weight gain

[Guest guest]

Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

get daddy's height?!

 

While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

more weight and have her return to the office in one

month for a weight check.

 

It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

with spoon).

 

The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

this?

 

Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

of the growth curves?

 

The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

Hopefully she'll come back to it.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Joann

 

 

 

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OMG! This is exactly what happened to us when Joy (now 4) was that age.

I've since left the pediatrician that gave me so much hell about her weight and

have found every other pediatrician to be much more understanding of heredity,

activity, etc.....

Does your pediatrician know about your diet? It seems to me the non-veggie (or

should I say veggie ignorant) doctors will pick on that as the reason for any

issue.

If your daughter is showing any failure to thrive, that's one thing. It doesn't

sound like that at all, though. I would suggest, if *you* think there is a

problem, you make food available to her and let her graze.

(this is choppy because I just woke up and only had a few hours of

sleep...sorry)

Get out old pictures of you and other family members from their younger days.

Do you see any similarities? My husband was the littlest pip squeak among his

friends. Now, Joy looks much like he did at that age. So, for her, it's a

matter of genes. She, too, is active, smart, quick witted, and all that stuff.

When this happened to us, I increased the amount of fat I put in Joy's food

(coconut milk, flax oil, olive oil, sesame oil......) and made sure she had food

whenever she wanted it. She gained a little more weight, but leveled out again.

Now, she's 4 and weighs a little over 30 lbs. My 2 year old weighs 27 lbs. Her

current pediatrician just says, " she's petite " .

I feel like I'm rambling......I just want you to know that your doctor is

probably freaking you out for nothing and may just have issues about the diet.

It sounds like your daughter is thriving and just petite. Our pediatrician says

as long as there is an increase in either height or weight, it's okay.

I have also heard that the formula companies come out with the growth charts. I

don't know where I got that info though. I do know there is a separate growth

chart for breast fed children.

Hang in there. Don't let the doc stress you out and keep talking to other

parents about this stuff.

Lucy

Joann Toth <postfem wrote:Can someone help? I just took my 15 month

old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

get daddy's height?!

 

While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

more weight and have her return to the office in one

month for a weight check.

 

It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

with spoon).

 

The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

this?

 

Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

of the growth curves?

 

The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

Hopefully she'll come back to it.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Joann

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Joann,

I had similar problems with my children but they turned out fine. My

daughter only grew 3/4 " between 18-24 months. She had slipped from the 50

percentile to the 25. My doctor said it's not the fact that she was

concerned with the low height but that she had slipped down into the next

percentile. If your child has always been in the same percentile it

shouldn't be a problem as long as she is growing at a steady rate. My

doctor suggested a wait and see approach and we took her back a couple of

months in a row for a height and weight check. Then I was getting anxious

and thought why wait. If there is a problem we should do something about

it right away. This was a mistake. We did some blood test and one came

back that there was a chance she could have a wheat allergy. After the

next height check she was fine and continues to be fine. At that time I

thought it was because we gave her too much juice so we cut way back on

that. My son did the same thing. He is in the 10th percentile and slipped

into the 5th for a while. I started feeding him more veggie sausage, tofu,

lentils and pediasure. I think the pediasure after a while gave him

diarrhea. Anyway he if fine now and back up into the 10th percentile. My

husband will make comments that he is small because he is vegetarian but he

was small before he was even eating solids and before he was the age the

meats and normally introduced into the diets. Don't worry. Everything is

probably okay.

 

Mary M. Paul

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11510 American Holly Drive

Laurel, MD 20708

301-497-5725 (office)

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Please respond to

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

get daddy's height?!

 

While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

more weight and have her return to the office in one

month for a weight check.

 

It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

with spoon).

 

The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

this?

 

Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

of the growth curves?

 

The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

Hopefully she'll come back to it.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Joann

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Joann,

We have been through this too, and my best advice is not to worry (easier

said than done I know)! Your daughter is the perfect weight for her height.

