Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I've always been a firm believer in free will (and still am -- to some extent) but in recapitulating, some things have surprised me. Well maybe astounded me. Recapitulation, in whatever form, is truly worthwhile. I'm finding out that the " formative " events in my life weren't chosen by me. I may have set things up just right, been in the right place at the right time, but it often took some unexplained circumstance, a supposed coincidence, set up (and here's the important part) by someone else. Maybe unwittingly, but by someone else. I makes me wonder about the approach at one other Kundalini group where it's claimed you must do this for yourself, with hard work, etc. Nothing against hard work, but it could be that they're tapping into cultural norms and expectations rather than being realistic. This is something I had to look into, but found it wanting. Meanwhile, I somehow ended up a member of this small, relatively obscure (as these things go) group through a misunderstood reference made by someone elsewhere. Just one of those trivial little accidents, or so you would think... JohnE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 You choose. Always. Your more than a corporeal unit of flesh and blood and bone. You are an energy life form having a physical experience where memory is taken away for a time. The Kundalini is a path, and an entity, and a choice. It takes work to get to this place John E. So perhaps this is not an accident for you. The other list is correct though it does take work and desire and intent. Let Steves teaching be avalable to you. He worked. Now it works - chrism nologo3 <esposito wrote: I've always been a firm believer in free will (and still am -- to some extent) but in recapitulating, some things have surprised me. Well maybe astounded me. Recapitulation, in whatever form, is truly worthwhile. I'm finding out that the " formative " events in my life weren't chosen by me. I may have set things up just right, been in the right place at the right time, but it often took some unexplained circumstance, a supposed coincidence, set up (and here's the important part) by someone else. Maybe unwittingly, but by someone else. I makes me wonder about the approach at one other Kundalini group where it's claimed you must do this for yourself, with hard work, etc. Nothing against hard work, but it could be that they're tapping into cultural norms and expectations rather than being realistic. This is something I had to look into, but found it wanting. Meanwhile, I somehow ended up a member of this small, relatively obscure (as these things go) group through a misunderstood reference made by someone elsewhere. Just one of those trivial little accidents, or so you would think... JohnE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Good question: I also wonder. When I was in my late teens and early twenties, I was absolutely determined to get my K up. All I got was a massive entity trouble, spontaneous OBEs, and--yes--a bunch of very minor k-related visions. I was so ticked off that I became a militant atheist: I had looked so hard for the divine, and all I had gotten was astral garbage! The K came (back?) to me on its own terms about two years ago, at a time when I least expected it (I was way more concerned with getting tenured than with developing my spiritual life). I also keep reading about renonciates who put in long years of penance and self-deprivation to get their K up. It didn't take me nearly that long, nor did I have to punish my body and mind in any way. I shed most of the clutter *after* the K started her work, not before it. Frankly, it feels like the K chose me, even though I am not a particularly deserving person. On the other hand, I have also had a couple of visions about two previous lives during which I presumably worked the K, so perhaps there was some accumulated karma that kicked in... Love & light, Sel , chrism <> wrote: > > You choose. Always. Your more than a corporeal unit of flesh and blood and bone. You are an energy life form having a physical experience where memory is taken away for a time. The Kundalini is a path, and an entity, and a choice. It takes work to get to this place John E. So perhaps this is not an accident for you. The other list is correct though it does take work and desire and intent. Let Steves teaching be avalable to you. He worked. Now it works - chrism > > nologo3 <esposito wrote: I've always been a firm believer in free will (and still am -- to > some extent) but in recapitulating, some things have surprised > me. Well maybe astounded me. Recapitulation, in whatever > form, is truly worthwhile. I'm finding out that the " formative " > events in my life weren't chosen by me. I may have set things up > just right, been in the right place at the right time, but it often took > some unexplained circumstance, a supposed coincidence, set > up (and here's the important part) by someone else. Maybe > unwittingly, but by someone else. > I makes me wonder about the approach at one other Kundalini > group where it's claimed you must do this for yourself, with hard > work, etc. Nothing against hard work, but it could be that they're > tapping into cultural norms and expectations rather than being > realistic. This is something I had to look into, but found it > wanting. Meanwhile, I somehow ended up a member of this > small, relatively obscure (as these things go) group through a > misunderstood reference made by someone elsewhere. Just > one of those trivial little accidents, or so you would think... > > JohnE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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