Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Exploring the nature of fantasy...it is a desire to remain unconscious and asleep to the reality of the spirit. Fantasy is fueled by the unmet needs of the ego and the inner child. It is the antithesis of spiritual awakening. Any opinons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 , " reneedots " <reneedots wrote: > Exploring the nature of fantasy...it is a desire to remain unconscious > and asleep to the reality of the spirit. Fantasy is fueled by the unmet > needs of the ego and the inner child. It is the antithesis of spiritual awakening. > Any opinons? Only since you asked for opinions... a few thoughts. First, I'd have a question about the following, from earlier in this thread: >When a person commits themselves to another, their one true love, yet, they fantasize about having sex with others, is that betrayal of their one true love? Wouldn't it be true, that if they Truly loved their Beloved, that they would not feel the urge to fantasize about others? My question: Is the Beloved (with a capital B) or true love: 1. the Divine? 2. a higher aspect of oneself? 3. a human lover? Clearly, the answer could be very different depending on which of these was intended, and I don't want to assume too much. Your original assertion would, imo, apply to nos. 1 & 2, but not 3. > fantasy...it is a desire to remain unconscious and asleep to the reality of the spirit. I think that depends on how well one understands the nature of fantasy, and ones purposes in employing it. If we want to take a Buddhist stance, then fantasy is no more unreal than our everyday reality. Other systems of thought regard our thoughts as quite real, and that would include fantasy. If nothing else, it involoves the production of thought forms, and they are real (in most senses of that word). Fantasy can be done more or less unconsciously or consciously. >Fantasy is fueled by the unmet needs of the ego and the inner child. This sounds like " psychology " to me, and psychology always tries to explains things in terms that are too limited and limiting. Why would we want to have our psyches carved up into these categories? What do they mean? >Fantasy is the antithesis of spiritual awakening. This also needs some explaining (in other words, I don't see a direct connection). What does fantasy have to do with spiritual awakening, or lack of? Yes, fantasy can be dangerous and perhaps an obstacle to spiritual awakning if it is used to enhance ones self-importance, or if it includes any confusion of levels of reality. If one fantasizes about being a god, and has experiences on the astral-emotional plane to " prove " it, then that person is deluded (temporarily, we hope -- sometimes it takes time to understand our own experiences). But I don't know if that answers your question as you conceived it. Sorry I sound so critical -- it comes from years of being a teacher! I would also try to ask the same kinds of questions when confronting my own beliefs, opinions, etc... John E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 John E., Yes, I would agree with you. I believe there is more depth to this issue however, positions of exposure and passive aggression. The double motives may be just as injurious, spiritually and otherwise, to the questioner as to the one who is in question. - c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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