 

Your description sounds exactly like my dd: 50th percentile through 12 mos

then 5th, never sick except roseola, very active, very bright, loves

veggies, & my mom is 4'10 " . Our doc put her through a battery of tests and

everything came back fine (her protein & calcium were a little high --

flabergasting my mother-in-law!). She is 4 now, and only 25#, 36 " . Whenever

anyone comments on her size, I just suggest that she's going to take after

her Grammee.

 

Feel free to email me privately if there's anything I can help with.

Bonnie

PS: We finally turned the carseat around when she was about 14-15 mos and

still only 19#.

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Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:30:58 -0800 (PST)

Joann Toth <postfem

weight gain

 

<Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight.>

[Guest guest]

I think the issue here is that your daughter is healthy and that developmentally

she is appropriate for her age. The fact that she is active, communicative, can

feed herself (although if she is anything like my 15-month old daughter, the aim

into her mouth is getting better, it's just keeping the contents of the spoon or

fork into her mouth that needs improvement!), and has achieved other so-called

milestones is testimony enough that she is thriving and getting the appropriate

nutrients to support such physical and cognitive developments. OK. So she's not

big. It sounds as though she has inherited the more diminutive genes in the

pool. Go know. My husband and I are of average height and are fairly thin people

and at her 15 month well visit our daughter was in the 90th percentile for

height and 85th for weight -- and this is on an exclusively breastfed, vegan

diet. So, at this young age, I don't think one thing precludes the other. As

long as your daughter is eating well and eating sufficient amounts of food for

her size and age, it seems unnatural to me to try to " plump " her up, as it were.

I'm not saying you shouldn't offer her foods such as peanut butter or avocado

that are healthy but contain good fats while having a higher caloric content, as

those are quite good foods to include in her diet. I wouldn't, however,

recommend giving her more juice as that's just added sugar. I would just

recommend you continue to offer your daughter a variety of foods from all

groups, as well as snacks (such as fruit-juice sweetened cookies, which I

realize somewhat contradicts my anti-juice comment, and graham crackers, fruity

booty, etc) and let her decide how much she actually wants to eat. Nature will

take its course and she will soon break the 20 lb barrier, but it doesn't seem

like there is any real advantage to getting her to gain weight if she is healthy

and developmentally on track. She'll probably (but hopefully not) have enough

issues with food and her weight once she hits her teens!

 

-

Joann Toth

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:16 AM

 

weight gain

 

Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

get daddy's height?!

 

While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

more weight and have her return to the office in one

month for a weight check.

 

It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

with spoon).

 

The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

this?

 

Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

of the growth curves?

 

The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

Hopefully she'll come back to it.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Joann

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Joann,

I have had a similar situation with my son, now three. He was only 16 pounds

at a year. He as been in the third percentile for weight for a while now and

the seventh for height. He's now a little over three and is now about 29

pounds. I, too, am petite and my husband, while 5'10 " , is slender and small

framed. My doctor has never really been concerned. In fact, he's really not

concerned about weight because most kids these days are severely overweight.

My doctor is aware that my son and I eat a vegan diet, and he has no problem

with it. When he was under two, I was very concerned about his fat intake

and I added olive oil or flax oil to a lot of his foods. I'm not really sure

it made him gain any more weight, but I was most concerned with brain

development because fatty acids are so important to that. I still add these

oils, but I'm probably not as rigid about it now that he is three. My son is

also very healthy and physically active, so I knew there was nothing really

wrong with him. I also read a nutrition book written by Dr. Sears that said

that physical stature is something like 98 percent determined by genetics

and not by diet, unless the child is malnurished. This made me feel a bit

better, too.

As for the growth charts and their relationship to formula companies, I

learned the following from my lactation consultant: the data was gathered

on white midwestern children who were all formula fed. It doesn't take into

consideration other ethnicities or breastfeeding. Furthermore, breastfed

babies typically grow faster during their first six months of life and then

their growth rate tapers off a bit. Formula fed babies grow faster after the

six-month mark.

