This list and Kundalini activation and awakening

[Guest guest]

I began this list in the hopes of having a forum that would discuss and offer

help and service with people having a Kundalini experience. Without ego or

constraint in the involvement of people as long as they were actually wanting or

experiencing a Kundalini event. I also wanted to separate those who want the

Kundalini so much that they will do almost anything to achieve it, even in

creating a fantasy for it to have occurred. There are many in this category.

 

With so much of the literature available that cannot – in the English

language – give adequate and accurate information about this state of being it

is not surprising that so many in desire of the Kundalini will go to whatever

extremes are easily available for its reception and or activation. This is a

good thing in that it shows a desire for a completion of the divine circuit and

if that person makes it here to this list that completion can be made either by

just continuously reading the list or by active Shaktipat by myself or other

individuals or both. On the other hand it can create problems with the veracity

of the event in that claims of activation and awakening can be comparable to a

mystical experience or an out of body experience or a near death experience,

encounter with ET or discarnate entity’s. Some of which will precede activation

and most that will not.

 

For those that experience activation from the top down there are less

definitive symptoms that will occur then in those that activate bottom up. When

the crown is activated without the other chakras coming into an activated state,

entity interaction and confusion of reality can result. In the top down

activation a glimpse of the grandeur that awaits is given, yet this should be

viewed, imho, as a place of and a condition of completion but not without the

visceral and tangible aspects of the other energy centers balancing their way

towards complete awakening. This requires more opening to the Kundalini allowing

the energy to activate and stimulate the other nerve plexus centers along the

spine to open and come into the flow. More work in other words.

 

A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity of the “All that

Is” but includes the activations and unfolding of the blockages we as people in

this society can accrue. They are different for all but many have very similar

characteristics. Heat and cold and lethargy and hyperactivity, seeing brilliant

lights all the time or the seeing of and sensing of discarnate people. Hearing

bells and buzzings, chirpings, and smelling roses and incense and other of the

familiar phenomena of activation from the bottom up.

 

Both sets of activations can be brought into the complete unfolding but care

needs to be given in the top down scenario in that the direction of energetic

activation is still directed from a bottom up vantage point, using the glimpse

of unity in the open crown as a target to a finished result not as a sign of

completion. All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded

before an awakening can occur. The distinction between the two being that very

balance that is incurred with open flow as opposed to constricted or blocked

flow.

 

Kundalini energy is typically not subtle or soft. It has a direct and tangible

effect upon the sensorial centers of the body. Yet it also contains the

hyper-phased characteristics that medical science cannot as yet measure. Heat

that isn’t registering on a thermometer for example or severe temperature loss

or visual anomalies and telepathic response for examples.

 

One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power with unavoidable

surrender to this force. It is not a ride on a peacock feather unless the

peacock is in a hurricane. This is at the beginning and then it pulls back a

certain degree and allows for the infusion and realignments that are necessary

for an unobstructed flow. All this depending on the persons availability and

knowledge of the process, which is where this list comes into service.

 

Just some observations for you to read or not. –

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Chris,

 

2days now I am expreiencing crown chakra activities- such es

heat,tingling,pushing,burning,pressure etc..(the whole head)

Especially yesterday was even more intense I have tried to

balance and ground but it was difficult to do what so ever...the

time was so slow...I couldn't move...However I decided to go for a

walk along the beach and on the way to there I felt a push in my

crown and the *fontanela* started *getting* wider and wider and more

pushing and then hot, like coming from above...after that I felt

release Today has been better

I thought to share this as someone would have a comment on this

 

Love and Light

A.

 

, chrism

<> wrote:

>

>

>

> I began this list in the hopes of having a forum that would

discuss and offer help and service with people having a Kundalini

experience. Without ego or constraint in the involvement of people

as long as they were actually wanting or experiencing a Kundalini

event. I also wanted to separate those who want the Kundalini so

much that they will do almost anything to achieve it, even in

creating a fantasy for it to have occurred. There are many in this

category.

