Reiki, the crown, and the K--about a million questions

[Guest guest]

This is a topic I am very, very interested in, and I have a couple of

questions for discussion:

 

My first full-fledged K surge two years ago followed a reiki

attunement. However, it didn't feel like a top-down surge. Rather, it

was a lateral move--I literally saw the prana sparks around my body

converge into the sushumna and give way to the K flow. Later on, I

learned that a kundalini jolt can also be brought about by the ida and

the pingala merging in the sushumna. So, there is a third possible

scenario, yes? And not all reiki-attuned people necessarily get their

brain fried when they have their first K surge, right?

 

I am asking because my former reiki master wants to receive shaktipat.

Even though he involuntarily caused my first K surge, he is not K

active himself. I just want to know how safe it is going to be for him.

 

Can reiki people balance their energetic system by working their lower

chakras?

 

Also, something else that I noticed is that the crown chakra (and the

8th chakra, too?) exerts an incredible attraction on the K. Working

those areas seems to be very effective at pulling up the K from the

tailbone and even the feet. I have seen that in myself and others.

This wouldn't be a top-down K surge, though, would it? I reckon that

this power of the 7th chakra is why, in yoga, people are told to leave

the crown alone when they start meditating. I suspect that all the

entity problems I had when I was younger were due to my tampering with

my crown chakra in my do-it-yourself kundalini-awakening efforts. Is

that correct?

 

What does a top-down k surge feel like? Is it as fierce as the

bottom-up one? I have often felt I was receiving energies from above

during meditation (usually unconditional love, but also bliss and

light). This put me in an ecstatic trance state, but did not shake me

like the crown-induced bottom up (or lateral) K surges I occasionally

get. Would that bliss pouring in from above be a top-down surge, or

just a manifestation of Shiva happily merging with Shakti?

 

Cheers

 

Sel

[Guest guest]

Dear Selena,

 

Interesting post. I am not sure what you call *Reiki people*

When I got my first attunement (in 2002) it was Kundalini Reiki and

it started from bottom-upwards( Kundalini Reiki only *awakens* the

Kundalini fire not the core,nothing more ).

I want to share what has happened to me couple of months back...

During meditations I felt the energy coming down my crown (I didn't

do anything intentially) and it was pleasant but strong...was just

happening on its own.I could feel *phisically* my cranium stretching

and that made me open my mouth automatically to let the energy come

down easily.When the energy reached base chakra then the heat

started climing up and expanding my body...a lot of sweating and hot

sensations were happening...and then it stopped on its own.This

happened on its own,not that strong the first time but the second

and 3rd time I was advised to start alternate breathing left/right

nostril and vice versa to balance Ida and Pingala and was good

because this did balance me and let me get the energy going.

Not sure if that helps,just thought to share

 

Namaste

A.

 

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> This is a topic I am very, very interested in, and I have a couple

of

> questions for discussion:

>

> My first full-fledged K surge two years ago followed a reiki

> attunement. However, it didn't feel like a top-down surge. Rather,

it

> was a lateral move--I literally saw the prana sparks around my body

> converge into the sushumna and give way to the K flow. Later on, I

> learned that a kundalini jolt can also be brought about by the ida

and

> the pingala merging in the sushumna. So, there is a third possible

> scenario, yes? And not all reiki-attuned people necessarily get

their

> brain fried when they have their first K surge, right?

>

> I am asking because my former reiki master wants to receive

shaktipat.

> Even though he involuntarily caused my first K surge, he is not K

> active himself. I just want to know how safe it is going to be for

him.

>

> Can reiki people balance their energetic system by working their

lower

> chakras?

>

> Also, something else that I noticed is that the crown chakra (and

the

> 8th chakra, too?) exerts an incredible attraction on the K. Working

> those areas seems to be very effective at pulling up the K from the

> tailbone and even the feet. I have seen that in myself and others.

> This wouldn't be a top-down K surge, though, would it? I reckon

that

> this power of the 7th chakra is why, in yoga, people are told to

leave

> the crown alone when they start meditating. I suspect that all the

> entity problems I had when I was younger were due to my tampering

with

> my crown chakra in my do-it-yourself kundalini-awakening efforts.

Is

> that correct?

>

> What does a top-down k surge feel like? Is it as fierce as the

> bottom-up one? I have often felt I was receiving energies from

above

> during meditation (usually unconditional love, but also bliss and

> light). This put me in an ecstatic trance state, but did not shake

me

> like the crown-induced bottom up (or lateral) K surges I

occasionally

> get. Would that bliss pouring in from above be a top-down surge, or

> just a manifestation of Shiva happily merging with Shakti?