As for studies, there was one done on children who were brought up at The

Farm, a vegetarian intentional community in Tennessee. From what I can

recall, the study found there to be little or no difference in the size of

veg kids and meat eaters. I think this study was quoted in the Vegetarian

Pregnancy or Child books.

I hope this helps a bit. I know it is really hard when everybody thinks your

kid is small for his/her age, especially because so many kids these days are

so huge. But size has no baring on the person. My son is intelligent,

healthy and ultra-coordinated. He taught himself to dribble a basketball

when he was 20 months old. No kidding. I knew that he would never be able to

do something like that if he was unhealthy or malnurished.

Also, here are a few things I did to add more calories. I added flax oil to

his soy yogurt, had him eat avocados on a regular basis, gave him a lot of

nutbutters, which you can stir into a lot of foods. Good luck.

Julie

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" Joann Toth " <postfem

 

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:30 PM

weight gain

 

 

> Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her

> well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

> been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

> height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

> mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

> get daddy's height?!

>

> While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

> sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

> ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

> more weight and have her return to the office in one

> month for a weight check.

>

> It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

> reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

> she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

> climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

> pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

> words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

> with spoon).

>

> The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

> that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

> this?

>

> Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

> growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

> of the growth curves?

>

> The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

> increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

> oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

> like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

> have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

>

> Has anyone else had this problem?

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

> increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

> anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

> Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

> guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

> Hopefully she'll come back to it.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> Joann

>

>

>

> Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site

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>

>

> For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joann Toth <postfem wrote:

> Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her check up. Since her

12 month check up she has been in the 5th percentile for height and weight.

While the doc thinks she is healthy,she still wants her to gain more weight

 

Easy!

 

Enroll dried fruits and nuts.(Those things incidentally also have lots of

iron and calcium).

For instance give her homemade muesli. Buy plain cereal flakes (oat, wheat,

a variety), add raisins, ground almonds, walnuts and hazelnuts, chopped

dates, sesame seeds etc...

Put same fruit/nut mixture in pancakes too - so they won't need sugar or

other unhealthy sweeteners.

Give her beans with pasta (like in minestrone soup)

Give her hummus (chickpea puree with olive oil, lemon, tahini sauce - tahini

is ground sesame seeds, very caloric and very healthy).

Make guacamole (avocado puree with olive oil, lemon, garlic - avocados are

also very fat and very caloric, but it's a nice style of fat for those who

want to gain weight)

Give her slices of bread with a drizzle of olive oil and some chopped tomato

and feta cheese over it.

 

Make sure she nibbles between meals (that's how I got overweight, so it

should work!)

 

Irene

 

Towards_health_and_beauty/ Friendly support

and guidance to everyone struggling with weight and wellness problems.

[Guest guest]

Joann,

When my daughter was little - she was LITTLE! My advice to you is to not worry.

She is FINE! When I took my daughter to a nutrionalist she told me that the

charts are put out by the formula groups and primarily target the Caucasian

group. Her experience was that breast feed, vegetarian, and children of

different ethnic groups never fit the charts - this does not mean they are not

normal.

My husband had three aunts who were all under 5' tall, he himself in 5' 11 " and

very thin. My daughter strongly takes after his family's heritage and now at

12.5 years is all of 5' 1 " and fully grown! (I'm only 5'2 " BTW). Genetics are

the primary control factor in a child height - not diet. My daughter was the

same as yours - active, smart, busy - and she was never even ON the charts at

that age. She developed her own growth curve and developed just as she should.

Primarily I am going to suggest you change Doctors. Don't try and force weight

gain - she will grow as she is geneticlly designed to. I made that mistake with

my #3 son and listened to the dr and put him on formula - major allergies and

lots of self-education later taught me alot - He is now 16 and excactly the same

size as his dad but even thinner (healthy and active - its genetics). My

youngest son is small for his age, completely veg, and excactly the height #3

son was at this age. Any time I get " caring comments " from friends I just remind

them that my youngest three were all small.

