Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 To add, I also remember them having beak-like faces/noses, as if they wore a mask. All of my visual experiences have come while I am in a hypnogogic state. I can go from being consciously awake into a hynogogic trance in a matter of minutes under the right circumstances. I have had other visual experiences while in this type of consciousness. In a hypnogogic state, I am neither awake nor asleep. Instead, I am in an in-between phase, where I am fully conscious and aware, but in a sort of trance or sleep-like state. This state occurs to most everyone when they are going into or coming out of sleep. For me, I can go into this state from a fully awakened consciousness if the kundalini wants to play. This is what happened with the dismemberment, so the visual experiences were part of a dream-like sequence, but more real because I was not dreaming. It is as if the brain is in both beta and delta frequencies at the same time. That is why most people will have visions when they are coming out of sleep, or in deep meditation. The brain and body are more relaxed and able to contact those realms that are outside of our normal waking awareness. What I wonder is if this is a contrived event in the brain, or are there really " little ones " out there waiting for us to be in the right frame of mind. Feeling skeptical, Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dear " Skeptical " , Maybe it's inevitable that you have to step back for a moment and ask " Did that really happen? " but I would say that whatever happened happened. It was real and it wasn't just in that mushy white stuff we call the brain. Virtually every culture in the history of the world (except maybe ours!) has beliefs in beings that are human-like in a way, but are not human. Sometimes they're little, and sometimes they're not. Sometimes they're benign, and sometimes they're described as demons. There are literally hundreds of names for other types of beings in English alone, so they must be " real " . Don't fall into the trap of equating the " real " with the physical-solid-material world; the latter may be " harder " , but it's not " realer " . Most of those other cultures also believe that events in altered states are as real if not more so than experiences in " physical reality " (but if you analyze these terms they fall apart,and we all end up sounding like Buddhists...) These events were just as real as any others. As for Max Ernst, he had a reputation as quite the wizard. I suspect he knew what he was doing when he painted his bizarre pictures. With a little digging we could surely come up with many more cross-cultural examples that would corroborate your experience. Chris has posted one of many such images from alchemy, which has been around for over 2000 years. But the bottom line is that you experienced it; some day you (or I) might experience something that's not corroborated by others, and then we would have only our own experience as a benchmark: in unmapped territory, you make your own map. If it happened it was real: and if there's any doubt about that, then simply proceed as if it was real, and see where that takes you. Of course I haven't gone through this, so who am I to give advice... But I'm certainly convinced that your experience was genuine. John E , " tara_tuttare " <taratuttare wrote: > > To add, I also remember them having beak-like faces/noses, as if they wore a mask. > > All of my visual experiences have come while I am in a hypnogogic state. I can go > from being consciously awake into a hynogogic trance in a matter of minutes > under the right circumstances. I have had other visual experiences while in this > type of consciousness. In a hypnogogic state, I am neither awake nor asleep. > Instead, I am in an in-between phase, where I am fully conscious and aware, but > in a sort of trance or sleep-like state. This state occurs to most everyone when > they are going into or coming out of sleep. For me, I can go into this state from > a fully awakened consciousness if the kundalini wants to play. This is what > happened with the dismemberment, so the visual experiences were part of a > dream-like sequence, but more real because I was not dreaming. It is as if the > brain is in both beta and delta frequencies at the same time. > > That is why most people will have visions when they are coming out of sleep, or > in deep meditation. The brain and body are more relaxed and able to contact > those realms that are outside of our normal waking awareness. > > What I wonder is if this is a contrived event in the brain, or are there really > " little ones " out there waiting for us to be in the right frame of mind. > > Feeling skeptical, Tara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Its a real place and they are real entities. This is one of the aspects of the Kundalini that is difficult for people living with in a five sense dynamic. " How can this be happening? " " I must be going nuts! " and off to the psyche ward they go. You have a good hold on yourself though Tara. This was real, it did happen, and there is more to come. