc2215.html > To Netnews Homepage Previous Next > Index Table of Contents > > Esoteric Psychology II - Chapter II - The Ray > of Personality - Problems of Disciples and Mystics > > 1. Stimulation produces the awakening of the > lower psychic powers if the incoming energy is > directed to the solar plexus or to the throat > center. It produces the intense activities of the > centers and this can, in the early stages, [535] > cause definite psychic trouble. In illustration of > this I would like to indicate the general nature of > the difficulties to which the mystic can be > physically prone: > 1.. The awakening of the head center can > produce serious trouble if brought about prematurely > and even lead at times to insanity. Inflammation of > certain areas of the brain and certain forms of > brain tumors can be induced by a too rapid inflow of > the highest form of energy which a man can receive > prior to initiation. This takes place, however, only > in those cases where the man is a highly developed > person and of a mental type. In other cases of > premature soul inflow, the energy pours through the > opening at the top of the head and finds its way to > some one or other of the centers, according to the > ray type or stage of unfoldment. Where the greatest > attention of the man's consciousness and life force > is focused (even if unconsciously) to that point the > incoming energy will almost automatically flow. > 2.. The awakening of the ajna center which > is, as we have seen, primarily the result of the > development of a man's personality to the point of > integration, can (if the energies involved are not > correctly controlled) lead to serious eye trouble, > to many aural difficulties, to various forms of > neuritis, headache, migraine, and nerve difficulties > in various parts of the body. It can produce also > many difficulties connected with the pituitary body > and psychological trouble emanating from this > important controlling gland as well as definite > physical trouble. > 3.. The awakening of the heart center (which > is going on very rapidly at this time) is > responsible for many [536] forms of heart trouble > and for the various difficulties connected with the > autonomic nervous system, particularly in relation > to the vagus nerve. The prevalence of various forms > of heart disease at this time, particularly among > the intelligentsia, professional and financial > classes, is due to the awakening of this center and > to the discovery of an unrecognized capacity in > humanity to become group conscious, and to undertake > group service. The thymus gland, which controls in a > peculiar manner the life aspect in man, is closely > connected with the heart center, as might be > expected. This gland must eventually become more > active in the adult than is now the case, just as > the pineal gland in the coming human races will no > longer be an atrophied organism with its true > functions not understood and comprehended, but it > will be an active and important part of man's > equipment. This will take place normally and > naturally as man learns to function as a soul and > not just as a personality. > 4.. Again, much trouble among people is due > at this time to the awakening of the throat center. > This center governs and conditions the thyroid gland > and the para-thyroids. It can produce, when unduly > developed or prematurely awakened, hyperthyroidism > with its attendant difficulties and its often > dangerous effects upon the heart and upon the > metabolism of the body. The psychological effects > are well-known and recognized. These difficulties > are increased and this higher creative center unduly > stimulated and rendered a danger instead of an aid > to expression by the enforced celibacy of many > people, owing to the present unfortunate economic > conditions. These conditions are such that people > refrain from marriage and there is consequently > [537] the lack of opportunity to use (or to misuse) > the energy flowing through the sacral center. > Mystics are likewise prone to this difficulty. The > throat center is not used creatively nor is the > sacral center turned to its proper uses. The sacral > energy is carried prematurely to the throat where it > produces an intense stimulation. The equipment of > the man concerned has not yet reached the point > where it can be turned to creative work in any > field. There is no creative expression of any kind > as the development of the man does not permit him to > be creative in the higher sense. The Swiss people, > though highly intelligent, are not creative in this > sense. The energy flowing through the thyroid gland > is not used in creative art, music or writing in any > outstanding manner, and hence the prevalence of > goiter and thyroid difficulty. There is much energy > flowing through and to the thyroid gland and, as > yet, but little use made of it. > 5.. The increased activity and stimulation > of the solar plexus center today is a most fruitful > source of trouble. It produces a great deal of the > nervous difficulties to which women are particularly > prone, and many of the stomach ills and liver > troubles of the time, as well as intestinal > difficulties. One of the most powerful sources of > cancer in various parts of the body (except in the > head and face) can esoterically be traced to the > congestion of the energy of the solar plexus center. > This congestion has a general and widespread effect. > Difficulties arising from the awakening of the heart > center and the solar plexus center (for the two are > closely allied and have a reciprocal action for a > long time in the mystical experience) produce also a > powerful effect upon the blood stream. They are > connected with [538] the life principle which is > ever " carried upon the waves of desire " (as the > ancient writings put it) and this, when prevented > from full expression, through lack of development or > other causes, leads to cancerous areas in the body > wherever there is a weakness in the bodily tissue. > 6.. The awakening of the sacral center is of > such ancient origin that it is not possible at this > time to trace the true history of the development of > the difficulties connected with sexual expression, > nor is it desirable. I have dealt with the subject > of sex in my other treatises, particularly in A > Treatise on White Magic. I call attention to it only > because in the course of the mystical life there is > often a period of