Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 The quantities given here should make about 2 1/2 pounds finished seitan. I often use 100% unbleached flour when I make it, since the bran & germ are washed out anyway. If you like, however, you can collect the bran/germ by pouring the washing water through a strainer. - NB * Exported from MasterCook Buster * Peter Berley's Seitan Recipe By : Peter Berley Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time : Categories : Analog Vegan Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 2 pounds organic unbleached white flour 2 pounds organic whole wheat bread flour 6 cups cold water ***STOCK*** 1 pound onion -- quartered 2 1/2 carrots -- halved lengthwise 2 stalks celery -- including leaves, -- halved 4 cloves garlic -- halved 8 coins ginger 2 sprigs fresh thyme 2 bay leaves 12 peppercorns 3/4 cup tamari or natural soy sauce 4 quarts -- water In a large bowl combine flour and water and form into a ball. Place dough on a counter and knead about 150 strokes, until the dough is smooth and elastic. Put the dough back in the mixing bowl to cover with warm water. Let the dough rest for 30 minutes while you make the stock. In an eighteen quart stock pot, combine all ingredients for the stock and bring to a boil. Lower the flame to a simmer, while you make the gluten. To make the gluten: Place dough in a colander, inside the mixing bowl. Put the bowl containing the colander and dough into the sink and fill with cold tap water. Knead the dough for five minutes and drain. Repeat this procedure two more times. Fill bowl with hot water and repeat five minutes more, pulling and kneading the dough until the water becomes almost clear. Finally, rinse in cold water for an additional two minutes. What you are left with is the glutinous part (the protein) of wheat; all of the starch and 90% of the bran will have been washed away. Divide the gluten into two equal sized balls and simmer in the stock for 2 1/2 - 3 hours. Add water from time to time to keep gluten submerged. Strain the stock and use for soup or sauce. Seitan is now ready to use. Refrigerate or freeze. From Chef Du Jour with Chef Peter Berley - show# DJ9208 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 I am wondering if you can buy seitan at a natural food store. I've been to a few and couldn't find it. I've never eaten seitan before, so I'm weary of spending all that time making it ( if I can actually succeed ) since I might not like it to begin with............ Manon > > Nancy B [sMTP:merit_ra] > Wednesday, March 15, 2000 4:49 AM > Veg-Recipes > Vegan: Seitan > > Nancy B <merit_ra > > The quantities given here should make about 2 1/2 pounds finished seitan. > I > often use 100% unbleached flour when I make it, since the bran & germ are > washed out anyway. If you like, however, you can collect the bran/germ by > > pouring the washing water through a strainer. - NB > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 I like gluten or seitan as you call it. I have seen it in Asian stores. It is in a tub covered with water and comes in several sizes. You can also find gluten in cans usually with some sort of flavoring. I have a cookbook called " How to make all the meat you eat out of wheat " by Nina and Michael Shandler that I bought some time ago. Have not tried making my own gluten yet. The authors do not throw away the residue but instead give a recipe for making crackers or cereal from the bran, starch and germ. Barbara At 07:22 AM 3/15/00 -0400, Cassista, Manon wrote: > " Cassista, Manon " <CassistaM > >I am wondering if you can buy seitan at a natural food store. I've been to >a few and couldn't find it. I've never eaten seitan before, so I'm weary of >spending all that time making it ( if I can actually succeed ) since I might >not like it to begin with............ > >Manon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 At 07:22 3/15/00 -0400, Cassista, Manon wrote: >I am wondering if you can buy seitan at a natural food store. I've been to >a few and couldn't find it. I've never eaten seitan before, so I'm weary of >spending all that time making it ( if I can actually succeed ) since I might >not like it to begin with.... Good point, although I'm surprised you can't find it at natural foods stores. Have you checked their refrigerated section? As another poster suggested, you can find it at Asian stores, and generally at less cost. It is usually called " gluten " . " Seitan " is a Japanese word, and you would not necessarily be understood if you asked for it by that name. After making a pit stop to our pantry, I see we have some made by Kimlan. My husband loves this stuff. It is sold in glass jars, plain, with peanuts, or mushrooms. Another brand, Hsin Tung Yang, is sold in cans and labelled " Fried Gluten Curry Mock Chicken Meat " and " Vegetarian Mock Duck Meat " respectively. There are many other varieties/brands. <rant> Apropos of the mention of " Mock Meat " , you may, on occasion, encounter some benighted soul who considers its consumption a violation of the vegetarian ethic because it tastes similar to meat! Go figure. The point is, it is the proteinacous part of *wheat* (not meat) and healthful & tasty to boot. </rant>. I hope you find and enjoy it. Best, NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2000 Report Share Posted March 16, 2000 Manon: Yes, you should be able to find seitan at a natural foods store. It comes in different flavors & varieties -- Asian flavored, Italian, smoked, etc. It is usually sold in the refrigerated section in shrink wrap. Also, I think it's a Fantastic Foods brand, that you can buy as a boxed mix to make up yourself. You probably should try it first. I like it " okay " , but don't particulary care for the " squeaky " texture. ha ha! One of those things you have to get used to, I guess. Karen " Cassista, Manon " wrote: > " Cassista, Manon " <CassistaM > > I am wondering if you can buy seitan at a natural food store. I've been > to > a few and couldn't find it. I've never eaten seitan before, so I'm weary > of > spending all that time making it ( if I can actually succeed ) since I > might > not like it to begin with............ > > Manon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2000 Report Share Posted March 17, 2000 > You probably should try it first. I like it " okay " , but don't > particulary care for the " squeaky " texture. ha ha! LOL! I could never get used to that stuff! Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2000 Report Share Posted March 17, 2000 Actually seitan is a meat substitute. I have made it from gluten flour, a time consuming process. I find that most meat substitutes don't taste like meat to begin with, so they don't satisfy any carnivores you may have for dinner. That being said, I prefer to eat vegetarian food that tastes, well vegetarian. Clean, crisp & healthy. I frequently freeze, thaw & crumble tofu for burger type dishes like tacos. It's better for you anyway. t. > " Karen Sonnessa " <ksonness > Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:04:57 -0500 > " Karen C. Greenlee " <greenlee > Cc: <Veg-Recipes > > Re: Vegan: Seitan > >> You probably should try it first. I like it " okay " , but don't >> particulary care for the " squeaky " texture. ha ha! > > LOL! I could never get used to that stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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