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A little over a month ago, I wrote asking about Vegan Prenatal vitamins.

Many of you responded with suggestions for vitamins. Some of you also added

information about a book, Taking Control of Your Fertility by Toni

Weschler. I want to thank you all for your suggestions. The Vegan Essentials

Prenatal vitamin has worked for me. More importantly, my husband and I are

now expecting a baby in November. The book was invaluable. Now, do any of

you have any recommendations for books on Pregnancy? I don't really need

anything that says it is ok to be Veg and Pregnant, but if you know of any

that are informative, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Thanks again!

Michele

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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CONGRATS MICHELE!!!

Michele <slamm12 wrote: More importantly, my husband and I are

now expecting a baby in November.

 

 

 

 

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Michele,

 

Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

expecting " . Although very commercialized, this book was invaluable to me

during my pregnancy. This book takes you from month to month throughout

your pregnancy and gives great guidelines as to what you can expect from

your body as well as information about your growing baby in the womb. There

is a chapter on diet and nutrition, but some vegetarian info is included and

the authors emphasize wholesome, natural foods. Best wishes to you!

 

Robin A.

 

 

 

 

 

> " Michele " <slamm12

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> A big thank you!

>Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:50:03 -0700

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>A little over a month ago, I wrote asking about Vegan Prenatal vitamins.

>Many of you responded with suggestions for vitamins. Some of you also added

>information about a book, Taking Control of Your Fertility by Toni

>Weschler. I want to thank you all for your suggestions. The Vegan

>Essentials

>Prenatal vitamin has worked for me. More importantly, my husband and I are

>now expecting a baby in November. The book was invaluable. Now, do any of

>you have any recommendations for books on Pregnancy? I don't really need

>anything that says it is ok to be Veg and Pregnant, but if you know of any

>that are informative, I would greatly appreciate it.

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>Thanks again!

>Michele

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my husband and I are

> now expecting a baby in November.

+++Congrat's!!! Hope to be in your shoes soon.

We used Toni's book to conceive Dd and we are using it again for #2. (I

think this book should be on every woman's book shelf) I have PCO so that

makes things a little more tricky when ttc.

Mitzi,

Mommy to a beautiful little girl 3/00

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*nod* The Pregnancy Book and The Birth Book by Dr Sears are MUCH better. Also,

another excellent book is The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth by Henci

Goer (my current #1 favorite pregnancy & birth book). And if your partner is

only going to read one book this year, it should be The Birth Partner, by Penny

Simkin.

 

Sandra

 

I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

 

 

 

 

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> I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> expecting " .

 

From my perspective, being a natural childbirth educator and doula, I do not

reccomend this book. It is very mainstream and makes birth a very medicalized

event. It also creates a great deal of fear and anxiety for moms, which is

something I feel we need to move away from in birth.

I reccomend " Special Delivery " by Rahema Baldwin and " Spiritual Midwifery "

Ida Mae Gaskin.

Peace,

Laura

 

 

 

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Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

expecting " .

 

I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

 

Sara

 

 

 

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Brian Shaughnessy wrote:

 

> Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> expecting " .

>

> I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

> medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

 

_What to Expect_ is indeed very medicalized and seems to me to promote a

" don't question your doctor, just do as you're told " attitude. At the

same time, it does provide a lot of reference information for both the

day-to-day challenges of pregnancy and the more rare complications and

side effects. I don't love _What to Expect_, but at the same time I did

find it useful and haven't seen any other pregnancy guides I like more.

Honestly, they all seem a bit crappy in one way or another.

 

I recommend getting several different books with several different

approaches to pregnancy (check them out of the library if you can't afford

to buy them all), cross-reference any questions you have in all of them,

and take everything with a large dose of salt. Pregnancy guides tend to

be very dogmatic, saying either " Your doctor is a god, pregnancy is an

illness, and don't you dare do anything that deviates from the norm if you

love your baby " , or " Pregnancy is totally natural and safe, your doctor is

just itching to slice you open the first chance he gets, and you are a

dupe of the patriarchy, not to mention a wuss, is you even think about

using pain medications and other medical interventions. " I have yet to

find a guide that is comfortable both with low-intervention, " natural "

pregnancies and with more medically supervised pregnancies, even though

both approaches have their benefits and are appropriate for different

women in different circumstances.

