Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Re: Infant Cereal I agree with the other posters that 4 months might be pushing it unless your little one is really chomping at the bit (literally!?)... If you're really interested in making your own cereals, check out the Super Baby Food book by Ruth Yaron. Take much of what she says with a grain of salt, but absorb much as well! Also -- infant cereal is just so easy from the box, and you can't really give whole grains until a certain age anyway (I think 8 months or so?) so it's almost not worth making yourself -- plus so much gets wasted in the beginning, and if you put a lot of work into creating cereal, you might get burnt out quickly on the whole babyfood making scenario...(happened to a friend. made one batch, baby rejected, mom was crushed at the rejection and quickly went back to the jars. i learned really quickly that whatever my kiddo didn't like, it wasn't a judgement on me or my cooking...just the food.) Good luck! Phyllis Mom to David (11-15-01) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 > We are about to start our 4 month old on her first solid food. It has been > recommended that we start with rice cereal mixed with breast milk. Jeanne, I've been meaning to reply to your post. Here are some thoughts. In the natural childbirth classes that I teach I include some reccommendations for feeding. These are from my experience with my son who is now seven and vegan. Also from our pediatrician/ family practice doctor. She has a wholistic practice and was a nutritionist before going to medicial school. She totally supports a vegan diet. Saying that here's the food breakdown. When your child takes an intrest in your food, it is then that you should look at starting solids. At about 5- 6 months my son started to grab food off my plate. As far as where to start. Our doctor tells us that grains should wait. She sees tendancy toward constipation at later times when people start with grains, whether rice cereal or other grains. That said, begin with veggies or fruits first and after you have gone through the veggies and fruits, then introduce the grains. Grains take so much time for the body to digest and they are more difficult to process than veggies or fruit. As far as iron supplementation, that is not needed unless there is a problem that you have identified. Please feel free to email me if you have more questions about this appproach. Peace, Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 I havent tried either of these so I dont know how they are but here's two cereal recipes I found: Homemade Rice Cereal (4 mnths and up) 1 cup water on stove and bring to a boil 1/4 cup brown rice in blender for 30 seconds, add to water and cook for 10 minutes. *You can also blend grain with beans. Just adjust the water amount. (I'd wait a few months before trying the bean addition) Baby Oatmeal Recipe (6 mnths and up) Put a cup of water in a saucepan on the stove top to boil. Take 1/4 cup (4 tablespoons) of oatmeal (non-quick cooking) and put it in the blender until it becomes a powder. Stir it into the cup of boiling water, turn the heat down to low, and let cook for 10 minutes. Stir with a whisk or fork to prevent lumping and scorching on the bottom. Let cool thoroughly before feeding to your baby. It will look just like the commercial boxed baby oatmeal mixed with liquid, but much, much more economical! TIP: You can double the recipe and store half of the cooked oatmeal, covered well, for up to two days in the refrigerator. When warming food from the refrigerator for baby, warm ever so slightly on the stove top or for a few seconds in the microwave, just enough to get the chill out. Stir very well to distribute any " heat pockets " or " hot spots " that may burn your baby's mouth. Then test for proper temperature as described above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 > " Jeanne Wishengrad " <jeannewish > Subject:infant cereals > > We are about to start our 4 month old on her first solid food. It has been > recommended that we start with rice cereal mixed with breast milk. We will > then slowly introduce vegetables, fruits and other grains leaving common > allergens (nuts, strawberries, wheat, etc) until after her first birthday. My > question is - has anyone made their own infant cereals? We are going to try > to give our daughter only organic, non GMO foods for as long as possible. We > can get an organic infant rice cereal at the market, but I'd just as soon make > my own if that's possible. Anyone ever done it? Also, iron-fortified cereals > are often recommended (as infants have depleted the stores of iron they are > born with by 3-4 months). Any opinions on whether it's better to have a > home-made non-fortified cereal with a supplement of vitamin drops or a > commercially made iron enriched cereal? Hi Jeanne, I think it's great you're intending to give your dd only organic foods. But I would like to add my voice to the others who've expressed that 4mos is a bit early to start solids. Unless your dd has been diagnosed as slow-growing or failing to thrive, starting foods at 4 months can backfire: you intend to save " common allergens " until she's 1+, but starting foods before 6 months often causes allergic reactions. The baby's gut needs more time (minimum 6 months) to fully develop. A full-grown gut and long-term breastfeeding will be your best protection against allergens. Maybe your dd is showing some of the signs that she's ready for solids, but even they can be misleading. Babies can hold a cup and drink from it (more or less) from about 5 months on - do we take that to mean that the baby