Hang in there - she will continue to be healthy, happy, and smart - anyway this

world could use more like her!

Oh! About the car seat - get a front facing one that can be adjusted for her

small size and let her turn around. Just make sure she is secure and in the

center f the back seat!

Virginia (mother of five - all different shapes and sizes now!)

Joann Toth <postfem wrote:Can someone help? I just took my 15 month

old for her

well check up. Since her 12 month check up she has

been in the 5th percentile for height and weight. The

height doesn't concern me; I am only 5 feet tall, my

mom is 4 11, and my partner is 6 1. Guess she didn't

get daddy's height?!

 

While the doc thinks she is healthy (she hasn't been

sick in over 3 months and the worst sickness she's

ever had was roseola), she still wants her to gain

more weight and have her return to the office in one

month for a weight check.

 

It is frustrating for us too because she hasn't

reached the 20 pounds to turn her car seat around;

she's 18 lbs. 10 oz. She is very active (running,

climbing) and very smart (names objects in book, turns

pages, feeds stuffed animals and dolls, has many

words, communicates well without crying, feeds self

with spoon).

 

The doc also mentioned that it's the formula companies

that make the growth charts. Does anyone have info on

this?

 

Does anyone have any info about vegetarian children

growing more slowly or tending to be at the lower end

of the growth curves?

 

The doc suggested that we add butter to her veggies to

increase her calorie intake (I'd prefer to use olive

oil) and to stay away from empty calories in things

like juice. We rarely give her juice and when she does

have it, we only give her 4 ounces.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about ways to

increase her calories? For the most part, she will eat

anything we give her. She even eats brussel sprouts!

Although recently, she has decided she doesn't like

guacamole, and it used to be one of her favorites.

Hopefully she'll come back to it.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Joann

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " Irene Maradei " <shantima@o...> wrote:

> Joann Toth <postfem> wrote:

> > Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her check up.

>

> Enroll dried fruits and nuts.(Those things incidentally also have

lots of

> iron and calcium).

> For instance give her homemade muesli. Buy plain cereal flakes (oat,

wheat,

> a variety), add raisins, ground almonds, walnuts and hazelnuts, chopped

> dates, sesame seeds etc...

 

You might want to exercise caution in giving nuts to a 15-month old.

There are many more nut allergies around in North America than there

used to be (there are lots of different theories as to why). Some

people recommend giving no nuts at all until the age of 3, especially

if there are allergies in the family.

 

BTW, my kids are all small, too, but healthy.

 

Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.

[Guest guest]

Potential allergans and respectable nutritional value notwithstanding, dried

fruits and nuts are inappropriate foods for a 15 month old who, more likely than

not, has yet to cut the teeth which would be capable of properly chewing these

foods. Even if they have, these foods are also viable choking hazards for babies

under the age of 2 -- ground nuts, as well. Even at 2 years old, I would

exercise caution in offering these nuts and dried fruits to such small children.

 

 

 

-

Lion's Ima

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:20 AM

 

Re: weight gain

 

, " Irene Maradei " <shantima@o...> wrote:

> Joann Toth <postfem> wrote:

> > Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her check up.

>

> Enroll dried fruits and nuts.(Those things incidentally also have

lots of

> iron and calcium).

> For instance give her homemade muesli. Buy plain cereal flakes (oat,

wheat,

> a variety), add raisins, ground almonds, walnuts and hazelnuts, chopped

> dates, sesame seeds etc...

 

You might want to exercise caution in giving nuts to a 15-month old.

There are many more nut allergies around in North America than there

used to be (there are lots of different theories as to why). Some

people recommend giving no nuts at all until the age of 3, especially

if there are allergies in the family.

 

BTW, my kids are all small, too, but healthy.

 

Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree about the dried fruit as even with all your teeth they are

hard to chew, also a lot of dried fruit has a preservative in it that

is not good for you (sulfides????). My daughter has been eating nuts

though since about 15 months old and has never had any problems but

we definately supervised closely when she ate them till about 19

months.