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Thank you John. You are right, and I have been here many a time wondering, WOW did that just happen? So I guess we are the drivers. Chris says buckle up, he thinks you're going for a ride soon , " nologo3 " <esposito wrote: > > Dear " Skeptical " , > > Maybe it's inevitable that you have to step back for a moment and > ask " Did that really happen? " but I would say that whatever > happened happened. It was real and it wasn't just in that mushy > white stuff we call the brain. Virtually every culture in the history of > the world (except maybe ours!) has beliefs in beings that are > human-like in a way, but are not human. Sometimes they're little, > and sometimes they're not. Sometimes they're benign, and > sometimes they're described as demons. There are literally > hundreds of names for other types of beings in English alone, > so they must be " real " . Don't fall into the trap of equating the > " real " with the physical-solid-material world; the latter may be > " harder " , but it's not " realer " . Most of those other cultures also > believe that events in altered states are as real if not more so > than experiences in " physical reality " (but if you analyze these > terms they fall apart,and we all end up sounding like > Buddhists...) These events were just as real as any others. > As for Max Ernst, he had a reputation as quite the wizard. I > suspect he knew what he was doing when he painted his bizarre > pictures. > With a little digging we could surely come up with many more > cross-cultural examples that would corroborate your experience. > Chris has posted one of many such images from alchemy, > which has been around for over 2000 years. > But the bottom line is that you experienced it; some day you (or I) > might experience something that's not corroborated by others, > and then we would have only our own experience as a > benchmark: in unmapped territory, you make your own map. > If it happened it was real: and if there's any doubt about that, then > simply proceed as if it was real, and see where that takes you. > Of course I haven't gone through this, so who am I to give > advice... But I'm certainly convinced that your experience was > genuine. > > John E > > > , > " tara_tuttare " <taratuttare@> wrote: > > > > To add, I also remember them having beak-like faces/noses, > as if they wore a mask. > > > > All of my visual experiences have come while I am in a > hypnogogic state. I can go > > from being consciously awake into a hynogogic trance in a > matter of minutes > > under the right circumstances. I have had other visual > experiences while in this > > type of consciousness. In a hypnogogic state, I am neither > awake nor asleep. > > Instead, I am in an in-between phase, where I am fully > conscious and aware, but > > in a sort of trance or sleep-like state. This state occurs to most > everyone when > > they are going into or coming out of sleep. For me, I can go > into this state from > > a fully awakened consciousness if the kundalini wants to play. > This is what > > happened with the dismemberment, so the visual experiences > were part of a > > dream-like sequence, but more real because I was not > dreaming. It is as if the > > brain is in both beta and delta frequencies at the same time. > > > > That is why most people will have visions when they are > coming out of sleep, or > > in deep meditation. The brain and body are more relaxed and > able to contact > > those realms that are outside of our normal waking > awareness. > > > > What I wonder is if this is a contrived event in the brain, or are > there really > > " little ones " out there waiting for us to be in the right frame of > mind. > > > > Feeling skeptical, Tara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 On Tuesday, October 4, 2005 I had my dismemberment. My heart was twelve inches above my face, beating. I didn't see anyone but my heart beating and the bell of my personal stethoscope on my heart. In my side vision I could see movement and feel movement of my body parts. I thanked who ever for protected me from the horrible sight. B chrism <> wrote: Yes, this has been my experience and it is consistent with other cultures. Remember though most people do not experience the Kundalini, and those that do seldom keep records, especially in our social environment. If you look at Hildegaard's paintings you see the little ones, The native Americans of the southwest speak of the Konichis their name for the little ones, then of course the amazonian natives and their ayahuasca little ones, the Irish and their elves and leprechauns and fairy folk, the Scottish brownies, this is a consistent theme throughout our cultures and within the context of the Kundalini they seem to be one of the agents of dismemberment possibly due to the small size being less of a threat to the person being reorganized. Barbara just saw hands holding her heart and stethoscope. I have actually seen the little ones and they are as I described. Did you get a visual Tara as this occurred to you? - tara_tuttare <taratuttare wrote: You speak of little one's alot lately. Is it common for the dismembering to be done by humanoid little one's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 In many cultures there are spirits called " little ones " . A wise woman of the Cherokee tribe here in NC discussed this with me when I told her about my multi experiences when I went on a vision quest to sort my mind after cancer. As I walked I saw a great warrior (about 5 stories tall on a stallion- one of my protectors). But, I was escorted by small, happy spirits the entire 24 hour walk. She referred to them as playful, " like children " . They seemed pleasent enough. Interesting experience. One of those " you know without knowing " kind of things. It certainly was what I needed as I began my quest for Spiritual healing. Just Sharing... :) SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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