>

> With so much of the literature available that cannot – in the

English language – give adequate and accurate information about this

state of being it is not surprising that so many in desire of the

Kundalini will go to whatever extremes are easily available for its

reception and or activation. This is a good thing in that it shows a

desire for a completion of the divine circuit and if that person

makes it here to this list that completion can be made either by

just continuously reading the list or by active Shaktipat by myself

or other individuals or both. On the other hand it can create

problems with the veracity of the event in that claims of activation

and awakening can be comparable to a mystical experience or an out

of body experience or a near death experience, encounter with ET or

discarnate entity's. Some of which will precede activation and most

that will not.

>

> For those that experience activation from the top down there are

less definitive symptoms that will occur then in those that activate

bottom up. When the crown is activated without the other chakras

coming into an activated state, entity interaction and confusion of

reality can result. In the top down activation a glimpse of the

grandeur that awaits is given, yet this should be viewed, imho, as a

place of and a condition of completion but not without the visceral

and tangible aspects of the other energy centers balancing their way

towards complete awakening. This requires more opening to the

Kundalini allowing the energy to activate and stimulate the other

nerve plexus centers along the spine to open and come into the flow.

More work in other words.

>

> A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity of

the " All that Is " but includes the activations and unfolding of the

blockages we as people in this society can accrue. They are

different for all but many have very similar characteristics. Heat

and cold and lethargy and hyperactivity, seeing brilliant lights all

the time or the seeing of and sensing of discarnate people. Hearing

bells and buzzings, chirpings, and smelling roses and incense and

other of the familiar phenomena of activation from the bottom up.

>

> Both sets of activations can be brought into the complete

unfolding but care needs to be given in the top down scenario in

that the direction of energetic activation is still directed from a

bottom up vantage point, using the glimpse of unity in the open

crown as a target to a finished result not as a sign of completion.

All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded

before an awakening can occur. The distinction between the two being

that very balance that is incurred with open flow as opposed to

constricted or blocked flow.

>

> Kundalini energy is typically not subtle or soft. It has a

direct and tangible effect upon the sensorial centers of the body.

Yet it also contains the hyper-phased characteristics that medical

science cannot as yet measure. Heat that isn't registering on a

thermometer for example or severe temperature loss or visual

anomalies and telepathic response for examples.

>

> One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power

with unavoidable surrender to this force. It is not a ride on a

peacock feather unless the peacock is in a hurricane. This is at the

beginning and then it pulls back a certain degree and allows for the

infusion and realignments that are necessary for an unobstructed

flow. All this depending on the persons availability and knowledge

of the process, which is where this list comes into service.

>

> Just some observations for you to read or not. – blessings -

chrism

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh,I forgot to mention I drank tons of water and still doing )

 

, " sarceto "

<sarceto wrote:

>

> Dear Chris,

>

> 2days now I am expreiencing crown chakra activities- such es

> heat,tingling,pushing,burning,pressure etc..(the whole head)

> Especially yesterday was even more intense I have tried to

> balance and ground but it was difficult to do what so ever...the

> time was so slow...I couldn't move...However I decided to go for a

> walk along the beach and on the way to there I felt a push in my

> crown and the *fontanela* started *getting* wider and wider and

more

> pushing and then hot, like coming from above...after that I felt

> release Today has been better

> I thought to share this as someone would have a comment on this

>

> Love and Light

> A.

>

> , chrism

> <@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > I began this list in the hopes of having a forum that would

> discuss and offer help and service with people having a Kundalini

> experience. Without ego or constraint in the involvement of people

> as long as they were actually wanting or experiencing a Kundalini

> event. I also wanted to separate those who want the Kundalini so

> much that they will do almost anything to achieve it, even in

> creating a fantasy for it to have occurred. There are many in this

> category.

> >

> > With so much of the literature available that cannot – in the

> English language – give adequate and accurate information about

this

> state of being it is not surprising that so many in desire of the

> Kundalini will go to whatever extremes are easily available for

its

> reception and or activation. This is a good thing in that it shows

a

> desire for a completion of the divine circuit and if that person

> makes it here to this list that completion can be made either by

> just continuously reading the list or by active Shaktipat by

myself

> or other individuals or both. On the other hand it can create

> problems with the veracity of the event in that claims of

activation

> and awakening can be comparable to a mystical experience or an out

> of body experience or a near death experience, encounter with ET

or

> discarnate entity's. Some of which will precede activation and

most

> that will not.