>

> Cheers

>

> Sel

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sarceto. By " reiki people " I mean people who have received and

given reiki attunements. Hey, I am one of 'em reiki people too ;-)

 

Don't know if you or Chris will agree with me, but I have a hunch that

reiki attunements are partial shaktipats that activate Shiva energies

and pre-K energies. If this is true, " reiki " is old wine in new

bottles. What is truly new in the system invented by Mr. Usui is that

the attunement selects certain chakras and nadis while leaving out

others, thus making the process of channeling energy more manageable

for most people (not everyone can handle a full-fledged kundalini

activation, right?). This would also explain why sometimes attunements

cause an unintended K surge--the energies at work are fundamentally

the same, and they will do their own thing, especially if the

recipient is ready.

 

After all, healing through the laying-on of hands is one of the

siddhis that true yogis ordinarily achieve. The difference is that, in

yoga, siddhis are regarded as a potential impediment to true spiritual

awakening (too much ego involved!). In reiki, obtaining the siddhi of

healing becomes the only pursuit, and awakening is not an explicit

goal at all--if at all, it's a side effect that may or may not kick in.

 

Thanks for bearing with me. I am kinda thinking out loud here, trying

to make sense of things.

 

Sel

 

 

, " sarceto "

<sarceto wrote:

>

> Dear Selena,

>

> Interesting post. I am not sure what you call *Reiki people*

> When I got my first attunement (in 2002) it was Kundalini Reiki and

> it started from bottom-upwards( Kundalini Reiki only *awakens* the

> Kundalini fire not the core,nothing more ).

> I want to share what has happened to me couple of months back...

> During meditations I felt the energy coming down my crown (I didn't

> do anything intentially) and it was pleasant but strong...was just

> happening on its own.I could feel *phisically* my cranium stretching

> and that made me open my mouth automatically to let the energy come

> down easily.When the energy reached base chakra then the heat

> started climing up and expanding my body...a lot of sweating and hot

> sensations were happening...and then it stopped on its own.This

> happened on its own,not that strong the first time but the second

> and 3rd time I was advised to start alternate breathing left/right

> nostril and vice versa to balance Ida and Pingala and was good

> because this did balance me and let me get the energy going.

> Not sure if that helps,just thought to share

>

> Namaste

> A.

>

> , " selena230 "

> <selena230@> wrote:

> >

> > This is a topic I am very, very interested in, and I have a couple

> of

> > questions for discussion:

> >

> > My first full-fledged K surge two years ago followed a reiki

> > attunement. However, it didn't feel like a top-down surge. Rather,

> it

> > was a lateral move--I literally saw the prana sparks around my body

> > converge into the sushumna and give way to the K flow. Later on, I

> > learned that a kundalini jolt can also be brought about by the ida

> and

> > the pingala merging in the sushumna. So, there is a third possible

> > scenario, yes? And not all reiki-attuned people necessarily get

> their

> > brain fried when they have their first K surge, right?

> >

> > I am asking because my former reiki master wants to receive

> shaktipat.

> > Even though he involuntarily caused my first K surge, he is not K

> > active himself. I just want to know how safe it is going to be for

> him.

> >

> > Can reiki people balance their energetic system by working their

> lower

> > chakras?

> >

> > Also, something else that I noticed is that the crown chakra (and

> the

> > 8th chakra, too?) exerts an incredible attraction on the K. Working

> > those areas seems to be very effective at pulling up the K from the

> > tailbone and even the feet. I have seen that in myself and others.

> > This wouldn't be a top-down K surge, though, would it? I reckon

> that

> > this power of the 7th chakra is why, in yoga, people are told to

> leave

> > the crown alone when they start meditating. I suspect that all the

> > entity problems I had when I was younger were due to my tampering

> with

> > my crown chakra in my do-it-yourself kundalini-awakening efforts.

> Is

> > that correct?

> >

> > What does a top-down k surge feel like? Is it as fierce as the

> > bottom-up one? I have often felt I was receiving energies from

> above

> > during meditation (usually unconditional love, but also bliss and

> > light). This put me in an ecstatic trance state, but did not shake

> me

> > like the crown-induced bottom up (or lateral) K surges I

> occasionally

> > get. Would that bliss pouring in from above be a top-down surge, or

> > just a manifestation of Shiva happily merging with Shakti?

> >

> > Cheers

> >

> > Sel

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Selena,

 

Thank you for sharing Very interesting.So I am a *Reiki person*

then I am only joking ;)Yes,I know exactly what you mean

I am not sure of Usui one,never been attuned on it thought. In fact

I dont like using symbols anyway

For me healing comes from heart and I just follow/let the flow

running (if that makes sense).

Yes I know what you mean by *self centered* healers...I have seen

many of them out there,but we all learn and eventually change

And yes I agree about siddhis being an *impediment* to a true

spiritual awakening too.