 

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three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the

purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each

nonexisted in an entirely different way ...

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> Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> expecting " .

>

> I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

Sara

+++I have to agree with Sara here. I don't care for this book either. I

like " The Birth Book " by Dr. Sears. I also like the " The Baby Book " by

Sears too. I don't agree with everything he says (like vaxing) but overall

I think it's a great book and give it as a gift all the time.

Just my opinion,

Mitzi, who's first book was " What to expect " and ended up with a failed

induction and a c/section.

Mommy to a beautiful little girl 3/00

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of madness, you must not lose it.

---Robin Williams

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> " Brian Shaughnessy " <ApMama2boys

> Re: A big thank you!

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> Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> expecting " .

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> I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

> medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

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> Sara

 

I guess some people could find some of it useful. But I hated this book,

too, for those reasons and that the author is not at all supportive of

breastfeeding (beyond some token, very short, duration).

 

I thought some parts were interesting, like the development of the human

fetus through the months, but I really disliked how the author disempowers

women and medicalizes pregnancy and birth. She's also pro-medicine in other

ways (anti-midwife, meds if you're ill during pregnancy, and

pro-vaccinations) and anti-family bed.

 

My fave books are any by Shiela Kitzinger, Penelope Leach, and the Sears'

(Dr. William Sears and his wife), and Attachment Parenting by Katie Allison

Granju.

 

But my suggestion is, don't spend too much time/money on books about

pregnancy and birth - read about raising children, because you'll spend more

time in your life doing that than you'll spend pregnant.

~Doh

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I recommend " gentle birth choices " and " water births " . Sorry i don;t have the

authors. My 5 day old baby is sleeping in my arms and who knows when i'll get

back here to write. She is so preciuos and her birth was a hugely welcomed

change from my first just over 2 yrs ago. I was so much more prepared and the

best thing was to trust myself and my body. I didn't pick up the what to expect

book this time, because I already knew what to expect, but for the first one I

think it is such a mystery and we want to find out as much as possible. Also

check into birth centers, but the biggest thing that will get you through is

trusting that your body knows what to do, and you have to surrender to all that

you feel is right. It also helped to read and hear positive birth stories that

aren't entrenched in medicine and fear, check out the new magazine and website

" pandora's box " - parenting outside the box, and unassissted childbirth website.

Sorry these references are so vague, but you'll be able to find them easily if

you run a search. Even if you don't go " unassissted " , I found the stories to be

very powerful and reassuring. My waterbirth was beautiful, and I don't think

I'd have changed a thing about it. Absolutely amazing what we are capable of.

Good luck in your search for the right experience for your pregnancy and birth!!

Janeen

 

Dan & Mits <vegibrgr wrote:

 

 

> Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> expecting " .

>

> I have to disagree. This book is horrible! It considers birth to be a

medicalized event and the section on breastfeeding is even worse!

Sara

+++I have to agree with Sara here. I don't care for this book either. I

like " The Birth Book " by Dr. Sears. I also like the " The Baby Book " by

Sears too. I don't agree with everything he says (like vaxing) but overall

I think it's a great book and give it as a gift all the time.

Just my opinion,

Mitzi, who's first book was " What to expect " and ended up with a failed

induction and a c/section.

Mommy to a beautiful little girl 3/00

**************************************

You're only given a little spark

of madness, you must not lose it.

