A different view point

[Guest guest]

Hi All-

 

Chrism has explained that he petitions me to write because he would

like different perspectives on the list. I would surmise that anyone

one with the K would have a differing perspective by the nature of it.

So I will relate to you what I see as different in my perspective.

 

My activation came under no engagement in any spiritual practice,

tradition or intention. This is not to say I was never involved in

such, just not at nor several years prior to the time the blessed event

took place. For over two and a half years after it came I was

independently engaged in my own discovery and my own practice finding

much of nothing that greatly correlated to my experience and behavior

in whatever I researched. Essentially my practice consisted of

discovering certain notions and experiences and then attempting to

pursue them by recreating the situations in which they came.

 

The elements of my current practice are which are the most noticeably

effective are those that use what I have been lead to before. Here is a

brief description of some things that work for me. I have lately been

using the feather and the cup, pointing and dipping the feather into

the cup, as I have described before. This gives a strong and pronounced

kriya response. I have been doing standing meditation in front of my

paintings, swaying to get my sacrum area relaxed and trying to see the

3D floating effect that is available to me in my work to be as big as

possible. I am sometimes also adding to a certain mental technique that

makes the flow and response stronger as I do these other things. One

day I discovered that I somehow had a finger on a button that would

bring the response on more fully. Whatever I do to do this is very

subtle. It is not something physical nor based on imagery or thought.

My guess is I have learned to fire a certain neuron path. The funny

thing is that I will this push, but the response (mostly kryias), which

can be very strong, is completely involuntary.

 

I think I want to write this to show that there might be a very

individual way that this spiritual education may unfold for any of you

too. For me it would be absurd to suggest to anyone to poke feathers

into cups as way to further their spirituality. But I must add that

this is stronger for me than any other practice that has been given by

others.

 

This I feel is an important issue. One's spiritual unfolding may very

little resemble another's and expectations that there be a consistency

can lead to unnecessary frustration and cause one to miss what is being

presented to them personally.

 

An example of differing spiritual unfolding is a Christian's response

to an ecstatic experience as a revelation that their soul is eternal

and a Zen Buddhist's response as a realization that their existence is

an illusion. (Although, in ecstatic talk both together are rather spot

on.)

 

The other issue here is that practice may lead to nothing other than

getting good at that practice. Or that the practice itself and getting

good at it is confused for what the practice is suppose to enhance.

Again there is something very subtle that needs to be included in the

practice or the deeper virtues of the practice will not be found.

 

The question is then; How does one learn this subtle aspect? And how

can it be taught? Personally at this time I could in no way be able to

show anyone how to elicit a similar response to what I get with what

are my practices. Perhaps in a full awakening I will discover the

perception and skills to tease it out of another, but I am not there

yet. But even in that I will not be able to show them directly, just

perhaps make it a little easier for them to see what there is to see

for themselves. And then practice may begin.

 

The problem here for most of us is that the spiritual experience is

totally internal, entirely subjective. A spiritual practice then is not

something that can be learned by imitation. There is no possibility of

direct comparison, no external confirmation that the student can

observe. If it is possible that the teacher can confirm with their

ascended skill, the student still must take it on faith (but at least

there is a yes or no to go on.) And again, when one does perceive

something that they then know to follow, the perception will wane and

various other competing faculties will alter it. (This is why I praise

the darkness over the light as it is the medium we work in.)

 

So how does one then first perceive that which they know to follow and

how do they know to follow it? And how do they recapture it when the

perception wanes? There is nothing that one can do here. I can only say

this is done by grace, pure divine grace. (Yes, a small tremor with

these words.) Angels, divinity, helpers, even colors, any way that it

coagulates for you, that is what shows you. The grace can be your own,

it can come from others, it can be ethereal, it is all divine. What

grace will do will is reveal something to you. It may repeat it over

and over in different ways for your own inner confirmation and to

overcome resistance and correct corruption of the perception. What your

job is is to get to that perception by your own volition. Grace will

show you again and again so that you can learn how to recreate it

yourself. This is the skill to learn.

 

And the idea comes that eventually this skill will lead to using your

volition to stir grace towards others. This is your own divinity in

action.

 

Thanks for reading-

 

Bret

[Guest guest]

Hi Bret,

Well written and very astute. My petitions are geared as you say

towards different perspectives. There are many commonalities within Kundalini

experiences and this is good as it allows us to feel a kinship within the

process as this can be somewhat fear inducing if one doesn't know what is

happening from the waking state daily consciousness point of view.

 

In asking for individual experience I am hoping to bring in the differences

that can occur. In a way giving those who are having a tremendously varied or

different experience then the classic spinal sweeping, colored lights, kryaing,

tingling, divine experience, a way of knowing that the K will manifest

differently for all but also with some aspects that are similar.

 

On this list is often mentioned how we all can experience this or that and the

emphasis is on the similarities as opposed to the differences. Yours is

different then most, and yet the kryas are there, the visions or feeling of

presence(s ) are there, many of the classic aspects of your unfolding are

repeated by others. Your activation was different and the ability to hold and

learn how the energy is manifesting and what indeed will work for you in the

reception and to some degree the management of your life with in the experience

is uniquely you. Therefore I feel it could be important for others who may have

similar concerns or experience but not so easy with it quite yet.

 

At no time did I intend for this to be an albatross for you. I thank you for

your input and what you have just written and all that you have written, - I

wish you happiness and joy for the coming year and all your coming years and I

will impose upon you no more - blessings - c

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

greetings to all from steve f... i get the feeling (and i may be wrong of

course) that brett is happy to share and doesn't feel it's an albatross, that he

is only humble regarding the k experience and realizing how subjective it is and

how deeply he has yet to go. so anyway, thanks brett and chrism for your shared

insights. i percieve something very powerful yet very subtle in my own practice.

i feel there is grace and that i am learning to get out of its way to just let

it do its thing. sometimes i'll wish for fireworks (and all the trimmings) but

then i'll feel the millions of tiny miracles that are happening every second. so

my wish and blessing for all of you in the new year- that you'll feel all the

beautiful and crazy miracles that occur for you at every moment. wishing you

uncertainty and wonder and love and peace.

-steve