sexual difficulty if the mystic > has not previously learnt sexual control and unless > it has assumed balanced proportions to his other > life activities and natural instincts in his > consciousness. Else, as he touches the heights of > spiritual contact and brings in the energy of his > soul to the personality, that energy will pass > straight down to the sacral center and not be > arrested at the throat center, as it rightly should > be. When this occurs, then perversions of the sex > life may take place, or an undue importance may be > attached to the sex activity, or the sexual > imagination can be dangerously stimulated, leading > to lack of control and to many of the difficulties > known to physicians and psychologists. The result is > ever an over-activity of the sex life in some form > or another. > 7.. The awakening of the center at the base > of the spine during the final stages of the higher > mystical experience carries with it its own dangers. > These definitely affect the spine and consequently > all the nerves which branch out in all directions > from the spinal column. [539] The raising of the > kundalini force - if brought about ignorantly and > prematurely - may produce the rapid burning through > of the protective web of etheric matter which > separates the various areas of the body (controlled > by the seven centers) from each other. This causes > serious nervous trouble, inflammation of the > tissues, spinal disease, and brain trouble. > I have here hinted at some of the difficulties > in an effort to give you a general picture of the > problem of the mystic. > > > To Netnews Homepage Previous Next > Index Table of Contents > > Last updated Monday, July 6, 1998 © > 1998 Netnews Association. All rights reserved. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 --- What do I do to heal? That's a great question which probably takes many ongoing conversations to explore but I'll start with a short (hah) sketch. I'm more the disciple than the mystic as when I get someplace i want to know how that happened and how it fits in and how I can get back there. Now Bailey says the disciple needs to become the mystic and the mystic more the disciple so I guess balance is good! While I have taken the Reiki training it was not my modality being too much the mystic for me so 10 years ago I signed up at the Berkely CA acupressure institute where I studied acupressure which is grounded in Chinese meridian theory. The best (in my opinion) healers at this school I found out practiced something called JIN SHIN JYUTSU. So after a year of study there I left to find those teachers. To learn about it website jinshinjyutsu.com (I think). I was very enthusiastic about the effect this work had on me and others, needless to say I took the 5 day training (over the years) over 13 times, as well as other classes in how to teach it. What I liked about it besides how well it worked was it contained a strong self help component. So a person was not " tied " to a practioner but could learn it themselves. As a director of a child care center for low income and immigrant children in the US I had all my staff trained as practioners so we could work on each other and the children. It is in fact my favorite and most powerful healing that I practice. My dear friend Amy was also very excited about the healing modality she was learning so about 8 years ago began also learning esoteric healing. As you know from the Bailey Books there is a load of specific information about how to do energetic healing. A woman in England extracted and organized that information and began training people based on it. It involves the chakra system, it is " off the body " can be practiced at a distace, yet while incorporating the ancient wisdom philosphy it is very technical in its application. (something we disciples love but that drive mystics crazy lol) I took the 4 part series from a teacher in California who was an artist, and once from an teacher in Michigan who is a doctor. While you would not know it now but I was very uncomfortable with the whole hold your hands in the air and work with someones energy, I felt I had no natural bent for it was not born a phsyic in Russia or anything like that and felt well stupid YET compelled to learn it. I practice that mainly on people from a distance and for certain conditions that I have found in myself seemed to respond better than with Jin Shin. I think John it is about finding personally a modality you are comfortable with. I love a good treatment from a mystic, a Reiki practioner, a hands on healer. It is powerful and deeply effective. What I practice and also love receiving is Esoteric and Jin Shin Jyutsu and I have experience in their power and effectiveness also. Vitvan and my buddist practice led me into the truth of " no self " and what we see as solid is just and allusion so now I work a lot with myself with my own discomforts and illnesses as label and projects that can be affected by thought/vibrations. Recently I have experienced a kundialini awakening and I am just beginning to see how that is effecting my healing work but it seems to have amped it quited considerably. I don't know if this is to general or if it answers your question. But to be specific like today I am consulting on this educational project and my boss calls in and says she won't be there because she is in the emergency room with her daughter (grown daughter) whos heart won't stop racing, its going 170 beats a minute and the doctors are trying to get it down and figure out whats going on. So I think how can I help. I can't stop to give her a treatment (even long distace) as I am heading into an intense meeting. I can send her healing energy through my heart center, mind, kactive vibes etc. But I also remeber Jin Shin. There is a particular hold that helps with heart irregularites. So I tell her, in the hospital room go to the foot of her bed, cross your hands and grab each big toe with your thumb on top of the nail and the rest of your hand on the sole side of the big toe, including the knuckle. You don't have to tell anyone just stand there and hold that. Later in the day I get a call, she says the doctors say the condtion has stabalized, (she had been there since 3 in the morning) and it happened right after I did that thing you told me to do. MAN I JUST LOVEEEEE THIS STUFF hope this addresses at least some part of your question georgeann john mathieson <j.mathieson wrote: > Hello Georgeann > Alice Bailey is