Thanks again.

 

Namaste

A.

 

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> Thanks, Sarceto. By " reiki people " I mean people who have received

and

> given reiki attunements. Hey, I am one of 'em reiki people too ;-)

>

> Don't know if you or Chris will agree with me, but I have a hunch

that

> reiki attunements are partial shaktipats that activate Shiva

energies

> and pre-K energies. If this is true, " reiki " is old wine in new

> bottles. What is truly new in the system invented by Mr. Usui is

that

> the attunement selects certain chakras and nadis while leaving out

> others, thus making the process of channeling energy more

manageable

> for most people (not everyone can handle a full-fledged kundalini

> activation, right?). This would also explain why sometimes

attunements

> cause an unintended K surge--the energies at work are fundamentally

> the same, and they will do their own thing, especially if the

> recipient is ready.

>

> After all, healing through the laying-on of hands is one of the

> siddhis that true yogis ordinarily achieve. The difference is

that, in

> yoga, siddhis are regarded as a potential impediment to true

spiritual

> awakening (too much ego involved!). In reiki, obtaining the siddhi

of

> healing becomes the only pursuit, and awakening is not an explicit

> goal at all--if at all, it's a side effect that may or may not

kick in.

>

> Thanks for bearing with me. I am kinda thinking out loud here,

trying

> to make sense of things.

>

> Sel

>

>

> , " sarceto "

> <sarceto@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Selena,

> >

> > Interesting post. I am not sure what you call *Reiki people*

> > When I got my first attunement (in 2002) it was Kundalini Reiki

and

> > it started from bottom-upwards( Kundalini Reiki only *awakens*

the

> > Kundalini fire not the core,nothing more ).

> > I want to share what has happened to me couple of months back...

> > During meditations I felt the energy coming down my crown (I

didn't

> > do anything intentially) and it was pleasant but strong...was

just

> > happening on its own.I could feel *phisically* my cranium

stretching

> > and that made me open my mouth automatically to let the energy

come

> > down easily.When the energy reached base chakra then the heat

> > started climing up and expanding my body...a lot of sweating and

hot

> > sensations were happening...and then it stopped on its own.This

> > happened on its own,not that strong the first time but the

second

> > and 3rd time I was advised to start alternate breathing

left/right

> > nostril and vice versa to balance Ida and Pingala and was good

> > because this did balance me and let me get the energy going.

> > Not sure if that helps,just thought to share

> >

> > Namaste

> > A.

> >

> > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

1 , " selena230 "

> > <selena230@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This is a topic I am very, very interested in, and I have a

couple

> > of

> > > questions for discussion:

> > >

> > > My first full-fledged K surge two years ago followed a reiki

> > > attunement. However, it didn't feel like a top-down surge.

Rather,

> > it

> > > was a lateral move--I literally saw the prana sparks around my

body

> > > converge into the sushumna and give way to the K flow. Later

on, I

> > > learned that a kundalini jolt can also be brought about by the

ida

> > and

> > > the pingala merging in the sushumna. So, there is a third

possible

> > > scenario, yes? And not all reiki-attuned people necessarily

get

> > their

> > > brain fried when they have their first K surge, right?

> > >

> > > I am asking because my former reiki master wants to receive

> > shaktipat.

> > > Even though he involuntarily caused my first K surge, he is

not K

> > > active himself. I just want to know how safe it is going to be

for

> > him.

> > >

> > > Can reiki people balance their energetic system by working

their

> > lower

> > > chakras?

> > >

> > > Also, something else that I noticed is that the crown chakra

(and

> > the

> > > 8th chakra, too?) exerts an incredible attraction on the K.

Working

> > > those areas seems to be very effective at pulling up the K

from the

> > > tailbone and even the feet. I have seen that in myself and

others.

> > > This wouldn't be a top-down K surge, though, would it? I

reckon

> > that

> > > this power of the 7th chakra is why, in yoga, people are told

to

> > leave

> > > the crown alone when they start meditating. I suspect that all

the

> > > entity problems I had when I was younger were due to my

tampering

> > with

> > > my crown chakra in my do-it-yourself kundalini-awakening

efforts.

> > Is

> > > that correct?

> > >

> > > What does a top-down k surge feel like? Is it as fierce as the

> > > bottom-up one? I have often felt I was receiving energies from

> > above

> > > during meditation (usually unconditional love, but also bliss

and

> > > light). This put me in an ecstatic trance state, but did not

shake

> > me

> > > like the crown-induced bottom up (or lateral) K surges I

> > occasionally

> > > get. Would that bliss pouring in from above be a top-down

surge, or

> > > just a manifestation of Shiva happily merging with Shakti?

> > >

> > > Cheers

> > >

> > > Sel

> > >

> >

>