Touched - -Lisa

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Please see below Lisa for some feedback - lol

 

lisa dermenof <lisadermenof wrote: Yes I will accept it and

am loving this process, it is like the old me

is dying and a new one is being born. As Robert explained his personal

experience of the Kundalini Awakening, I was left in awe. Over a month

ago, I was sitting at my computer and immediately I had an intense pain

from the base of my spine, I believe the Perennial area (sp?). This was a

pain that was unique, as I know what labor pains and BM pains are like

all too well. I was in so much pain, I could barely stand up. Tears and

curses screamed from me. This lasted only a few minutes as I felt the

need to go to the ladies room just in case.

As Robert had explained it, when the Kundalini awakens and begins to

move up, the bowels lose complete control and you'll end up with a

'mess' LOL.

@@ Well I do wish Robert Bruce well and though I am not familiar with his

books or formulas, I honor him for expanding the populations awareness of the

Kundalini. Bowel incontinence has not been a hallmark for the Kundalini in my

experience. A stammering of the rectum ( kegel muscle quivering) which could

have issue with the apana or downward energy yes I have had and seen this in

others or genital fluidic ascension ( genital fluids being circulated into the

spine and brain) yes I have had this as well and do. Diarrhea releases have

occurred. Is this what you and he are talking about? Cramping and spasming of

the GI muscles will sometimes occur and this can be painful at first then it

will calm. Also excess gas and a very sensitive rectum is also common. Kidney

enlargement and hyper stimulation and activity from the adrenals is also a part

of the beginning scenario. The feeling of a ball or an egg of energy starting

at the base (typically) and moving up the spine or

lodging in the spine at specific points can be experienced. Hope this is

helpful to you Lisa @@

 

 

This is exactly what happened. I thought I was dying for sure, like

someone stabbing me with a sword.

I was told that my Kundalini was moving very slowly, like a millimeter

at a time. This movement is rare he said but the safest.

 

 

@@ As I continue to read I can see that i am going to go in another direction

than Robert Bruce. I do not wish my experience and opinion to cast an aspersion

towards him as I feel he is a good person and doing his best. So with that

being said, here goes.

I do not feel your K is moving

incrementally or feel that slow moving K is a rare condition. In as much as the

Kundalini is rare to begin with, not enough information exists with regard to

the activation process of people and the speeds of energetic infusion. This has

not been quantified as of this date, and most likely will not be, especially

not with in the parameters of the Western populations experience with the K. I

say this because unlike the Hindu and some of the Zen and Buddhist examples

meditation and yoga have been a big part of the preparation, not so in the

Americas, Australia (European) and Europe.

If he just looked at you and then said that

these things are occurring within your body, well, I cannot contradict him. He

is a person who has stated that he has had an activation and he looked at you

and made statements that cannot be proven one way or another. And I am even

worse as I will look at you from where I am now and make statements with regard

to what I see and feel about your Kundalini Lisa...... so...... you will have to

discern for yourself lol. @@

 

 

It is at my

solar plexus area, and I felt this area vividly when doing the energy work.

 

@@ OK @@

 

When I came home, the children were arguing with each other and yelling

and sending my calmness in the trash. I shouted 'stop!' and the kitchen

light turned off! I flicked it back on and my daughter asked who turned

it off... lol I guess you had to be there!

I would love some feedback chris

 

@@ Electrical problems such as lights coming on and going off are common and the

computers really can take a beating. I just get real patient and realize that

it is just one of the manifestations and then re-write the entire mail or

whatever it is. Cars and streetlights really anything that uses electricity will

be affected. Hope this helped - @@

 

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Lisa,

I have spent some time with Robert Bruce in the past three years. I

was at his workshop two weeks ago here in Helena, MT. And for a short

time at the last two. I had no idea why I went, just that I knew I

was supposed to go. I am not at all alighned with his ideas of demons

and such. Please take what he has to say with a big grain of salt. I

do respect that he takes a lot of time to think about these matters

and gets others to think about them. However, he is more of a mad

scientist (he will admit to this also) then a master. Much of what he

says is either conjecture on his part or projection of his own ego

structure. There are some good points that he makes but they must be

ferreted out. Trust your own experience and the words from Chrism

before those of Robet Bruce. His energy system is interesting and can

activate parts of the body, no doubt. But it doesn't seem that he has

a clue as to what he is really up to.

 

Sorry about being so blunt. Maybe this is why I was guided to be

there at his workshop. Very interesting group of people were drawn to

him. Many were very troubled and seemed to get some help from either

him or the others attending.

 

Blessings

Sam

 

, chrism

<> wrote:

>

> Please see below Lisa for some feedback - lol

>

> lisa dermenof <lisadermenof wrote: Yes I will accept

it and am loving this process, it is like the old me

> is dying and a new one is being born. As Robert explained his

personal

> experience of the Kundalini Awakening, I was left in awe. Over a

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sam. I will agree with you about the demon topics of the

workshop. Since I lack

any experience or knowledge of them or the similar, I can't say that I

or he is right or wrong.

He did say that this is his view of the matter and his opinion. I was

interested in the energy work

and the Kundalini discussions. Plus I got to meet other people and the

workshop was 15 miles from my

house I'm waiting for chrism to have a workshop :-)

Thanks

Lisa