Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 The POINT is that the Swintons weren't vegan, either, because they fed the child COD LIVER OIL (not a plant). Period. Further, they had NO relationship with any standing local vegetarian society, nor with any " national " group (PCRM, FARM, PETA, EarthSave, VRG, etc. - not even the Black Vegetarian Society, nor VivaVegie, or, for folks of color, any of the Hindu or Jain vegetarian groups. And NYC has more than a handful of great resources for African-American vegetarians. At last count there were AT LEAST three local vegetarian groups in NYC developed ENTIRELY for African American vegetarians (www.NAVS-Online.org). Here are some great connections: AFRO-AMERICAN VEGETARIAN SOCIETY PO Box 46 Colonial Park Station New York NY 10039 Alycia Lee - professional photographer who used to run NY Vegetarians and Vegans (and is an AAV). 128 E 83rd Street New York NY 10028 212-535-9385 Maynard S. Clark Karen Dawn <karendawn wrote:The New York Times April 11, 2003, Friday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section A; Page 24; Column 6; Editorial Desk Truth About Vegan Diet To the Editor: You report (news article, April 5) that a Queens couple who fed their baby daughter a strict vegetarian diet were convicted of nearly starving her to death. As a vegan and a lawyer, I am disturbed that the prosecution of Joseph and Silva Swinton has been billed as a " vegan " case. Lactose intolerance is fairly common, particularly among people not of European descent. Given that and other scientific doubts about the health attributes of dairy products, it was hyperbole aimed at exploiting the jury's ignorance for the prosecutor to focus on disparaging vegan diets. Any parent is negligent for not seeking medical advice regarding a child who is obviously very ill. The Swintons were at fault for failing to seek and apply appropriate nutritional knowledge in caring for their child, not for avoiding dairy and commercial infant formula. Clearly, the Swintons are in need of parental training, not prison terms. PAUL TANIS Washington, April 7, 2003 http://www.nytimes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 I have to comment on this because it hits so close to home. The issue is not that the parents were vegan (they profess so). The issue is whether or not they were neglectful in providing adequate and appropriate nutrition for their child. It appears that they were neglectful and I would venture to say it had nothing to do with their dietary choices - an assumption on my part to be sure. I have just been through an incident with our state Department of Children and Families where they were investigating my husband and I for raising our children vegan. One of my daughters weighs 29 pounds at 6 years old. They were extremely concerned that we were not feeding them properly and tried to make us start feeding them a " well-rounded, healthy " diet including animal products. You must understand that my children are quintuplets and that the daughter they were using to try to make me feed them an omnivorous diet was born at 1 pound 4 ounces. For her to be 29 pounds is fantastic. For her to be here at all to debate over her diet is absolutely amazing. Fortunately, I was able to prove that I am well-educated on the nutritional needs of children and what foods in a vegan diet provide the nutrition children need. I also was able to show that my children are following their own growth curve wonderfully. They had their six year check up two weeks after all this began. Two gained 5 1/2 pounds in 8 months (we were late with the 5 year check up), one gained 6 1/2 pounds, and the other two gained 3 pounds. The average yearly weight gain for children this age is 2- 4 pounds. They all grew 3 inches, well within the accepted range. This was the second time we were investigated regarding feeding a vegan diet to our kids. Both times have turned out well as my children are incredibly healthy and vibrant. This time they had no choice but to drop everything since the medical evidence proved them wrong. It is something I am told happens more than we know about. It is something that happens because people are ignorant about different life styles and beliefs and are not accepting when they are made aware of them. BUT if a vegan/vegetarian child is fed properly, they grow just as well as non-vegan/vegetarian children AND are definitely more healthy. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid now, but I think it does behoove us to keep careful track of our children's growth curves (through a doc's office to make it official - this is mostly what saved us) and to make it a practice of keeping well-informed regarding vegan/vegetarian nutrition. God's Peace, Gayle - mom to Naomi, Ethan, Rebekah, Seth, and Arielle - 3/31/97 " Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong ... for sometime in your life you will have been all of these. " Author Unknown - Maynard S. Clark Veg-African-American (AT) Groups (DOT) com ; VegNYC Cc: Natalie Castellanos Friday, April 11, 2003 8:10 PM NY Times letter on Swinton baby starving case The POINT is that the Swintons weren't vegan, either, because they fed the child COD LIVER OIL (not a plant). Period. Further, they had NO relationship with any standing local vegetarian society, nor with any " national " group (PCRM, FARM, PETA, EarthSave, VRG, etc. - not even the Black Vegetarian Society, nor VivaVegie, or, for folks of color, any of the Hindu or Jain vegetarian groups. And NYC has more than a handful of great resources for African-American vegetarians. At last count there were AT LEAST three local vegetarian groups in NYC developed ENTIRELY for African American vegetarians (www.NAVS-Online.org). Here are some great connections: AFRO-AMERICAN VEGETARIAN SOCIETY PO Box 46 Colonial Park Station New York NY 10039 Alycia Lee - professional photographer who used to run NY Vegetarians and Vegans (and is an AAV). 128 E 83rd Street New York NY 10028 212-535-9385 Maynard S. Clark Karen Dawn <karendawn wrote:The New York Times April 11, 2003, Friday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section A; Page 24; Column 6; Editorial Desk Truth About Vegan Diet To the Editor: You report (news article, April 5) that a Queens couple who fed their baby daughter a strict vegetarian diet were convicted of nearly starving her to death. As a vegan and a lawyer, I am disturbed that the prosecution of Joseph and Silva Swinton has been billed as a " vegan " case. Lactose intolerance is fairly common, particularly among people not of European descent. Given that and other scientific doubts about the health attributes of dairy products, it was hyperbole aimed at exploiting the jury's ignorance for the prosecutor to focus on disparaging vegan diets. Any parent is negligent for not seeking medical advice regarding a child who is obviously very ill. The Swintons were at fault for failing to seek and apply appropriate nutritional knowledge in caring for their child, not for avoiding dairy and commercial infant formula. Clearly, the Swintons are in need of parental training, not prison terms. PAUL TANIS Washington, April 7, 2003 http://www.nytimes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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