> >

> > For those that experience activation from the top down there

are

> less definitive symptoms that will occur then in those that

activate

> bottom up. When the crown is activated without the other chakras

> coming into an activated state, entity interaction and confusion

of

> reality can result. In the top down activation a glimpse of the

> grandeur that awaits is given, yet this should be viewed, imho, as

a

> place of and a condition of completion but not without the

visceral

> and tangible aspects of the other energy centers balancing their

way

> towards complete awakening. This requires more opening to the

> Kundalini allowing the energy to activate and stimulate the other

> nerve plexus centers along the spine to open and come into the

flow.

> More work in other words.

> >

> > A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity of

> the " All that Is " but includes the activations and unfolding of

the

> blockages we as people in this society can accrue. They are

> different for all but many have very similar characteristics. Heat

> and cold and lethargy and hyperactivity, seeing brilliant lights

all

> the time or the seeing of and sensing of discarnate people.

Hearing

> bells and buzzings, chirpings, and smelling roses and incense and

> other of the familiar phenomena of activation from the bottom up.

> >

> > Both sets of activations can be brought into the complete

> unfolding but care needs to be given in the top down scenario in

> that the direction of energetic activation is still directed from

a

> bottom up vantage point, using the glimpse of unity in the open

> crown as a target to a finished result not as a sign of

completion.

> All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded

> before an awakening can occur. The distinction between the two

being

> that very balance that is incurred with open flow as opposed to

> constricted or blocked flow.

> >

> > Kundalini energy is typically not subtle or soft. It has a

> direct and tangible effect upon the sensorial centers of the body.

> Yet it also contains the hyper-phased characteristics that medical

> science cannot as yet measure. Heat that isn't registering on a

> thermometer for example or severe temperature loss or visual

> anomalies and telepathic response for examples.

> >

> > One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power

> with unavoidable surrender to this force. It is not a ride on a

> peacock feather unless the peacock is in a hurricane. This is at

the

> beginning and then it pulls back a certain degree and allows for

the

> infusion and realignments that are necessary for an unobstructed

> flow. All this depending on the persons availability and knowledge

> of the process, which is where this list comes into service.

> >

> > Just some observations for you to read or not. – blessings -

> chrism

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Angel,

I am not comfortable with your heat sensations being in your

seventh - crown. Possibility of problems in that the crown nadis - energy points

- are far more delicate and susceptible to being burned by the lower

expressions. So my advice to you would be to close your crown for the time

being, and begin to exercise the openings of your flow from base to heart to

begin with. Sit in meditation and bring your awareness to your heart and

tailbone, allow the energy in the base to only extend to the heart but before it

does, have it go to the 2nd and 3rd and then to the heart. Lets begin to balance

that flow of yours. Have you become comfortable with the Reiki limitations or

are you going to receive an attunement for this?

 

Good that your drinking lots of water keep that going and when you walk on the

beach go barefoot and feel the feet connect to the earth forces. Keep your

tongue down, that's right, down, and do NOT connect the cranial circuit. - keep

us posted -

 

sarceto <sarceto wrote:

Oh,I forgot to mention I drank tons of water and still doing )

 

, " sarceto "

<sarceto wrote:

>

> Dear Chris,

>

> 2days now I am expreiencing crown chakra activities- such es

> heat,tingling,pushing,burning,pressure etc..(the whole head)

> Especially yesterday was even more intense I have tried to

> balance and ground but it was difficult to do what so ever...the

> time was so slow...I couldn't move...However I decided to go for a

> walk along the beach and on the way to there I felt a push in my

> crown and the *fontanela* started *getting* wider and wider and

more

> pushing and then hot, like coming from above...after that I felt

> release Today has been better

> I thought to share this as someone would have a comment on this

>

> Love and Light

> A.

