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I didn't make up the recipe spellings -- just typed them up " as

is " . LOL! I think the author's point was just that this is sort of

like " cheese " , but it's really not, so not to confuse the people who

don't want " real cheese " (and might bypass the recipe) or to give a

false impression of what the recipe is, she decided to call it " cheeze "

or whatever. Only guessing. . ..

 

Karen

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" M. Bracy " wrote:

 

> " M. Bracy " <mbracy

>

> As if " cheez " weren't bad enough, now you're using " kreem " too?

> This is a bit much. Does anyone actually think this is cute or

> funny?

>

> Just wondering.

>

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An interesting point on tagging recipes. I'll have to consider that for my

heuuuuuuge MC collections!

 

As far as typing " carcass " ? IMHO, I think that to some, that would be less

offensive than actually typing Chicken or Beef! Almost a validation of

their feelings. So....

 

What we've learned here? <LOL> Once again, to each his own.

I still think that stuff is too cutsey. But that's my (and several others

here) opinion!

Christine

 

 

 

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I must be the minority in my way of thinking, but here's my own $.02 - I hope it

helps clarify the use of these " un-fun spellings " ..

 

I like the different spellings - I never found them " cutesy " , just useful. Not

all recipes come out the same if one simply omits the ingredients or substitutes

them (especially recipes that call for cheese or eggs). " Cheez " or " Cheeze " has

been very

helpful for me when it comes to saving or deleting recipes...(as well as

" Creem " / " Kreem " , etc..) Also, many vegan cookbooks use these terms, they aren't

simply used for ones attempt at being funny.

 

I will admit I have also typed " m**t " on occasion. I thought typing carcass

would be a bit much for some to handle. And yes, I do " have a life " - a very

happy, healthy one. ;D

 

GV

 

 

> " Christine F. Muehling " <CF_Muehling

 

I don't see much point in this: M**t for meat, or ch*cken for chicken.

That's just dumb.

If someone's offended by just those words, they need to really get a life.

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" M. Bracy " <mbracy

 

As if " cheez " weren't bad enough, now you're using " kreem " too?

This is a bit much. Does anyone actually think this is cute or

funny?

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I agree with Karen and Christine. Sometimes we are un-fun. Actually the

rest of the world thinks that we are un-fun. But, anyway, I am a purist

and like my recipes exactly as they were printed in the magazine or book

they came from--which includes using the words " chicken broth. " I use a

vegetarian " chicken " broth that I buy at Whole Foods for such an item.

But, now, I am getting more sensitive to un-fun folks and delete the word

chicken and just use the word broth.

 

Kathleen

 

At 01:33 PM 2/10/00 -0500, Karen Sonnessa wrote:

> " Karen Sonnessa " <ksonness

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>My sentiments exactly, Christine. And I feel the same way about recipes

>with chicken broth.

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You know, Kathleen, I am a purist, too, and like my information just as

published.

People make typos, and it's much easier to figure out if it's as close to

out-of-the-box as possible. When someone posts a redoux recipe, I love it

when like RisaG, she posts the recipe, THEN what she's done to it. I'm a

stickler for copyright information, too, and like to include that in my

recipes.

 

Go Vegan, though, had a good point for recipe titles, for those of us who

maintain mixed recipe collections. Using " Cheez " in a title could flag me

that I need to pick something up from my health food store. I'm going to

consider this, as a matter of fact. I won't post that way, but I might

wiggle with it at home.

 

I do try to be sensitive to the fact that I prefer veggie dining, and have

joined veggie lists. Being careful to change things to your example of

" broth " is something we should do. But for goodness sake, do we need

" W*rch*st*rsh*r* sauce? <LOL> I think n*t.

 

Christine

 

 

 

 

 

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Here's something to think about:

 

The only problem I have with recipes that call for " chicken broth " (or

whatever) is that people who are not familiar with vegetarian diets may think

that it's okay to include *real* chicken broth (or whatever) in a recipe for a

vegetarian.

 

Karen

List Owner

 

 

 

 

 

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Karen Sonnessa

CF_Muehling ; Veg-Recipes

Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:33 PM

Re: Re: un-fun spellings

 

 

" Karen Sonnessa " <ksonness

 

My sentiments exactly, Christine. And I feel the same way about recipes

with chicken broth. I hope people assume that if a recipe is posted with

chicken broth, they can substitute imitation chicken broth or vegetable

broth.

>

> So at least when someone's being cutsey with spelling, no one's going to

> waste time and bandwidth writing about animal products in Worcestershire

> sauce, when chances are pretty darned good that person submitting the

recipe

> meant VEGGIE Worcestershire sauce in the first place.

>

> I don't see much point in this: M**t for meat, or ch*cken for chicken.

> That's just dumb.

> If someone's offended by just those words, they need to really get a life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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No, you have a point.

That's why I think it's also a good idea to modify things for this specific

list. After all, it's a rule and we knew it when we joined.

I think it's more the hoopla people make over Worcestershire, for example.

For goodness sake, use VEGGIE Worcestershire! It was more the cutesy

spellings that prompted this discussion, than wanting to use disallowed

ingredients.

 

Christine

 

 

 

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I'm glad that Christine mentioned that I not only post the recipe but

what I do with it. I always make my notes and let everyone know what I

do with it.

 

I find the spellings very helpful. It lets me know it is a vegan or

vegetarian recipe. Also flags necessary items that I may not have.

 

So keep posting the recipes with Cheez as a spelling. Doesn't bother me

one bit. If the author spelled it that way then I keep it that way.

 

RisaG

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 " Karen C. Greenlee " wrote:

 

> The only problem I have with recipes that call for " chicken broth " (or

> whatever) is that people who are not familiar with vegetarian diets

> may think that it's okay to include *real* chicken broth (or whatever)

> in a recipe for a vegetarian.

 

Thanks for pointing this out, Karen — many people have this perception.

 

There are also people who eat fish (and even chicken) who like to call

themselves vegetarians, which makes it confusing for well-meaning people

who want to accommodate a vegetarian guest or relative. They may end up

serving something totally inappropriate, much to the discomfort of all

concerned. Most vegetarians won't have any problem with substitutions,

but lots of people on these lists are just starting out in veg*ism or

are non-veg, so it's helpful to define the terms, especially when

posting a recipe (insert obligatory IMO here).

 

Nancy

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