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Sara wrote:

> I exposed my two year old to chicken pox, so that he wouldn't get them later

> in life, I had them at 17 and it was really rough for me, he didn't have much

> trouble with them at all. I would like to expose them to other childhood

> diseases, but it is becoming nearly impossible.

 

While I'm not opposed to the idea of exposing children to these diseases so

that they contract it " naturally " I have yet to come across a child with

*anything* beyond a cold or flu. I'm not crazy about exposing my son, just

because I hate to see him suffer, but I'd rather get it over with.

And someone (not on this list) mentioned that it's good for a boy to get it

before puberty. Anyone know about this? I asked her for details, but she

hasn't had a chance to reply yet.

~Doh

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In a message dated 10/16/2002 6:17:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

dohdriver writes:

 

> While I'm not opposed to the idea of exposing children to these diseases so

> that they contract it " naturally " I have yet to come across a child with

> *anything* beyond a cold or flu

 

Anyone with shingles can pass chicken pox to anyone who isn't already immune

to them, that is how my son got them. A friend of mine had shingles, her

daughter rubbed the rash and got chicken pox, she then threw a " chicken pox

party " . I wasn't that big on purposely getting my son sick, but I didn't

want him to get them when he was older and would have a harder time with

them.

 

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin Patrick 12/07/99

Jack Michael 8/07/02

 

 

 

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Doh! wrote:

 

> I'm not crazy about exposing my son, just

> because I hate to see him suffer, but I'd rather get it over with.

> And someone (not on this list) mentioned that it's good for a boy to get it

> before puberty. Anyone know about this? I asked her for details, but she

> hasn't had a chance to reply yet.

 

Chicken pox can potentially cause sterility if contracted by an adult man.

I believe measels (rubella) can do the same.

 

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Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

President, The Arlington Cooperative Organization

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

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, Doh! <dohdriver> wrote:

>

>

>

> Sara wrote:

> > I exposed my two year old to chicken pox, so that he wouldn't get

them later

> > in life, I had them at 17 and it was really rough for me, he

didn't have much

> > trouble with them at all. I would like to expose them to other

childhood

> > diseases, but it is becoming nearly impossible.

>

> While I'm not opposed to the idea of exposing children to these

diseases so

> that they contract it " naturally " I have yet to come across a child

with

> *anything* beyond a cold or flu.

 

Come visit here in Winnipeg - since the varicella vaccine, while

available, is not mandatory or even pushed very hard, there is plenty

of " natural " chickenpox to be had. Both of my sons got it at daycare.

They also got various versions of Coxsackie virus (hand, foot and

mouth disease).

 

I'm not crazy about exposing my

son, just

> because I hate to see him suffer, but I'd rather get it over with.

> And someone (not on this list) mentioned that it's good for a boy to

get it

> before puberty. Anyone know about this? I asked her for details,

but she

> hasn't had a chance to reply yet.

 

 

The thing for boys to get before puberty, or else be vaccinated, is

mumps. It can cause sterility. There was also a time here in Manitoba

that boys were not vaccinated against rubella, just girls, and there

was a HUGE outbreak of it just a few years ago. My friend was VERY

concerned about her teenaged son, but he seems to be OK, thank G-d.

 

 

Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.

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, Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia@o...>

wrote:>

> Chicken pox can potentially cause sterility if contracted by an

adult man.

> I believe measels (rubella) can do the same.

 

Just to be pedantic, measles and rubella are not the same disease

(that is why the vaccine is called the MMR - measles, mumps,

rubella). Rubella is sometimes called German measles, which I guess

could lead to confusion. It is rubella that can cause birth defects

if the mother catches it in early pregnancy. Chicken pox can be quite

unpleasant for adults, as can measles, but AFAIK mumps is the one

that can cause sterility.

 

Does anybody remember the murder mystery (Agatha Christie?) that

hinges on a case of rubella? No vaccination then at all ...

 

Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.

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On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Lion's Ima wrote:

 

> , Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia@o...>

> wrote:>

> > Chicken pox can potentially cause sterility if contracted by an

> adult man.

> > I believe measels (rubella) can do the same.

>

> Just to be pedantic, measles and rubella are not the same disease

> (that is why the vaccine is called the MMR - measles, mumps,

> rubella). Rubella is sometimes called German measles, which I guess

> could lead to confusion. It is rubella that can cause birth defects

> if the mother catches it in early pregnancy. Chicken pox can be quite

> unpleasant for adults, as can measles, but AFAIK mumps is the one

> that can cause sterility.

 

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I did some more research, and it

appears you're right about chicken pox not causing sterility, although

chicken pox tends to be more severe and more likely to develop serious

side effects in adults. However, I did find out that contracting chicken

pox during pregnancy can cause birth defects, which I wasn't aware of

before.

 

http://www.pediatriconcall.com/fordoctor/DiseasesandCondition/varicellainfectinp\

reg.asp

 

 

----

Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia

President, The Arlington Cooperative Organization

 

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered

three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

-- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad "

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The main issue with chicken pox during pregnancy is the dangerous effect on

the fetus of the high fever that can be associated with chicken pox.

 

Or so we were told when my wife contracted chicken pox when she was pregnant

with my son many moons ago.

 

And just FYI an undiagnosed case of chicken pox can cause a pregnant woman to

test positive for sexually transmitted disease (chicken pox is also known as

herpes zoster) and then to make wild accusing phone calls . . . but that's

another story.

 

Phil Welsher

 

 

 

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