>

> , chrism

> <@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > I began this list in the hopes of having a forum that would

> discuss and offer help and service with people having a Kundalini

> experience. Without ego or constraint in the involvement of people

> as long as they were actually wanting or experiencing a Kundalini

> event. I also wanted to separate those who want the Kundalini so

> much that they will do almost anything to achieve it, even in

> creating a fantasy for it to have occurred. There are many in this

> category.

> >

> > With so much of the literature available that cannot – in the

> English language – give adequate and accurate information about

this

> state of being it is not surprising that so many in desire of the

> Kundalini will go to whatever extremes are easily available for

its

> reception and or activation. This is a good thing in that it shows

a

> desire for a completion of the divine circuit and if that person

> makes it here to this list that completion can be made either by

> just continuously reading the list or by active Shaktipat by

myself

> or other individuals or both. On the other hand it can create

> problems with the veracity of the event in that claims of

activation

> and awakening can be comparable to a mystical experience or an out

> of body experience or a near death experience, encounter with ET

or

> discarnate entity's. Some of which will precede activation and

most

> that will not.

> >

> > For those that experience activation from the top down there

are

> less definitive symptoms that will occur then in those that

activate

> bottom up. When the crown is activated without the other chakras

> coming into an activated state, entity interaction and confusion

of

> reality can result. In the top down activation a glimpse of the

> grandeur that awaits is given, yet this should be viewed, imho, as

a

> place of and a condition of completion but not without the

visceral

> and tangible aspects of the other energy centers balancing their

way

> towards complete awakening. This requires more opening to the

> Kundalini allowing the energy to activate and stimulate the other

> nerve plexus centers along the spine to open and come into the

flow.

> More work in other words.

> >

> > A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity of

> the " All that Is " but includes the activations and unfolding of

the

> blockages we as people in this society can accrue. They are

> different for all but many have very similar characteristics. Heat

> and cold and lethargy and hyperactivity, seeing brilliant lights

all

> the time or the seeing of and sensing of discarnate people.

Hearing

> bells and buzzings, chirpings, and smelling roses and incense and

> other of the familiar phenomena of activation from the bottom up.

> >

> > Both sets of activations can be brought into the complete

> unfolding but care needs to be given in the top down scenario in

> that the direction of energetic activation is still directed from

a

> bottom up vantage point, using the glimpse of unity in the open

> crown as a target to a finished result not as a sign of

completion.

> All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded

> before an awakening can occur. The distinction between the two

being

> that very balance that is incurred with open flow as opposed to

> constricted or blocked flow.

> >

> > Kundalini energy is typically not subtle or soft. It has a

> direct and tangible effect upon the sensorial centers of the body.

> Yet it also contains the hyper-phased characteristics that medical

> science cannot as yet measure. Heat that isn't registering on a

> thermometer for example or severe temperature loss or visual

> anomalies and telepathic response for examples.

> >

> > One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power

> with unavoidable surrender to this force. It is not a ride on a

> peacock feather unless the peacock is in a hurricane. This is at

the

> beginning and then it pulls back a certain degree and allows for

the

> infusion and realignments that are necessary for an unobstructed

> flow. All this depending on the persons availability and knowledge

> of the process, which is where this list comes into service.

> >

> > Just some observations for you to read or not. – blessings -

> chrism

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chris,

 

Thanks for the info and your thoughts.

I felt the same so I am backing off any meditations/energy work at

the moment

Normally I feel the flow coming from the base upwards,not sure why

this time has happen in this way. I feel more balanced today,thank

you and I will *lock* the energy in the root for the time being.

I do healings in general,please dont take me wrong, and it is

related with my profession being a Massage Therapist too.

I am not to receive any attunements for now....not in that state of

mind...I wouldnt )

 

Thanks for your concerns.

 

Namste

A.

 

 

, chrism

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Angel,

> I am not comfortable with your heat sensations

being in your seventh - crown. Possibility of problems in that the

crown nadis - energy points - are far more delicate and susceptible

to being burned by the lower expressions. So my advice to you would

be to close your crown for the time being, and begin to exercise the

openings of your flow from base to heart to begin with. Sit in

meditation and bring your awareness to your heart and tailbone,

allow the energy in the base to only extend to the heart but before

it does, have it go to the 2nd and 3rd and then to the heart. Lets

begin to balance that flow of yours. Have you become comfortable

with the Reiki limitations or are you going to receive an attunement

for this?

>

> Good that your drinking lots of water keep that going and when

you walk on the beach go barefoot and feel the feet connect to the

earth forces. Keep your tongue down, that's right, down, and do NOT

connect the cranial circuit. - keep us posted -

>

> sarceto <sarceto wrote:

> Oh,I forgot to mention I drank tons of water and still doing )

>

> , " sarceto "

> <sarceto@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chris,

> >

> > 2days now I am expreiencing crown chakra activities- such es

> > heat,tingling,pushing,burning,pressure etc..(the whole head)

> > Especially yesterday was even more intense I have tried to

> > balance and ground but it was difficult to do what so ever...the

> > time was so slow...I couldn't move...However I decided to go for

a

> > walk along the beach and on the way to there I felt a push in my

> > crown and the *fontanela* started *getting* wider and wider and

> more

> > pushing and then hot, like coming from above...after that I felt

> > release Today has been better

> > I thought to share this as someone would have a comment on

this

> >

> > Love and Light

> > A.

> >

> > , chrism

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I began this list in the hopes of having a forum that would

> > discuss and offer help and service with people having a

Kundalini

> > experience. Without ego or constraint in the involvement of

people

> > as long as they were actually wanting or experiencing a

Kundalini

> > event. I also wanted to separate those who want the Kundalini so

> > much that they will do almost anything to achieve it, even in

> > creating a fantasy for it to have occurred. There are many in

this

> > category.

> > >

> > > With so much of the literature available that cannot – in

the

> > English language – give adequate and accurate information about

> this

> > state of being it is not surprising that so many in desire of

the

> > Kundalini will go to whatever extremes are easily available for

> its

> > reception and or activation. This is a good thing in that it

shows

> a

> > desire for a completion of the divine circuit and if that person

> > makes it here to this list that completion can be made either by

> > just continuously reading the list or by active Shaktipat by

> myself

> > or other individuals or both. On the other hand it can create

> > problems with the veracity of the event in that claims of

> activation

> > and awakening can be comparable to a mystical experience or an

out

> > of body experience or a near death experience, encounter with

ET

> or

> > discarnate entity's. Some of which will precede activation and

> most

> > that will not.

> > >

> > > For those that experience activation from the top down there

> are

> > less definitive symptoms that will occur then in those that

> activate

> > bottom up. When the crown is activated without the other chakras

> > coming into an activated state, entity interaction and confusion

> of

> > reality can result. In the top down activation a glimpse of the

> > grandeur that awaits is given, yet this should be viewed, imho,

as

> a

> > place of and a condition of completion but not without the

> visceral

> > and tangible aspects of the other energy centers balancing their

> way

> > towards complete awakening. This requires more opening to the

> > Kundalini allowing the energy to activate and stimulate the

other

> > nerve plexus centers along the spine to open and come into the

> flow.

> > More work in other words.

> > >

> > > A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity

of

> > the " All that Is " but includes the activations and unfolding of

> the

> > blockages we as people in this society can accrue. They are

> > different for all but many have very similar characteristics.

Heat

> > and cold and lethargy and hyperactivity, seeing brilliant lights

> all

> > the time or the seeing of and sensing of discarnate people.

> Hearing

> > bells and buzzings, chirpings, and smelling roses and incense

and

> > other of the familiar phenomena of activation from the bottom

up.

> > >

> > > Both sets of activations can be brought into the complete

> > unfolding but care needs to be given in the top down scenario in

> > that the direction of energetic activation is still directed

from

> a

> > bottom up vantage point, using the glimpse of unity in the open

> > crown as a target to a finished result not as a sign of

> completion.