wants to wean from the breast? What baby doesn't start grabbing for her parents food as soon as she learns how to grab? Or starts babbling and looking interested in her parents' plates? What she sees is indeed stimulating - fascinating - but not necessarily age-appropriate. Again, LLL has info on this on their website. (Probably www.lalecheleague.org but I haven't checked. A quick search will turn it up.) As for the iron. Many breastfed babies (vegetarian or not) register in the lower-end of the scale (where " acceptable " hemoglobin count is 10 to, I think 14 or 15, many babies are 10.5-11), but that is still acceptable. Only if the count is noticeably lower should supplementation be considered. The hemoglobin scale is itself controversial, as many think the " low " end is set a bit high to promote sales of iron-fortified foods, or to not miss any borderline patients. But controversial scales aside, here are two points where your information may be off. Babies iron stores usually last up to 6 months or more, not 3-4 months, if you were not anemic while pregnant and your baby was born full-term. Check out LLL's website on this. Also, breastmilk provides iron. It's in small doses, but it's much more accessible, much more digestible, than " extrisic " (supplemented) iron. Iron kept in it's " whole food " source, including the whole food of breastmilk, is more available to the body. Okay, so let me add one more thought about iron. I'm speaking of Standard American Diets here ... If iron comes mostly from animal flesh, then why isn't the recommendation to start babies first on ground up meat? After all, that's the highest source of iron and lower on the allergen scale (some would argue that, but again, I'm talking about American standards and typical recommendations.) Why do we start our children with cereal? Which brings me to.... There's no rule that you have to start with cereal. [see quotes below] It's just easy and mild. If you want to prepare your own, boil some oatmeal and then puree it. No seasonings. Mix in breastmilk to a babyfood consistency. Or boil some rice, puree it, and add breastmilk. Use an iron pan to increase the iron content. Feed it to your dd with a bit of citrus juice to enhance the body's absorption. Do you or your dh have many allergens? Allergies are often inheritted. Once your child is able to take a spoon (has lost the tongue thrust reflex), you are not bound to avoid certain foods if you don't have reason to believe that your dd will be allergic. [see quotes, below] Maybe, but who knows what it'll be? After all, *some* people are allergic to rice. *Some* babies react horribly to white potatoes. But both are common first foods. If I'd avoided typical allergens for my ds, what would I have fed him? Beats me. He survived on Farina blended with strawberries, avocadoes pureed with bananas, various nuts pureed with various veggies and fruits.... I have no allergies - his father has a few. 2 good (not great) books are The Vegetarian Mother and Baby Book (Rose Elliot) for recipes, and The New Vegetarian Baby (Sharon Yntema) for nutritional information and a few recipes. Sharon Yntema wrote this, about starting her son on solids at (with hesitation) 6 months: " I am still relying greatly on nursing for Nikolas to get the nutrients he needs. I am introducing foods now, mostly to see what he thinks of the taste. He seems to like everything ... So far he has tasted yogurt, apple juice, orange juice, prune juice, nectarines, oatmeal, rice, bananas, peaches, and avocados. " At 7 months she tried an iron-fortified cereal, even though her pediatrician told her not to worry. her son rejected it outright. At 8 months, she wrote this: " Foods that he has tried so far (I haven't been as careful about allergies as the books say to, partly because I figure I started feeding him pretty late, sot hat alleries are less likely to happen): yogurt, cheese, banana, apple, pear, mago, papaya, avocado, peacehs, figs, prune juice, orange juice, carrots, yellow squash, zucchini, green beans, peas, corn, lima beans, brown rice, millet, barley, oatmeal, tofu, egg yolk, wheat germ, coconut, lentils. " So, that's probably more than you bargained for! ~Doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 I've read that it's a good one to start with, but I'm violently allergic to it as well, so my kids don't get it. But I think it's pretty rare. If I wasn't allergic, I'd have introduced them to it fairly early in the game (which isn't so early, since we delay solids) Sandra > I thought avocado would be great as well. But, in > line at Quizno's a few weeks back there was a woman > there who was deathly allergic to avocado. I have > since met others who are as well. So, I would say > wait till at least a year for that one, too. > Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 .. At about 5- 6 months my son started to grab food off my plate. As far as where to start That isn't always and indicator of when to start solids, my almost seven month old, who isn't on solids yet, will grab for a pen, that doesn't mean that he is ready to write. With solids, the longer you wait, the better. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Brian Shaughnessy <ApMama2boys wrote:. At about 5- 6 months my son started to grab food off my plate. As far as where to start That isn't always and indicator of when to start solids, my almost seven month old, who isn't on solids yet, will grab for a pen, that doesn't mean that he is ready to write. With solids, the longer you wait, the better. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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