---Robin Williams

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Laura,

 

I wish I had joined this group prior to giving birth to my first and only

child. I totally agree that the book is mainstream, however, I really did

like " What to expect.. " because I was virtually alone in my pregnancy and

the book saved me a lot of phone calls to my dr. If I had to do it over

again, I would have definately gone with a midwife from the beginning, but

as I developed complications toward the end of my pregnancy, I probably

would have delivered at the hospital anyway. I will pass along your

recommendations of books to my expecting friends.

 

Thank you,

Robin A.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> > expecting " .

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>From my perspective, being a natural childbirth educator and doula, I do

>not

>reccomend this book. It is very mainstream and makes birth a very

>medicalized

>event. It also creates a great deal of fear and anxiety for moms, which is

>something I feel we need to move away from in birth.

>I reccomend " Special Delivery " by Rahema Baldwin and " Spiritual Midwifery "

>Ida Mae Gaskin.

>Peace,

>Laura

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I read at least 100 books-almost all of them borrowed from the library- when

I was pregnant. I liked " What to expect... " for the basic info and month by

month progress reports but not the 'tone' of the book. Towards the end of my

pregnancy I found a book that provided the same month by month info on the

baby's growth with a more natural approach called " Pregnancy Pure and

Simple " by, I believe, Traci Hochner?-it has been a while but the cover is

yellow. The thing is, even if I didn't like the tone or disagreed with their

views, I learned a little something from every book-even the 'Girlfriend's

Guide', though I REALLY regretting buying it. If you do go with a midwife,

there is a book called " Heart and Hands " that was *the* book for me.

 

Good Luck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>Michele,

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>Congratulations!!! I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

>expecting " . Although very commercialized, this book was invaluable to me

>during my pregnancy. This book takes you from month to month throughout

>your pregnancy and gives great guidelines as to what you can expect from

>your body as well as information about your growing baby in the womb.

>There

>is a chapter on diet and nutrition, but some vegetarian info is included

>and

>the authors emphasize wholesome, natural foods. Best wishes to you!

>

>Robin A.

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> > A big thank you!

> >Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:50:03 -0700

> >

> >A little over a month ago, I wrote asking about Vegan Prenatal vitamins.

> >Many of you responded with suggestions for vitamins. Some of you also

>added

> >information about a book, Taking Control of Your Fertility by Toni

> >Weschler. I want to thank you all for your suggestions. The Vegan

> >Essentials

> >Prenatal vitamin has worked for me. More importantly, my husband and I

>are

> >now expecting a baby in November. The book was invaluable. Now, do any of

> >you have any recommendations for books on Pregnancy? I don't really need

> >anything that says it is ok to be Veg and Pregnant, but if you know of

>any

> >that are informative, I would greatly appreciate it.

> >

> >Thanks again!

> >Michele

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Although I did look at what to expect a lot while pregnant, I found that The

Pregnancy Book by Sears (or maybe Sears & Sears?) was a much better resource

with just as much detail and some great pictures-

 

-just throwing that out there-

 

 

Robin Allen <woodsprite24 wrote:Laura,

 

I wish I had joined this group prior to giving birth to my first and only

child. I totally agree that the book is mainstream, however, I really did

like " What to expect.. " because I was virtually alone in my pregnancy and

the book saved me a lot of phone calls to my dr. If I had to do it over

again, I would have definately gone with a midwife from the beginning, but

as I developed complications toward the end of my pregnancy, I probably

would have delivered at the hospital anyway. I will pass along your

recommendations of books to my expecting friends.

 

Thank you,

Robin A.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>VAP79

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>Re: A big thank you!

>Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:36:37 EST

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> > I highly recommend " What to expect when you are

> > expecting " .

>

>From my perspective, being a natural childbirth educator and doula, I do

>not

>reccomend this book. It is very mainstream and makes birth a very

>medicalized

>event. It also creates a great deal of fear and anxiety for moms, which is

>something I feel we need to move away from in birth.

>I reccomend " Special Delivery " by Rahema Baldwin and " Spiritual Midwifery "

>Ida Mae Gaskin.

>Peace,

>Laura

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