Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Hi Everyone, Donna has been doing so much work on this list. I thought I will contribute my two bits worth. I think even by changing the options on Goravani, there are still some differences on the way the AV tables for this system are calculated. So I have taken the values from lesson 1 and have created a worksheet. This is enclosed. All that is required to be done is to put the house in which each planet resides. The worksheet does the rest. This has been created in Excel 2000. If anyone has any trouble opening it, or if someone points out some error in it, I would correct it and then put it in the files section, if useful. Regards Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear Sanjay - > Donna has been doing so much work on this list. I thought I will contribute > my two bits worth. > Why thank-you Sanjay! That's very kind. . . I'm sure this worksheet will come in very handy for the rest of us. Now all we have to do is put in the proper house number under the HOUSE heading and everything will automatically register correctly for Krushna's ayanamsha? As you love to do calculations and worksheets so much, how about doing Krushna's Master worksheet so that it will automatically tally up the results in the proper sub columns as people enter the information into it? I'm trying to do it in the WORD 2000 format, but the way it's formatted right now, it's a little tricky to get the proper cell referencing for House A, House B and House C as they're all part of row 2, if you know what I mean. Anyway, since I know you love a good challenge, let's see what you can come up with at your end on WORD 2000, not EXCEL. (only as a last resort for that because I like this worksheet the way it is.) I'll work on it from this end in between translations. . . Thanks again Sanjay! Your help is always appreciated! ) Donna Thanks - Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear Swee - > I knew someone on this list will come up with the worksheet > sooner or later ........ As it is , Donna is on overload ! Hmmm, you better believe it! ) Still, I think the worksheet you're referring to is Krushna's Master Worksheet. Sanjay's is an Ashtakavarga worksheet. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Dear Donna, You must be an expert on child psychology and motivation. I am not used to doing much formatting in Word and I eventually want to try out linking the AV values to Master Krushna's worksheets for all house matters. Incidentally, you only have to enter the houses in the sheet entitled " basic " . The other sheets pick this up. I would still like some feedback on the accuracy as I might have made some silly mistakes. While I am writing this note, let me express my appreciation of the great work you are doing. As far as the Master is concerned, he is surely the master as I have tried his system on a few charts and it gives eerily accurate results. Regards Sanjay - <DQuinn12 Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:50 AM Re: Ashtakvarg Calculation > > Dear Sanjay - > > > Donna has been doing so much work on this list. I thought I will contribute > > my two bits worth. > > > > Why thank-you Sanjay! That's very kind. . . I'm sure this worksheet will come > in very handy for the rest of us. Now all we have to do is put in the proper > house number under the HOUSE heading and everything will automatically > register correctly for Krushna's ayanamsha? > > As you love to do calculations and worksheets so much, how about doing > Krushna's Master worksheet so that it will automatically tally up the results > in the proper sub columns as people enter the information into it? I'm trying > to do it in the WORD 2000 format, but the way it's formatted right now, it's > a little tricky to get the proper cell referencing for House A, House B and > House C as they're all part of row 2, if you know what I mean. Anyway, since > I know you love a good challenge, let's see what you can come up with at your > end on WORD 2000, not EXCEL. (only as a last resort for that because I like > this worksheet the way it is.) I'll work on it from this end in between > translations. . . > > Thanks again Sanjay! Your help is always appreciated! ) > > Donna > > Thanks - > Donna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Dear Sanjay - > I would still like some feedback on the accuracy as I might have made some > silly mistakes. OK. . . . I tried putting in the house values for the planets under the BASIC tab and then entering them under the HOUSE heading. Nothing unfortunately matches up in the subsequent tables, so I'm at a loss as to what to tell you. The planets DO however change to the proper house values in all the other tabs. It's just that the AV values don't link up at all. What am I doing wrong here? > While I am writing this note, let me express my appreciation of the great work you are doing. Thanks, Sanjay. I appreciate your appreciation! ) > As far as the Master is concerned, he is surely the master as I have tried his system on a few charts and it gives eerily accurate results. Krushna also did my chart (which has been rectified BTW) and he came within 2 months of guessing my marriage date to my 1st husband plus the year that I met my current husband! So I'm sure that if I tweaked the chart by a few minutes, he would've been spot on. This system does allow you to view the chart from a different slice of perspective and in that regard seems to be very accurate so far. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Dear Sanjay and group - I will re-word Krushna's explanantion about the 3rd and 11th lord so that hopefully it will be a little more understandable. This is true as Sanjay had concluded from previous emails between Krushna and Sandy: It is true that a lord of the 3rd or 11th, even if it has high bindus, will NOT contribute negative points if it is aspecting the Main Upachaya houses. 1. Does this also apply to planets in the 3rd and 11th with more than 4 bindus if they happen to aspect the main Upachaya? Yes, except in a special case where Mars is located in the 4th house (HOUSE 'D') with 5 points. At the same time it will aspect the 7th and the 11th house by its 4th and 8th aspect from HOUSE 'D'. In this case, it gains the extra 5 points because it is located in HOUSE 'D', but it then will lose 10 points due to its aspects on the 7th (HOUSE B) and the 11th (HOUSE C) 2. In your worksheet, there is one row for the aspects to House A, B and C. In this, the negative influences of 3rd and 11th rulers is not counted. What about Row 16 when these happen to aspect other planets. Do they contribute negative points in this case or not? I'm presuming you're talking about Row 10 where it says " Name the planets aspecting Houses A, B or C. Since the negative effect in not counted, how could they contribute negative points? Hope this helps - Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Sanjay, The worksheet look very good but could you tell me how I can download it to my computer. When I click on the attachment it just downloads it to the screen. When I had a look at it on the screen it froze after a short while - I don't know why but as I wamted to download it altogether I didn't bother to look at it ay more. Of course it isnot possible just to copy the screen as this is only a minor aprt of the whole worksheet. I don't know whether or not you have put a downloadable file for it in the files I'll have a look after writing this letter. Peter -- In , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg@d...> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Donna has been doing so much work on this list. I thought I will contribute my two bits worth. > > I think even by changing the options on Goravani, there are still some differences on the way the AV tables for this system are calculated. So I have taken the values from lesson 1 and have created a worksheet. This is enclosed. All that is required to be done is to put the house in which each planet resides. The worksheet does the rest. > > This has been created in Excel 2000. If anyone has any trouble opening it, or if someone points out some error in it, I would correct it and then put it in the files section, if useful. > > Regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Dear Donna and Group, I think there is some confusion. Please see my comments below. I am basing these comments on a clarification received from Krushnaji. Regards - <DQuinn12 Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:45 AM Re: Ashtakvarg Calculation > > Dear Sanjay and group - > > I will re-word Krushna's explanantion about the 3rd and 11th lord so that > hopefully it will be a little more understandable. > > This is true as Sanjay had concluded from previous emails between Krushna > and Sandy: > > It is true that a lord of the 3rd or 11th, even if it has high bindus, will > NOT contribute negative points if it is aspecting the Main Upachaya houses. > > > 1. Does this also apply to planets in the 3rd and 11th with more than 4 > bindus if they happen to aspect the main Upachaya? > > Yes, except in a special case where Mars is located in the 4th house (HOUSE > 'D') with 5 points. At the same time it will aspect the 7th and the 11th > house by its 4th and 8th aspect from HOUSE 'D'. In this case, it gains the > extra 5 points because it is located in HOUSE 'D', but it then will lose 10 > points due to its aspects on the 7th (HOUSE B) and the 11th (HOUSE C) THIS IS SLIGHTLY CONFUSING. THE ANSWER THAT I HAVE IS THAT PLANETS THAT HAVE MORE THAN 4 POINTS HAVE TO BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS WHEN THEY ASPECT THE MAIN UPACHAYA STHANS(US). THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN GIVE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE POINTS. > > 2. In your worksheet, there is one row for the aspects to House A, B and C. > In this, the negative influences of 3rd and 11th rulers is not counted. What > about Row 16 when these happen to aspect other planets. Do they contribute > negative points in this case or not? > > I'm presuming you're talking about Row 10 where it says " Name the planets > aspecting Houses A, B or C. Since the negative effect in not counted, how > could they contribute negative points? THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS CONSIDERED. ONE IS TO THE MAIN US. THE SECOND IS TO ALL THE PLANETS IN THE CHART, IF THESE HAPPEN TO BE ASPECTED. THESE ARE MENTIONED IN ROW 16. ACCORDING TO THE EXPLANATION RECEIVED BY ME. TEH LORDS OF HOUSE D AN E, FOR A SPECIFIC EVENT, DO NOT CONTRIBUTE NEGATIVE BINDUS EVEN TO OTHER PLANETS IF THEY ASPECT THOSE, NOT JUST TO THE MAIN US. I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. > > Hope this helps - > Donna > Thanks for the help Donna. I think this debate helps clarify the system. You know, one bindu can change the total situation as far as a planet is concerned. I am a little worried about that. Regards Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 Dear Sanjay - > THIS IS SLIGHTLY CONFUSING. THE ANSWER THAT I HAVE IS THAT PLANETS THAT HAVE > MORE THAN 4 POINTS HAVE TO BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS WHEN THEY ASPECT THE > MAIN UPACHAYA STHANS(US). THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN GIVE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE > POINTS. > Yes, EXCEPT for the case with Mars with 5 points in the 4th house. . . > Thanks for the help Donna. I think this debate helps clarify the system. You know, one bindu can change the total situation as far as a planet is concerned. I am a little worried about that. Yes, this is true. I'll try to help when I can as I'm learning this sytem too as I go along and get just as confused as the rest of us do at various points. So every bit helps. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 Dear Donna, I think this is not an exception. This is just the normal situation for Mars in 4th for 7th house matters. Now if Mars with 5 points also happens to be the lord of 4th or 12th house, it would gain 5 points for ownership, 5 points for residence, and contribute no malefic points due to aspect. Is this understanding correct? Regards Sanjay - <DQuinn12 Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:08 AM Re:Ashtakvarg Calculation > > Dear Sanjay - > > > THIS IS SLIGHTLY CONFUSING. THE ANSWER THAT I HAVE IS THAT PLANETS THAT HAVE > > MORE THAN 4 POINTS HAVE TO BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS WHEN THEY ASPECT THE > > MAIN UPACHAYA STHANS(US). THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN GIVE NEGATIVE OR > POSITIVE > > POINTS. > > > > Yes, EXCEPT for the case with Mars with 5 points in the 4th house. . . > > > Thanks for the help Donna. I think this debate helps clarify the system. You > know, one bindu can change the total situation as far as a planet is > concerned. I am a little worried about that. > > Yes, this is true. I'll try to help when I can as I'm learning this sytem too > as I go along and get just as confused as the rest of us do at various > points. So every bit helps. > > Donna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 Dear Sanjay - > I think this is not an exception. This is just the normal situation for Mars > in 4th for 7th house matters. Now if Mars with 5 points also happens to be > the lord of 4th or 12th house, it would gain 5 points for ownership, 5 > points for residence, and contribute no malefic points due to aspect. Is > this understanding correct? Yes, he used Mars here precisely because of those conditions as I understand it. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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