 

Rachael

 

, " robin werner " <RZarensky@m...> wrote:

> Potential allergans and respectable nutritional value

notwithstanding, dried fruits and nuts are inappropriate foods for a

15 month old who, more likely than not, has yet to cut the teeth

which would be capable of properly chewing these foods. Even if they

have, these foods are also viable choking hazards for babies under

the age of 2 -- ground nuts, as well. Even at 2 years old, I would

exercise caution in offering these nuts and dried fruits to such

small children.

>

>

>

> -

> Lion's Ima

> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:20 AM

>

> Re: weight gain

>

> , " Irene Maradei " <shantima@o...> wrote:

> > Joann Toth <postfem> wrote:

> > > Can someone help? I just took my 15 month old for her check

up.

> >

> > Enroll dried fruits and nuts.(Those things incidentally also have

> lots of

> > iron and calcium).

> > For instance give her homemade muesli. Buy plain cereal flakes

(oat,

> wheat,

> > a variety), add raisins, ground almonds, walnuts and hazelnuts,

chopped

> > dates, sesame seeds etc...

>

> You might want to exercise caution in giving nuts to a 15-month old.

> There are many more nut allergies around in North America than there

> used to be (there are lots of different theories as to why). Some

> people recommend giving no nuts at all until the age of 3,

especially

> if there are allergies in the family.

>

> BTW, my kids are all small, too, but healthy.

>

> Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is pretty easy to find dried organic fruits without

perservatives. Check your local heath food store,

coop, or order on the internet.

 

I really wonder about all the hype about 'choking

hazard' foods. At my son's first birthday my brother

(he has no children) was feeding him whole grapes and

I was curious to see what would happen. My son would

somehow eat the inside of the grape and spit out the

skin. I've seen him do similar things with other

'choking hazard foods'. I really wonder how many kids

actually are hurt by foods (I think toys, balloons,

etc. might be another story). They seem to have such

a great gag reflex. Personally, I've never seen a

problem with dried fruits or nuts...he's never even

gagged on them.

 

Linda

--- smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote:

> I agree about the dried fruit as even with all your

> teeth they are

> hard to chew, also a lot of dried fruit has a

> preservative in it that

> is not good for you (sulfides????). My daughter has

> been eating nuts

> though since about 15 months old and has never had

> any problems but

> we definately supervised closely when she ate them

> till about 19

> months.

>

> Rachael

>

>

 

 

 

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Hope all had a great holiday. I have been really busy

and am just getting a chance to reply.

 

Thanks to all who wrote in about my dd's weight and

height. It was reassuring to hear that others have had

similar situations. Thank you also for the info on

growth charts. Having used them, I get the same

percentile as the doc's office.

 

For the record, our doc has always been supportive of

our vegetarian diet and has never questioned us. In

fact, she is a meat eater (I even saw her in the

grocery once buying hotdogs) and told us she'd prefer

patients drink soy milk because of the hormones in

cow's milk. Our doc seems to think it is

genetic/heredity but doesn't want to rule out illness.

She is cautious but not worried. She has also

complimented us on how attentive we are to the

nutrition of our child. She was impressed that I knew

how much protien and iron she should be getting.

 

I suspect as has been suggested that genetics/heredity

is playing havoc on my dd. We pulled my baby book out

and Quinn and I are almost identical in height and

weight for that age (I was fed meat and drank cow's

milk). In addition, I am still breastfeeding 2 times a

day. So I think my dd is covered when it comes to a

healthy diet. I don't think I am going to worry about

the weight gain. She'll take care of herself.

 

As for the car seat, I can't justify turning it prior

to 20 pounds when I just saw some new car seats that

are designed to be rear facing up to 30 pounds. This

is probably for infants who are overweight and don't

have the head muscle development to be foreward

facing. My doc said that if we were to get pulled

over, the officer wouldn't know unless s/he had a

scale. But I wonder about why the weight requirement

if it is ignored. I know so many people who turn their

car seats before the one year mark or 20 pounds. Just

a thought.