good stuff I am glad you liked it > and its good to meet others that like her writings. > I have not read all the books though I use the > online references quite a bit. I am sorry I do not > know ant thing about Vitvan up to now accept for > what you have motioned and Chiss has posted, > do you mind me asking what do you do to heal I wish > to have some pointers I am quite blind in these > matters and at this stage have little faith in it > though I am eager for practical suggestions. I have > alway felt that healing such as with hands or reiki > was out side of my domain and never really explored > it before. I feel it time to at least of most > experiment. I have a concrete foundation of > knowledge of energy that I need to build on with a > need to express. Healing might be that avenue to > partake in. I think Chris, would agree with me. > All the best. > John Mathieson > - > Georgeann Muntin > > Friday, October 14, 2005 1:41 AM > Re: > Problems of Disciples and Mystics > > > John > thanks for the reading by Bailey. I have been a > student of Bailey through the International > Esoteric > Healing Institute and a pratictioner of esoteric > healing. In the last few years though I have been > focusing more on Vitvan, and American Ancient > Wisdom > teacher, (who died in the late 60's) have you > heard of > him, I have not found many who have read his work > and > am always on the look out for those who have, > georgeann > > --- john mathieson <j.mathieson > wrote: > > > It is in my understanding that within the > practice > > of yoga nigra (sleep consciousness) that one can > > redirect energies to different centres that > works > > toward a homogenous awakekening. This is also > know > > as the diamond state. The state between sleep > and > > wakefulness, it is the state where many psychic > > phenomena happens. such as the well , the > storehouse > > of energy at the top of the head will cause the > bell > > to ring. the vibration difference of the astral > and > > the physical can also be felt. Within this state > of > > mind consciousness, the mind is susceptible to > > suggestion, there fore the best time to service > a > > sankalpa or resolve, In this practice one test > to > > the task of being the observer neither trying to > > attract or dispel thoughts, A state of Viagra ( > > detachment) is there fore achieved. Fear and /or > > guilt is overcome and the gates of harmony > appear. > > > > All the best > > John Mathieson > > > > > > http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/psychology2/psyc2215.html > > To Netnews Homepage Previous Next > > > Index Table of Contents > > > > Esoteric Psychology II - Chapter II - The > Ray > > of Personality - Problems of Disciples and > Mystics > > > > 1. Stimulation produces the awakening of > the > > lower psychic powers if the incoming energy is > > directed to the solar plexus or to the throat > > center. It produces the intense activities of > the > > centers and this can, in the early stages, [535] > > cause definite psychic trouble. In illustration > of > > this I would like to indicate the general nature > of > > the difficulties to which the mystic can be > > physically prone: > > 1.. The awakening of the head center can > > produce serious trouble if brought about > prematurely > > and even lead at times to insanity. Inflammation > of > > certain areas of the brain and certain forms of > > brain tumors can be induced by a too rapid > inflow of > > the highest form of energy which a man can > receive > > prior to initiation. This takes place, however, > only > > in those cases where the man is a highly > developed > > person and of a mental type. In other cases of > > premature soul inflow, the energy pours through > the > > opening at the top of the head and finds its way > to > > some one or other of the centers, according to > the > > ray type or stage of unfoldment. Where the > greatest > > attention of the man's consciousness and life > force > > is focused (even if unconsciously) to that point > the > > incoming energy will almost automatically flow. > > 2.. The awakening of the ajna center > which > > is, as we have seen, primarily the result of the > > development of a man's personality to the point > of > > integration, can (if the energies involved are > not > > correctly controlled) lead to serious eye > trouble, > > to many aural difficulties, to various forms of > > neuritis, headache, migraine, and nerve > difficulties > > in various parts of the body. It can produce > also > > many difficulties connected with the pituitary > body > > and psychological trouble emanating from this > > important controlling gland as well as definite > > physical trouble. > > 3.. The awakening of the heart center > (which > > is going on very rapidly at this time) is > > responsible for many [536] forms of heart > trouble > > and for the various difficulties connected with > the > > autonomic nervous system, particularly in > relation > > to the vagus nerve. The prevalence of various > forms > > of heart disease at this time, particularly > among > > the intelligentsia, professional and financial > > classes, is due to the awakening of this center > and > > to the discovery of an unrecognized capacity in > > humanity to become group conscious, and to > undertake > > group service. The thymus gland, which controls > in a > > peculiar manner the life aspect in man, is > closely > > connected with the heart center, as might be > > expected. This gland must eventually become more > > active in the adult than is now the case, just > as > > the pineal gland in the coming human races will > no > > longer be an atrophied organism with its true > > functions not understood and comprehended, but > it > > will be an active and important part of man's > > equipment. This will take place normally and > > naturally as man learns to function as a soul > and > > not just as a personality. > > 4.. Again, much trouble among people is > due > > at this time to the awakening of the throat > center. > > This center governs and conditions the thyroid > gland > > and the para-thyroids. It can produce, when > unduly > > developed or prematurely awakened, > hyperthyroidism > > with its attendant difficulties and its often > > dangerous effects upon the heart and upon the > > metabolism of the body. The psychological > effects > === message truncated === Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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