> > All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded

> > before an awakening can occur. The distinction between the two

> being

> > that very balance that is incurred with open flow as opposed to

> > constricted or blocked flow.

> > >

> > > Kundalini energy is typically not subtle or soft. It has a

> > direct and tangible effect upon the sensorial centers of the

body.

> > Yet it also contains the hyper-phased characteristics that

medical

> > science cannot as yet measure. Heat that isn't registering on a

> > thermometer for example or severe temperature loss or visual

> > anomalies and telepathic response for examples.

> > >

> > > One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power

> > with unavoidable surrender to this force. It is not a ride on a

> > peacock feather unless the peacock is in a hurricane. This is at

> the

> > beginning and then it pulls back a certain degree and allows for

> the

> > infusion and realignments that are necessary for an unobstructed

> > flow. All this depending on the persons availability and

knowledge

> > of the process, which is where this list comes into service.

> > >

> > > Just some observations for you to read or not. – blessings -

 

> > chrism

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Chris Wrote:

On the other hand it can create problems with the veracity of the event in that

claims of

activation and awakening can be comparable to a mystical experience or an out of

body

experience or a near death experience, encounter with ET or discarnate

entity's. Some of

which will precede activation and most that will not.

 

I am glad you made this point. For the last three years, I have belieived my

experiences: kriyas, chakra orgasms, speaking in tongues, heat/cold, smelling

roses, emotional turmoil, hearing flutes/buzzing, and 'seeing'/ hearing entities

WERE the kundalini awakening. I am recognizing with your help Chris, that these

aspects are the precursors to the final spinal sweep. It is my energy system

preparing for the opening to take place in a permenant state.

 

Chris wrote:

A bottom up activation gives the same glimpse of the unity of the " All that Is "

but includes

the activations and unfolding of the blockages we as people in this society can

accrue.

They are different for all but many have very similar characteristics.

 

As the kundalini " unfolds " in me, I am more and more aware of the layers of my

psychological processes. Each layer is like a spiral to the next deeper aspect

that

wants to be cleared. I for one am glad it has taken me so long, and will allow

it to

take as long as is needed. This not to say that I don't want the ascention, Yes

I do!

But, I am realizing that if I'm going to strap my ass to a rocket, I had better

be

prepared for the velocity.

 

Chris wrote:

All plexus - chakras – need to be infused and flowing unimpeded before an

awakening

can occur. The distinction between the two being that very balance that is

incurred with

open flow as opposed to constricted or blocked flow.

 

Just the other day, after doing some intense pelvic gyrations, the first and

the fifth Tibetan, and worked on my sexual center, I did have an experience

of a " disincarnate " entity coming out of my body. For the last two years I have

spoken in a Tibetan? tongue and now realize it was because this entity was

embedded in my field. I was able to recognize her and release her to my

diety with Love. It is imperative that the chakras are cleared and open

for the kundalini to be a " relatively " smooth awakening. I take this very

seriously.

An old Japanese curse to one's enemy:

" May you be cleared of all of your karma -- IN ONE DAY! "

 

Chris wrote:

One should expect to be grasped by a force of intense power with unavoidable

surrender

to this force. It is not a ride on a peacock feather unless the peacock is in a

hurricane.

 

Early on in my kundalini experiences I would ask for the " cosmic explosion " .

Now, with Chrism's help and the list, I am much more aware of what that

entails. Some of you lurkers and others on the list are wise to watch and see.

 

The fact that we are all here and working to clear the path is testiment

that we are probably ready for the final push in this lifetime, but SAFELY.

Don't open the lid too soon, as Rumi says,

 

A CHICKPEA TO COOK

 

A chickpea leaps almost over the rim of the pot where it is being boiled

 

" Why are you doing this to me " ?

 

The cook knocks him down with the ladle

 

" Don't you try to jump out "

" You think I am torturing you "

" I am giving you flavor so you can mix with the spices and rice "

" And be the lovely vitality of a human being "

" Remember when you drank from the garden " ? " That was for this "

 

Grace first, sexual pleasure, then -- A boiling new Life begins!

 

from the Essential Rumi