 

Lastly, there are Krispy Kremes here in Ohio too. It

is so sad that there are stores like this. All that

sameness everywhere you go in the US. What happen to

the " mom and pop " stores, the local businesses?

 

Thanks again for all the supportive comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I really wonder how many kids

actually are hurt by foods

 

When I was in high school, I used to babysit a little boy after school. One

day, he was eating spaghetti for dinner, he was about 2, and I turned around and

started to clean up the kitchen. I turned to check on him and his face was dark

blue! I did the infant heimlich on him and out came spaghetti noodles! He

wasn't chewing them and they got stuck in his throat! It was terrifying! But,

yeah, kids can choke on food.

 

Sara

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Car seats...

My understanding is that it is best to keep them rear facing for as long as

possible. Once your child can touch the seat with her feet, it is advised to

turn her around.

I suggest contacting your local police dept. for info.

Lucy

Joann Toth <postfem wrote:Hope all had a great holiday. I have been

really busy

and am just getting a chance to reply.

 

Thanks to all who wrote in about my dd's weight and

height. It was reassuring to hear that others have had

similar situations. Thank you also for the info on

growth charts. Having used them, I get the same

percentile as the doc's office.

 

For the record, our doc has always been supportive of

our vegetarian diet and has never questioned us. In

fact, she is a meat eater (I even saw her in the

grocery once buying hotdogs) and told us she'd prefer

patients drink soy milk because of the hormones in

cow's milk. Our doc seems to think it is

genetic/heredity but doesn't want to rule out illness.

She is cautious but not worried. She has also

complimented us on how attentive we are to the

nutrition of our child. She was impressed that I knew

how much protien and iron she should be getting.

 

I suspect as has been suggested that genetics/heredity

is playing havoc on my dd. We pulled my baby book out

and Quinn and I are almost identical in height and

weight for that age (I was fed meat and drank cow's

milk). In addition, I am still breastfeeding 2 times a

day. So I think my dd is covered when it comes to a

healthy diet. I don't think I am going to worry about

the weight gain. She'll take care of herself.

 

As for the car seat, I can't justify turning it prior

to 20 pounds when I just saw some new car seats that

are designed to be rear facing up to 30 pounds. This

is probably for infants who are overweight and don't

have the head muscle development to be foreward

facing. My doc said that if we were to get pulled

over, the officer wouldn't know unless s/he had a

scale. But I wonder about why the weight requirement

if it is ignored. I know so many people who turn their

car seats before the one year mark or 20 pounds. Just

a thought.

 

Lastly, there are Krispy Kremes here in Ohio too. It

is so sad that there are stores like this. All that

sameness everywhere you go in the US. What happen to

the " mom and pop " stores, the local businesses?

 

Thanks again for all the supportive comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.

 

 

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My 16-month-old eat this stuff (raisins, etc.) without problems, too.

 

Trin

 

> I really wonder about all the hype about 'choking

> hazard' foods.

[Guest guest]

Once your child can touch the seat with her feet, it is advised to turn her

around.

 

 

Nope.

 

Check the car seat directions and leave them rear facing for as long as the

carseat manufacturers say that you can. It is safer for them to hurt their legs

in an accident than to have neck injuries.

 

Sara

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " Brian Shaughnessy "

<ApMama2boys@p...> wrote:

> I really wonder how many kids

> actually are hurt by foods

>

> When I was in high school, I used to babysit a little boy after

school. One day, he was eating spaghetti for dinner, he was about 2,

and I turned around and started to clean up the kitchen. I turned to

check on him and his face was dark blue! I did the infant heimlich on

him and out came spaghetti noodles! He wasn't chewing them and they

got stuck in his throat! It was terrifying! But, yeah, kids can

choke on food.

>

 

My 3.5 y/o did his best to choke on a peanut butter sandwich the other

day. Luckily I was there to clear it out of his mouth. I would

definitely take it seriously.

 

Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg.